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Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

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Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Kopania » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:08 pm

Go to this thread to see why they are being condemned:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7249&p=238529#p238529

But here is the condemnation:
Appaled at the fact that Birkaine resorts to dirty economic tactics such as:

Secretly sending ships and other vessels to a nation filled with counterfeit money as a means to hyper inflate and bankrupt that nation.

This is a completely dirty and criminal act and this nation deserves to be condemned.

HEREBY condemns Birkaine and forbids any WA member nation from trading with them.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Belkaland » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:03 pm

The Principality of Belkaland, while not a part of the World Assemby, is appauled that The United Socialist States of Kopania is attempting to condemn a nation without hard taggible evidence that they are indeed behind this so called 'dirty economic tactics'.

A more plausible case is that the economy of the USSK is falling due to the bad choices made by Kopanian stockholders like every other economic depression. All you are trying to do is drag down a nation that was more successful than yours in both military & economical action and slander the good name of the Commonwealth of Birkaine.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Scarsaw » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:05 pm

The Federation of Scarsaw is against the condemnation and is sickened at this contribution to the amount of nations that have been suggested for condemnation lately, usually for little or no justified reason.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby The Emmerian Unions » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:09 pm

We demand proof of these allegations by Kopania, and would like to inform them that Condemnations cannot forbid WA nations from trading with whoever they want.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Sage Naumann » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:13 pm

Falsely accusing a friend of crimes against others is horrid. We demand evidence of these 'crimes'! We demand justice!

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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Greater Americania » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:16 pm

We support this proposal and have approved on the grounds that said nation has attacked our friend, the Reich of Comaack.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Kopania » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:44 pm

Here is your proof:
From the Comaackian CIA to Kopania
Commackian Soldiers have searched the mans home to find it deserted, as a Soldier was about to leave, he found a sheet of paper with the words
"Birkanian Contacts"
On the sheet it had the names of seven men. Over the next two hours, warrants for their arrests were given out and we captured and located 5 of the men on the sheet, all Birkanian Immigrants. On them we found fake identities, poison, illegal weapons, counterfeit money, and Military Uniforms for Comaack and Kopanian Militarys. Currently, they are being questioned. We searched their mouths for Pills and in two of them, found them. One Committed suicide.

and more:
Commackian Troops continued to search the house, looked through files and storage areas, only finding business papers. Commackian Soldiers soon began to use a device to search for radio signals. They were led to a wall and the soldiers began to cut through the wall. In the small room, there was a seat and several computers and radios, a very well hidden room. Inside was a deleted computer and a still functioning computer. From it, we managed to find several recordings with a man named Burke and the dead Spy. We tracked the Radio signal to Cipollograd.

In Cipollograd, we tracked the signal to 5th Ave and 82nd Street in Uptown. Commackian Soldiers surrounded the apartment and tracked it to room 560 on the 67th Floor. Inside we found a man watching a television report of a man who "died" at Boston International while he was packing his bags. The Soldier slowly opened the door and saw two plane tickets on a small table, reading "From Cipollograd to Birkaine", they looked into an open draw and saw several vials of poison, the same poison the man killed himself with, as well as a pistol and several grenades. Papers were all over the floor as the sound of a lit fire in the fireplace filled the air. The Smell of Burning paper also filled the air. The troops opened the door and darted into the room seeing the man stuffing underpants and Speedos into his bag. The Soldiers dove on top of the man, taking a vial out of his pants and a group of suicide pills and a gun. He was searched in his mouth for pills and none were found. We searched through his files and his name, William Burke Middleton. He was an immigrant from Birkaine. He was taken to Military HQ to be questioned.


And even more proof:
The man didn't want to say a thing at first. After all, he had been trained in interrogation techniques and how to resist them. The weapon he carried was a 9mm Beretta handgun, and the grenades were of Comaackian origin, acquired form the black market.

Gradually, the Comaackians discovered more. The papers burned were related to the dissasembling of the EMT-7 device from a main battle tank and the shipping of its pieces to Comaack trough a food processing company which served as a cache for the many parts of the device. However, the first papers to be burned were the ones related to the origin of the EMT-7, and the ones remaining documented the price of the shipping, as well as a load of schematics for the EMP generator written in russian. The man had used a fax to send them to O-14, and had kept the copies for himself, because he didn't want anybody in Comaack's postal office to look at such sensible information.

However, when pressured, the man swore he was from the Maghrib Liberation Front, a group of anti-Birkanian rebels operating in a Birkanian colony. This could be either the truth or a simple lie to throw the guilt to yet another group Birkaine hated.

The Interrogator entered the room for another dauntless interrogation of the quiet Birkanian Man. He sipped coffee and held a dish with about fifty doughnuts and several pitchers of water for the prisoner. The Interrogator wiped the Coffee off of his thick black Mustache. The Interrogator fair dark skin and had a deep Southern Accent. His Black hair and Fedora Hat were the most notable features. He sat down taking another sip and pulling out a cigar, lighting it. He offered one to the Prisoner, who accepted it. The Interrogator began

"If you are part of an Anti-Birkanian Group, why are you in Comaack with illegal documents and weapons?" he said. "We found a list of names on your working computer when we retrieved your Database. Over 12 contacts. We are arresting them and several are telling different stories, all related to Birkaine though."

"The Maghrib Liberation Front sent me here for purposes of underground recruiting and smuggling of weapons, since our organization heard that you have a pretty large weapons manufacturing sector specializing in nuclear-based technologies, so we guessed your nation would contribute to the Liberation Front greatly. As for the weapons... well... You can't expect me to come here unarmed, with the entire Komitet Birkainii Bezopasnosti behind me" He said, referring to the Birkanian equivalent of the KGB, before paused calmedly. "Seems the other members you arrested are not being discrete enough... well, I can only tell you they want to blame Birkaine on everything"


"Alright, why did we find Birkanian Flags and Commackian and Kopanian Military Uniforms. We also found some Kopanian Dollars similar to the Counterfeit ones causing inflation. Why do you have Kopanian materials in Comaack. We also found several direct recordings of you speaking with the Head of the Komitet Birkainii Bezopasnosti. We found objectives to contact Birkanian Spies and inform them of objectives. If you claim what you are doing, explain why you have EMP Parts identical to the parts that were fired in Boston." said the Interrogator taking off his white military gloves and put on a ring with a needle on it.


And from the Kopanian KGB:
The Kopanian KGB, notable for its tracking of its population had come onto a lead of an immigrant from Birkaine who lived in 9th Street in Budapest. They had gotten this lead when the man walked past a barcode scanner (for the people chips that are in them) and it turned out he had a fake chip emitting a false signal. The KGB surrounded the apartment. They were at the door and the "go" signal was relayed and they burst into the room from the door and all of the windows. They immediatly saw a man watching a soap opera and they pounced on him. His name was Georgy Yakov a Birkainian immigrant. He had papers with names on them as well as phone numbers and adresses. He also had the names of Communist Party members and their personal information. In the apartment also was over 2 billion counterfeit Socialist Dollars suspected to be from Birkaine. He had contacts of 9 people, all Kopanian citizens. The KGB throughout the night arrested all of those people and is currently interrogating them. Georgy Yakov is being interrogated as we speak and has revealed a plan to undermine the economy by injecting fake money into it and has also revealed in the plan the air strikes in the country side but has not revealed what country he or the contacts work for. But the man being a Birkainian immigrant President Ivanovich feels it is sustainable proof combined with Comaack's evidence that Birkaine is behind all of this. He will make a speech to the communist party later today.


Here is the proof
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Kopania's wars:
Al Hilal Terrorist crisis (died off)
Comaack Civil War (utter defeat)
Kopania Civil War (Victory)
2nd Greater Cyrodil War (Victory)
New Nicholas War (Victory, received nukes)
Kyrovnov War (Stretegic Retreat)

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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Belkaland » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:04 pm

Please take a look at the following evidence that you yourself provided:

The man didn't want to say a thing at first. After all, he had been trained in interrogation techniques and how to resist them. The weapon he carried was a 9mm Beretta handgun, and the grenades were of Comaackian origin, acquired form the black market.

Gradually, the Comaackians discovered more. The papers burned were related to the dissasembling of the EMT-7 device from a main battle tank and the shipping of its pieces to Comaack trough a food processing company which served as a cache for the many parts of the device. However, the first papers to be burned were the ones related to the origin of the EMT-7, and the ones remaining documented the price of the shipping, as well as a load of schematics for the EMP generator written in russian. The man had used a fax to send them to O-14, and had kept the copies for himself, because he didn't want anybody in Comaack's postal office to look at such sensible information.

However, when pressured, the man swore he was from the Maghrib Liberation Front, a group of anti-Birkanian rebels operating in a Birkanian colony. This could be either the truth or a simple lie to throw the guilt to yet another group Birkaine hated.



"The Maghrib Liberation Front sent me here for purposes of underground recruiting and smuggling of weapons, since our organization heard that you have a pretty large weapons manufacturing sector specializing in nuclear-based technologies, so we guessed your nation would contribute to the Liberation Front greatly. As for the weapons... well... You can't expect me to come here unarmed, with the entire Komitet Birkainii Bezopasnosti behind me" He said, referring to the Birkanian equivalent of the KGB, before paused calmedly. "Seems the other members you arrested are not being discrete enough... well, I can only tell you they want to blame Birkaine on everything"


These transcripts shows that a rogue terrorist group bent on the destruction of Birkaine known as the Maghrib Liberation Front is responsible. By playing your nation against Birkaine, they are using you to accomplish thier goals. By using Birkainian weapons bought off the black market, they are implicating Birkaine as the source of your troubles.

I fear for your nation, as we can clearly see, these people will go to extreme lenght to create a war between the USSK & Birkaine. And given how easy it is in this day & age, it is likely they have acquired a nuclear weapon with the intent to use it on the USSK, or possibly Birkaine to cause Birkaine to look at the USSK as the culprit and given Birkaine's stance on nulcear attacks on their territory & forces, a nuclear war could break out.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Kopania » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:23 am

And what about the man that WE caught? He is giving up this whole master plan but is not saying who is in charge of it. In addition if Birkaine is not behind this then he must do something to crush these terrorists.
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Al Hilal Terrorist crisis (died off)
Comaack Civil War (utter defeat)
Kopania Civil War (Victory)
2nd Greater Cyrodil War (Victory)
New Nicholas War (Victory, received nukes)
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:06 am

Kopania wrote:HEREBY condemns Birkaine and forbids any WA member nation from trading with them.


Illegal due to game mechanics and introducing extra legislation: As it currently stands all you can do is condemn a nation.
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:14 am

(Maybe this thread should be moved to one of the main 'RP' forums? ;))
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Re: Condemnation: Condemn Birkaine

Postby The Emmerian Unions » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:10 pm

Bears Armed wrote:(Maybe this thread should be moved to one of the main 'RP' forums? ;))


[More like locked.]
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