Condemn Durkadurkiranistan II

[Reseda Island]

it has to be done, for obvious reasons.

[Sedgistan]

You could talk to TannerFrankLand about combining it with his condemnation from last time around, which was only thwarted by the original Durkadurkiranistan being deleted.

[Novaya Zemlja]

Since you didn't bother to actually write a proposal, I'll write one for you.

Condemn Durkadurkiranistan II

OBSERVING that Durkadurkiranistan II ejected 534 nations from The North Pacific,

REALIZING that this is nothing compared to his previous ejection spree of 1900 nations,

IGNORING the fact that this proposal violates Rule 4,

OVERLOOKING the crappiness of this proposal,

CONDEMNS Durkadurkiranistan II.

[Vocal Public]

Condemn him? Durkadurkiranistan II should be Commended.

He has ejected newly created nations, he is allowed by the Influence Rules to do that without any reason or cause. He heeds only enough influence, nothing more. Kroll began by Ban/jecting Regional Recruiters , for posting Legal Recruiting RMB posts, completely within the Influence rules.

Durkadurkiranistan II is rightfully using the influence rules to eject Newly Created nations without regard. He should be Commended for he accomplished his goals completely within the rules.

[Reseda Island]

You could talk to TannerFrankLand about combining it with his condemnation from last time around, which was only thwarted by the original Durkadurkiranistan being deleted.

I think I'll have to listen to you for once

[Unibot]

The Security Council,

INFORMING ministers, diplomats and envoys of the Security Council that on 2010 March 02, the delegate of the North Pacific, Durkadurkiranistan ejected an excess of @@@@ nations from his region,

ASSERTING that World Assembly Delegates have the right to use their power to eject nations from a region,

FURTHER ASSERTING that Delegates have the responsibility to use that power sparingly or otherwise exclusively for ejection targets that have been deemed to 'deserve' it for whatever reason,

OBSERVING Durkadurkiranistan’s term as delegate was coming to an end on 2010 March 02 and was to be replaced by New Kervoskia,

SHOCKED by Durkadurkiranistan’s ejection of @@@@ nations from The North Pacific, the largest mass ejection in NationStates history for the sake of a 'grand finale' according to the region's World Factbook Entry,

RECOGNIZING that the original Durkadurkiranistani threat to world peace was suppressed with secretariat influence -- this suppression established a false sense of security,

NOTING that on 2010 October 14, the Durkadurkiranistan regime reemerged and declared the creation of a North Pacific Provisional Authority in response to Flemingovia's recent success in the North Pacific Delegate Election (with 17 votes),

UNDERSTANDING that the Durkadurkiranistan regime has also imposed "Project Purge", where another mass ejection of approximatively @@@@ nations is projected,

FURTHER UNDERSTANDING that the North Pacific Provisional Authority does have commendable goals such as facilitating a larger, more open election in the near future (hence the name, "provisional" authority),

BELIEVING that a condemnation of Durkadurkiranistan would serve as..
(a) a deterrent for other delegates from spontaneously ejecting large masses of nations in "purges",
(b) a remonstration to any nefarious intentions that the North Pacific Provisional Authority may have,

HEREBY CONDEMNS the Durkadurkiranistan regime.

[A mean old man]

Durk is pretty damn hilarious. What he manages to get away with doesn't speak very highly of the organization of his region, though.

[Reseda Island]

Durk is pretty damn hilarious. What he manages to get away with doesn't speak very highly of the organization of his region, though.

and its corrupt that durk takes advantage of the situation.

[A mean old man]

Durk is pretty damn hilarious. What he manages to get away with doesn't speak very highly of the organization of his region, though.

and its corrupt that durk takes advantage of the situation.

Correct. Which means TNP is in dire need of governmental and social reform, under the guiding hand of an administration native to the feeders and which understands how to keep feeders secure and stable in the face of widespread opposition which wishes to abuse what the feeder has to offer it.

EDIT: Although, now that I look at it closer, it seems Durk's up to something much larger than the usual purge. This should prove to be very interesting. I'm going to have to look into this.

[Unibotian WA Mission]

EDIT: Although, now that I look at it closer, it seems Durk's up to something much larger than the usual purge. This should prove to be very interesting. I'm going to have to look into this.

Yep but the Old Guard is threatening his delegacy, he probably won't be able to hold the position for much longer. With the reform I think Durk intended on bringing forth, this is a sad thing.

[Ardchoille]

AMOM, Unibot, Reseda Island, you now have a draft proposal to discuss. Discuss it without the flamebait commentary.

[Kalibarr]

I'm sorry, but how exactly were Uni and AMOM flamebaiting?

Edit: not sure why there was a random "t" floating around

[Unibot]

Flamebait?

[Ardchoille]

Judgmental commentary on the attitudes and motives of another player tends to invite heated responses from the other player, or his supporters.

Condemnations are of necessity judgmental, but this is a drafting thread and the discussion should centre on adding to, taking from or redrafting the content of the proposal.

Unless documented corruption, the state of TNP's governance or the sadness or otherwise of its political situation are going to be written into the proposal, they should be discussed elsewhere.

[Unibot]

Unless documented corruption, the state of TNP's governance or the sadness or otherwise of its political situation are going to be written into the proposal, they should be discussed elsewhere.

NOTING that on 2010 October 14, the Durkadurkiranistan regime reemerged and declared the creation of a North Pacific Provisional Authority in response to Flemingovia's recent success in the North Pacific Delegate Election (with 17 votes),

[..]

FURTHER UNDERSTANDING that the North Pacific Provisional Authority does have commendable goals such as facilitating a larger, more open election in the near future (hence the name, "provisional" authority),

BELIEVING that a condemnation of Durkadurkiranistan would serve as..
(a) a deterrent for other delegates from spontaneously ejecting large masses of nations in "purges",
(b) a remonstration to any nefarious intentions that the North Pacific Provisional Authority may have,

[A mean old man]

Judgmental commentary on the attitudes and motives of another player tends to invite heated responses from the other player, or his supporters.

Condemnations are of necessity judgmental, but this is a drafting thread and the discussion should centre on adding to, taking from or redrafting the content of the proposal.

Unless documented corruption, the state of TNP's governance or the sadness or otherwise of its political situation are going to be written into the proposal, they should be discussed elsewhere.

I'm sorry, I thought that talking about whatever Durk was up to in TNP might actually have to do with supporting or opposing a condemnation of him based on whatever he was up to in TNP. But maybe I'm wrong.

[Unibot]

Judgmental commentary on the attitudes and motives of another player tends to invite heated responses from the other player, or his supporters.

Condemnations are of necessity judgmental, but this is a drafting thread and the discussion should centre on adding to, taking from or redrafting the content of the proposal.

Unless documented corruption, the state of TNP's governance or the sadness or otherwise of its political situation are going to be written into the proposal, they should be discussed elsewhere.

I'm sorry, I thought that talking about whatever Durk was up to in TNP might actually have to do with supporting or opposing a condemnation of him based on whatever he was up to in TNP. But maybe I'm wrong.

I think she meant more about me bringing up how Durk's actually got a good goal in mind and that it is sad that he probably won't be able to achieve those goals from opposition by the Old Guard. That could upset the Old Guard.

Edit: I did it again.. frig...

[A mean old man]

I'm sorry, I thought that talking about whatever Durk was up to in TNP might actually have to do with supporting or opposing a condemnation of him based on whatever he was up to in TNP. But maybe I'm wrong.

I think she meant more about me bringing up how Durk's actually got a good goal in mind and that it is sad that he probably won't be able to achieve those goals from opposition by the Old Guard. That could upset the Old Guard.

Edit: I did it again.. frig...

Hmph. Well, I'm going elsewhere to discuss the impact that Durk's coup could have on TNP's future and on the future of the feeders in general. Good night.

[Reseda Island]

In terms of either Draft, the nation name would have to be changed to fit his new stats as number 2.

[Mythasia]

Being one of those who was ejected by Durkadurkiranistan II I support the condemnation. The use of power in this way is clearly an abuse of such power. Keep in many of those being ejected are likely new to nationstate. Allowing such abuse only gives the impression that those new here are unwelcome.

[Whereisthatistan]

Being one of those who was ejected by Durkadurkiranistan II I support the condemnation. The use of power in this way is clearly an abuse of such power. Keep in many of those being ejected are likely new to nationstate. Allowing such abuse only gives the impression that those new here are unwelcome.

The person behind Durkadurkiranistan II would just consider this a badge of honor. Condemning The North Pacific for putting this jerk in power to remind us not to do it again might be a better idea.

[Blue Wolf II]

Well, The North Pacific didn't actually put him in power. He used an unendorsement campaign against Ermarian who was the elected Delegate at the time, lowering their endorsement count to something that a good endoswapper could overtake. Durka, being a good endoswapper, thus overtook Erm with ease.

So you really can't blame TNP for being couped by someone who wasn't voted into the seat in the first place and used trickery to get there.

[Unibot]

Well, The North Pacific didn't actually put him in power. He used an unendorsement campaign against Ermarian who was the elected Delegate at the time, lowering their endorsement count to something that a good endoswapper could overtake. Durka, being a good endoswapper, thus overtook Erm with ease.

Actually he needed to convince Dharma and I to send a couple of troops to get him the endorsement count he needed. After being throughly lied to about the platform that Dirt Durk was touting, we're not proud with our my decision to back him up.

[Eireann Fae]

I find it interesting that Durkadurkiranistan II himself supports this condemnation.

Approvals: 6 (Neo Nibu, Wilkshire, Malaysii, Demphor, Durkadurkiranistan II, -Apollo-)

[Unibot]

Durk likes to be recognized for being dictator, he probably would not like being recognized for being a manipulative scoundrel. He gives dictators in NS a bad name -- figuratively 'speaking', of course. Rule Four however exists to protect these scoundrels, so I don't see it as a viable option.