Draft: Liberate France

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I wish to announce a Ryberg-driven draft on the liberation of many Macedon-invaded regions of the next few months, which will, after the liberation of Belgium, begin with France, and requests opinion and information from fellow Assembly members:

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SECURITY COUNCIL

Liberate France

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee (region): France | Proposed by: Charlotte Ryberg

Description: The World Assembly,

DESCRIBING the region of France prior to its invasion as a strong, thriving and successful region created in 2003 that chose to remain founderless when userite regions (regions that were formed by user region, or non-feeder regions) were asked to decide on a founder, yet their delegates were determined to make the region proud with their own forums and culture;

NOTING the joint invasion of the region of France by Macedon and its ally, Mencer in January 2009, resulting in the merciless ejection and banning of long-time natives of the region and ultimately the password protection of the region to prevent natives from returning;

UNDERSTANDING the grief and anger the actions of the invaders caused to the natives as well as the scale of devastation caused to the region;

CONVINCED that:
- The intention to prevent the celebration of the culture by native inhabitants of France using such tactics is unacceptable;
- The attempt by the invader regions to pass their actions off as simply a raid does not cover up the truth due to the massive understanding of the invasion;

REALIZING that the action of the World Assembly Security Council is the only option left to let legitimate and native nations of France to regain control of the region;

HEREBY liberates and removes password protection from the region of France;

URGES all member states to support the rebuilding and recolonization of France.

Co-authored by Todd McCloud.

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The following is a potential template for similar resolutions:

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SECURITY COUNCIL

Liberate <Region>

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee (region): [region]<Region>[/region] | Proposed by: Charlotte Ryberg

Description: The World Assembly,

DESCRIBING the region of <Region> prior to its invasion as <Describe brief history here>;

NOTING the joint invasion of the region of <Region> by Macedon <OPTIONAL -- and its ally, <InvasionRegion>> in <Date, accurate as possible>, resulting in the merciless ejection and banning of long-time natives of the region and ultimately the password protection of the region to prevent natives from returning;

UNDERSTANDING the grief and anger the actions of the invaders caused to the natives as well as the scale of devastation caused to the region;

CONVINCED that:
- The intention to prevent the celebration of the culture by native inhabitants of <Region> using such tactics is unacceptable;
- <Insert one or more arguments here>;

REALIZING that the action of the World Assembly Security Council is the only option left to let legitimate and native nations of <Region> to regain control of the region;

HEREBY liberates and removes password protection from the region of <Region>;

<Use if currently empty -- URGES all member states to support the rebuilding and recolonization of <Region>>.

Co-authored by <Co-author>.

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If possible it may be possible to create a standard template for the liberation of the rest of the Macedon/Mencer-invaded regions in which I could simply substitute the appropriate fields according to the nature of the invasion and of course, the region name itself. The current aim is to strip Macedon/Mencer of the regions they are currently occupying as quickly as possible.

Over to you, ambassadors!

[Unibot]

*nod*

You might want to mention that Macedon was previously condemned by the WA with the first Security Council resolution. Thats always a good selling point.

Also France, unlike Belgium - has been completely emptied of natives. Only one nation (A Macedonian plug) resides there. So you might want to put a 'ENCOURGES' line, about the possible rebuilding and recolonization of France in the future.

Yours
Ambassador Kuno Krugner

[Merieu]

It's obvious why you would want to free France, but you need to look at the other side of things. Macedon worked pretty damn hard to invade France and oust nearly every single person there, especially a region of that size and magnitude. I say that they earned the right to keep the region under their control. But back to your side, with no one living in the region, it seems like a bunch of wasted space to keep it under Macedonian control.

So... I'm not sure where I stand on this issue. I hope you get enough supporters for this though. Good luck!

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

The Soyedinnyonniyi Schtati supports this proposal as written, but does believe that Belgium has a higher priority. Since a proposal has already been submitted to Liberate Belgium however, we see no problem with proposing this."

[North Wiedna]

I find your draft very invigorating, and gives hope to the regions which rightfully belong to the natives of that country. This is a very great template. Cookies for you.

Let's all hope this passes.

[Todd McCloud]

I was going to submit something on France, but declined after I saw this thread. Here's what I had in mind:

France had been a strong region since its creation in the year of 2003. When userite regions (regions that were formed by user region, or non-feeder regions) were asked to decide on a founder, France was one region which did not decide and remained founderless. Despite this, their delegates have kept a strong post, becoming a formidable region with their own forums and culture.

Roughly seven months ago, the Macedonian Empire cowardly took the region by immediately passwording it, hiding their lack of raiding prowess. In two months the entire region was removed from France and forced to settle elsewhere. Since the removal of the last native nation of France, the world factbook entry of France has read the following (excluding Macedonian links):

"Welcome to the Former German Republic of France.

One of the fastest, most impressive and most effective raids in NS history.

This region is a colony of the Macedonian Empire and Mencer .

Greetings from Macedonia to Sarkozy, our "friend". "

A "password-grab" when one simply sets up a password in a region first and avoids any competition is not, and has never been, defined as a raid. Implimenting a password in a region refuses access to any nation.

It is therefore understood that France shall be liberated, and Macedon, once again, is granted a pardon for their loose use of the word "raid".

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

"I don't understand your last clause, ah, Representative of Todd McCloud."

[Todd McCloud]

"I don't understand your last clause, ah, Representative of Todd McCloud."

It is described in the proposal. The fact that they called their action a raid, when it is actually a 'password-grab', is insulting.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Yes, honoured ambassadors: I am taking all of these notes into account.

[Unibot]

I wouldn't mind it if Ryberg's editon added the 'narrative' of Todd McCloud's proposal to its preamble and gave him co-author listing. Overall I think Ryberg's clauses are very effective and smooth. However you'd have to be careful with mentioning "Roughly Six Months ago" and stuff like that, considering if these proposals pass, they'll be in the archives forever.

[Jey]

Are we going to go and liberate every single region that Macedon invaded? If so, I'm definitely not for that. Liberation should be an extremely seldom-used category. I really don't want to waste months of the WA's time pouring through dozens of Macedon-held regions.

[Unibot]

Are we going to go and liberate every single region that Macedon invaded? If so, I'm definitely not for that. Liberation should be an extremely seldom-used category. I really don't want to waste months of the WA's time pouring through dozens of Macedon-held regions.

I wouldn't mind to be honest - a lot people have been thoroughly screwed with Macedon's empire.

But it makes sense to target these two regions. France is one of the most dramatic cases of Macedonism, and Belgium is their most recent invasion and one that outraged many nations on the world stage. Liberating these two regions sends a strong message.

The Liberation category was created with Macedon in mind.

[Brewdomia]

Its way too small to be considered

[Ballotonia]

Frankly, I'm in favor of running down all non-founder regions in this manner, invaded or not. Not that that's likely to get a majority approval, but that would be my personal preference.

You see... doing that would make region griefing impossible. That's my point.

Ballotonia

[Unibot]

Its way too small to be considered

You mean the region?

France use to be a large, popular region. It was destroyed by Macedon and password-locked by Macedon so that community growth could not happen. Hence it now has only one member.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Its way too small to be considered

Regrettably the current size was the result of the invaders' tactics. Belgium has been fortunate to escape such fate but France, along with others have not.

I wouldn't mind to be honest - a lot people have been thoroughly screwed with Macedon's empire.

But it makes sense to target these two regions. France is one of the most dramatic cases of Macedonism, and Belgium is their most recent invasion and one that outraged many nations on the world stage. Liberating these two regions sends a strong message.

The Liberation category was created with Macedon in mind.

This is completely true, honoured ambassador. However a strategy needs to be developed where:

- We free the regions according to the importance to the general community;
- There is a standard customizable template format to speed up the liberation writing process: the customizable areas yet to be determined will vary according to the severity, the primary witness and the region and so on;

[Unibot]

I realize we don't have any rules set in stone. But mentioning Todd in your preamble might be considering 'Branding'.

But I'm really liking this new draft of the proposal though. In a short amount of time, its really shaped up.

Good Work!

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I realize we don't have any rules set in stone. But mentioning Todd in your preamble might be considering 'Branding'.

But I'm really liking this new draft of the proposal though. In a short amount of time, its really shaped up.
Good Work.

That questionalbe bit is marked for deletion but it is worth noting I have a lot to owe to the legendary ambassador to Todd McCloud for inspiring me joining in the anti-Macedon movement, despite my flag (but it actually represents the Greeks).

[Unibot]

- We free the regions according to the importance to the general community;
- There is a standard customizable template format to speed up the liberation writing process: the customizable areas yet to be determined will vary according to the severity, the primary witness and the region and so on;

I would say the most important regions to be liberated first are those that have been passworded by Macedon, but their invaders are still in the process of kicking their members out. So, that doesn't include France. But I think France will need a head-start on rebuilding anyway.

The reason why I highlight the importance of regions not fully raided by Macedon yet, is because we have a very small window of time - which we need to draft, propose, and get to vote - before those members are kicked out of their regions, and in depression leave the game entirely.

I think as a humanitarian aid movement, with the recent creation of a liberation category, any new victims of a Macedonian attack should be directed to a humanitarian or liberation region. Until now, victims had no hope for a future with their previous region, and no one to lean on -as even defenders couldn't help them sadly. Thankfully, things have changed.

That questionalbe bit is marked for deletion but it is worth noting I have a lot to owe to the legendary ambassador to Todd McCloud for inspiring me joining in the anti-Macedon movement, despite my flag (but it actually represents the Greeks).

I dig that.

[The OpFor]

Are we going to go and liberate every single region that Macedon invaded? If so, I'm definitely not for that. Liberation should be an extremely seldom-used category. I really don't want to waste months of the WA's time pouring through dozens of Macedon-held regions.

I wouldn't mind to be honest - a lot people have been thoroughly screwed with Macedon's empire.

But it makes sense to target these two regions. France is one of the most dramatic cases of Macedonism, and Belgium is their most recent invasion and one that outraged many nations on the world stage. Liberating these two regions sends a strong message.

The Liberation category was created with Macedon in mind.

Agreed. I am all for this proposal and future ones involving the liberation of Macedon's territories.

[Martyrdoom]

I know I'll get panned for saying it, but here we go: the concept of "Liberation" itself could be seen as a way of "Harassing a nation or region because of what they did or said" - the definition of griefing. Belgium and France were legitimately acquired, the password was legitimately used ("Delegates need not worry about whether they are allowed to eject, ban, or password-protect—instead, if the game lets you do them, they're legal" - taken from the "all about influence page").

Nonetheless, as an "empire-builder" myself I could at a push endorse the "liberation" of France because it is currently passworded with a puppet - it is essentially dead and a waste of space. That's not part of any empire, its a nuclear waste-land.

Yet the imperialist group I belong to doesn't aim to destory/empty any region via locking it down with a password through a puppet: we aim to use the password tactically, as a means to help re-found the region under our jurisdiction - said region will then be left open and unhindered but under a desiginated founder's control.

Thus are we the same as Macedon or acceptably different?

Belgium at the moment is not France, it may well be the aim of Macedon to do a repeat performance, but this is second guessing their motives at this time. And I think its dangerous. Cue the torrent!

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

Belgium at the moment is not France, it may well be the aim of Macedon to do a repeat performance, but this is second guessing their motives at this time. And I think its dangerous. Cue the torrent!

I do believe the Macedonians have been ejecting nations from Belgium the moment they get a chance to.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

It may be required to remove the term "the recently condemned" against a region because the proposal must be able to survive in the event that Macedon becomes un-condemned.

[Dysian]

A "password-grab" when one simply sets up a password in a region first and avoids any competition is not, and has never been, defined as a raid. Implimenting a password in a region refuses access to any nation.

It is therefore understood that France shall be liberated, and Macedon, once again, is granted a pardon for their loose use of the word "raid".

Oh my goodness Todd, I think you're going to invent a new definition of raiding.
What is raiding in NS? There's a simple definition, that I think everyone will agree upon: taking the WA delegate position from another region.

And we did that...

P.S. I know this post will actually make me look like I care about what Todd says about us, but guess what - I don't care

[Charlotte Ryberg]

OOC: I'm afraid I may be off-line from 9-13 July, so I may not be able to answer any comments immediately. However, do keep the comments coming in for the draft and the template for subsequent liberations: there is plenty of time to discuss before the France submission which I have pencilled in for around mid to late July.

EDIT: make that "mid to late July".