Commendation research

[Vrindi]

I heard of a bitter conflict in antiquity in the foundation of the west pacific
I imagine that it might just make a good base for a commendation
Can I get some history snippets about the conflict from the seniors

[One Small Island]

I would recommend going to your regions discord and asking some of the older members there, as well as tging some of your regional elders who may not be on discord. You could also ask in the NS History thread in the gameplay forum.

Nobody is going to do your research for you though.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

No it wouldn’t and I would advise against trying to write a Commendation for TWP without the Delegate’s permission.

You’re already on thin ice with me, don’t take a blowtorch to it.

[Dengist China]

No it wouldn’t and I would advise against trying to write a Commendation for TWP without the Delegate’s permission.

What has TWP even done to be Commended, though? From what I know there's not much reason to commend it compared to many of the other GCRs.

[Heavens Reach]

No it wouldn’t and I would advise against trying to write a Commendation for TWP without the Delegate’s permission.

What has TWP even done to be Commended, though? From what I know there's not much reason to commend it compared to many of the other GCRs.

I doubt you're going to be given the blow by blow of what TWP has done to be C/Ced, but being a founding region of the S7, TWPAF's success, The Western Post, TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time), and the diverse offerings of its cultural program come to mind.

[Daritheon]

I heard of a bitter conflict in antiquity in the foundation of the west pacific
I imagine that it might just make a good base for a commendation
Can I get some history snippets about the conflict from the seniors

Why did I try to read this as a limerick

[Dengist China]

I doubt you're going to be given the blow by blow of what TWP has done to be C/Ced, but being a founding region of the S7, TWPAF's success, The Western Post, TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time), and the diverse offerings of its cultural program come to mind.

I don't think the recruitment program would be commendable imho, but the rest of that's pretty solid. If delegate supports and this is under a different author, I would hypothetically support such a proposal.

Though that is not the case, so I am firmly against.

[Heavens Reach]

I doubt you're going to be given the blow by blow of what TWP has done to be C/Ced, but being a founding region of the S7, TWPAF's success, The Western Post, TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time), and the diverse offerings of its cultural program come to mind.

I don't think the recruitment program would be commendable imho, but the rest of that's pretty solid. If delegate supports and this is under a different author, I would hypothetically support such a proposal.

Though that is not the case, so I am firmly against.

The entire item was "TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time)" not just running a recruitment program. Also, regions are either C/Cable or not C/Cable. It doesn't make sense to say individual accomplishments are C/Cable or not C/Cable. The accomplishments contribute toward whether the region is C/Cable, none of them individually are

[Adriatic Democratic Empire]

I don't think the recruitment program would be commendable imho, but the rest of that's pretty solid. If delegate supports and this is under a different author, I would hypothetically support such a proposal.

Though that is not the case, so I am firmly against.

The entire item was "TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time)" not just running a recruitment program. Also, regions are either C/Cable or not C/Cable. It doesn't make sense to say individual accomplishments are C/Cable or not C/Cable. The accomplishments contribute toward whether the region is C/Cable, none of them individually are

Still, it may better to c/c individual members of TWP rather than the whole region

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I doubt you're going to be given the blow by blow of what TWP has done to be C/Ced, but being a founding region of the S7, TWPAF's success, The Western Post, TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time), and the diverse offerings of its cultural program come to mind.

I don't think the recruitment program would be commendable imho, but the rest of that's pretty solid. If delegate supports and this is under a different author, I would hypothetically support such a proposal.

Though that is not the case, so I am firmly against.

There is nothing to be against as this is not going to happen. I doubt Vara would give permission to someone who has zero experience in the SC. An experienced writer would find C&Cing a GCR difficult - a complete noob, no chance.

[Heavens Reach]

The entire item was "TWP's hegemony, growth and the success of its recruitment program (~250 endos to ~350 endos in a year's time)" not just running a recruitment program. Also, regions are either C/Cable or not C/Cable. It doesn't make sense to say individual accomplishments are C/Cable or not C/Cable. The accomplishments contribute toward whether the region is C/Cable, none of them individually are

Still, it may better to c/c individual members of TWP rather than the whole region

I was just responding to OTRSU asking what TWP could possibly have to be C/Ced for

[Vrindi]

Okay okay I'll try later with more experience

No it wouldn’t and I would advise against trying to write a Commendation for TWP without the Delegate’s permission.

You’re already on thin ice with me, don’t take a blowtorch to it.

Okay the no blowtorches here I'll stick to the GA for now

[Dengist China]

There is nothing to be against as this is not going to happen. I doubt Vara would give permission to someone who has zero experience in the SC. An experienced writer would find C&Cing a GCR difficult - a complete noob, no chance.

Well aware that it's unlikely, though I wasn't sure if Vrindi would have dropped it.

Okay the no blowtorches here I'll stick to the GA for now

Perhaps don't try writing resolutions until you've been here for more than three months, but rather a year?

[Sedgistan]

Perhaps don't try writing resolutions until you've been here for more than three months, but rather a year?

This is atrocious advice, and massively offputting to people trying to get involved in the game. There's sense in cautioning people to take their time, do their research, and not to rush proposal authoring, but that's a long way off telling someone they're going to have to spend a year of their life learning the game before they can properly participate.

[Adriatic Democratic Empire]

Perhaps don't try writing resolutions until you've been here for more than three months, but rather a year?

This is atrocious advice, and massively offputting to people trying to get involved in the game. There's sense in cautioning people to take their time, do their research, and not to rush proposal authoring, but that's a long way off telling someone they're going to have to spend a year of their life learning the game before they can properly participate.

Not necessarily bad advice just misleading.

I’d highly advise watching people draft their own resolutions first and read others as well as feedback before you try your own it’s how I learnt. But putting a strict time limit does feel restricted

[Dengist China]

This is atrocious advice, and massively offputting to people trying to get involved in the game. There's sense in cautioning people to take their time, do their research, and not to rush proposal authoring, but that's a long way off telling someone they're going to have to spend a year of their life learning the game before they can properly participate.

I'm almost certain that I could count all the nations that aren't alts that passed resolutions while being under 1y old on one hand. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, while it's not like it's impossible, it's certainly one of the most unwise things you can do as a newbie.

[Sedgistan]

That sounds like a bad thing though, and rather than entrenching the inaccessibility of the SC, more experienced players could be helping others get started in it.

[The Orwell Society]

This is atrocious advice, and massively offputting to people trying to get involved in the game. There's sense in cautioning people to take their time, do their research, and not to rush proposal authoring, but that's a long way off telling someone they're going to have to spend a year of their life learning the game before they can properly participate.

I'm almost certain that I could count all the nations that aren't alts that passed resolutions while being under 1y old on one hand. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, while it's not like it's impossible, it's certainly one of the most unwise things you can do as a newbie.

"Unwise" isn't even close to the right word. If a new nation has the sufficient work ethic and willingness to listen to critique/feedback, then it's not in the slightest "unwise" for them to attempt to draft a WA resolution. While the SC is certainly gameplay-heavy and takes some prior knowledge to get a footing in, one can get a good jist of just about any topic quite easily and put together a draft just as good as a more experience player as long as they do the proper research and listen to feedback. Age doesn't matter, sense and willingness to learn does.

[Dengist China]

"Unwise" isn't even close to the right word. If a new nation has the sufficient work ethic and willingness to listen to critique/feedback, then it's not in the slightest "unwise" for them to attempt to draft a WA resolution. While the SC is certainly gameplay-heavy and takes some prior knowledge to get a footing in, one can get a good jist of just about any topic quite easily and put together a draft just as good as a more experience player as long as they do the proper research and listen to feedback. Age doesn't matter, sense and willingness to learn does.

Yes, I agree. I'm talking about the vast majority of cases, though - most new nations that try to input on the SC don't seem to give a flying fuck about what they're doing so long as they can pass a resolution.

That sounds like a bad thing though, and rather than entrenching the inaccessibility of the SC, more experienced players could be helping others get started in it.

That would be lovely, but trying to attempt an SC resolution solo for no given reason is not at all a good idea. And that is what most of these newbies do. Not all, but it's definitely a massive majority.

[Adriatic Democratic Empire]

"Unwise" isn't even close to the right word. If a new nation has the sufficient work ethic and willingness to listen to critique/feedback, then it's not in the slightest "unwise" for them to attempt to draft a WA resolution. While the SC is certainly gameplay-heavy and takes some prior knowledge to get a footing in, one can get a good jist of just about any topic quite easily and put together a draft just as good as a more experience player as long as they do the proper research and listen to feedback. Age doesn't matter, sense and willingness to learn does.

Yes, I agree. I'm talking about the vast majority of cases, though - most new nations that try to input on the SC don't seem to give a flying fuck about what they're doing so long as they can pass a resolution.

That sounds like a bad thing though, and rather than entrenching the inaccessibility of the SC, more experienced players could be helping others get started in it.

That would be lovely, but trying to attempt an SC resolution solo for no given reason is not at all a good idea. And that is what most of these newbies do. Not all, but it's definitely a massive majority.

Ehh not entirely true. Once again I usually use myself but all of my attempts have been solo and I wouldn’t discourage it if you read what you’re doing

[Dengist China]

Ehh not entirely true. Once again I usually use myself but all of my attempts have been solo and I wouldn’t discourage it if you read what you’re doing

You, however, my fellow RO, have been playing NationStates for more than three years, and have since acquired a very good knowledge of Gameplay. So I don't think using yourself as a counter to this argument is wise, because you're too old

[Adriatic Democratic Empire]

Ehh not entirely true. Once again I usually use myself but all of my attempts have been solo and I wouldn’t discourage it if you read what you’re doing

You, however, my fellow RO, have been playing NationStates for more than three years, and have since acquired a very good knowledge of Gameplay. So I don't think using yourself as a counter to this argument is wise, because you're too old

Fair enough.

Though I’d like to say being inexperienced in Gameplay doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t write a C/C. You obvs need basics but apart from that the only information that is needed is well about the person you are C/Cing and their accomplishments.

Granted, Gameplay knowledge will make the research and drafting process easier. It’s more like a bonus rather than a requirement