[ABANDONED] Repeal SC#475 "Injuct Carcassonne"

[Colmaijo]

Injunct Carcassonne was written 3 years ago when the region was relatively new and had little to defend itself. As of now, it has taken part in raids such as the combined raid of Virelia showing its might. Despite a lack of native support, the SC shouldn't continue to prop up a region which has demonstrated its ability to defend itself. Additionaly, this sets a dangerous precedent that frontiers can present themselves as needy and become raiders, recieving a steady influx of nations through being a frontier and recuiting many to its raiding operations - all while being protected from destructive invasions.

The Security Council,

Recognising that Carcassonne is no longer a new region, having spent 3 years in existence and has a vast community with a nation count of over 1000,

Acknowledging that Injunctions are useful for vulnerable regions lacking the force to defend itself from potential raiders,

Noting that Carcassonne is not a vulnerable region and has taken place in both defending and raiding operations,

Looking at the recent invasion of Virelia to be proof of Carcassonne's capabilities,

Arguing that regions that take place in raiding operations, despite the justification, don't need the protection of the SC with the threat to Carcassonne being gone,

Observing Carcassonne's exponential growth, with the Delegate wielding over 90 endorsements and asserting once again that Carcassonne is more than capable of defending itself,

Establishing that this resolution still allows for the Liberation and Injunction of Carcassonne to take place in the future,

Concluding that Carcassonne doesn't need the Security Council to guarantee its protection in its current state, and that this resolution is wielding a dangerous precedent that any raider region can become a safe haven through an injunction,

Hereby repeals "Injunct Carcassonne".

Looking for suggestions.

[Merethin]

The region Carcassone does not exist, nor is it currently "Injucted".

Against.

[The Orwell Society]

“Carcassonne” is the spelling you’re looking for

[Idinist]

Lot to unpack here.

'Carcassone' -> 'Carcassonne'
'Recognsing' -> 'Recognising'
'Obvserving' -> 'Observing'
'having spent 3 years in existence since 2023' - Could be shortened to just... 'having spent 3 years in existence'
'nation-count' doesn't need to be hyphenated
'injunctions' should be capitalised
'denfend' -> 'defend'
'needn't for the protection of the SC in non-urgent times' is a really weird way of phrasing that sentence
'delegate' should be capitalised
'liberation' should be capitalised
'injunction' again
'alllows' -> 'allows'
'Injuct' -> 'Injunct'

That's just the basic spelling mistakes. That's coupled with the fact that most of the points repeat themselves, and the natives have shown no sign of actually wanting their Injunction repealed. Strongly against.

In addition, the invasion of Virelia doesn't immediately mean that Carcassonne are 'raiders'. The region played host to Sambuca for goodness' sake. It was a valid target.

On a more personal note, this is not the first (frankly, very poor) SC proposal you've submitted to the forums. Writing for the SC is tricky. If you're going to try and do it, you need an actual understanding of gameplay, you need consent from the target, and you need to be able to actually spell properly in your proposals. If you insist on keeping trying this, reach out to your region's WA bureau or equivalent, and ask them for assistance - there's no point in repeating this same thing again and again.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Any sign that the (correctly spelled) region in question wants this Injunction repealed? No, thought not. Well then, I do declare this a fucking awful badge hunt. And not the first the OP has embarked on.

Edit: just gone back and looked at your previous attempts. You appear to have learnt nothing, zip, butkiss, nada. This is as poorly researched as your other efforts, atrocious spelling and zero support from the regions mentioned in the OPs. Please do us a favour and try and show you have learnt from your previous atrocities.

[Colmaijo]

Any sign that the (correctly spelled) region in question wants this Injunction repealed? No, thought not. Well then, I do declare this a fucking awful badge hunt. And not the first the OP has embarked on.

Edit: just gone back and looked at your previous attempts. You appear to have learnt nothing, zip, butkiss, nada. This is as poorly researched as your other efforts, atrocious spelling and zero support from the regions mentioned in the OPs. Please do us a favour and try and show you have learnt from your previous atrocities.

Why would Carcassonne want this repealed when it essentially makes it a fortress? It's clear you haven't even thought this through and just going on a tantrum because of a TWP partner getting their fortress stripped away. Not the first time you make your biases obvious either lol

[Heavens Reach]

Any sign that the (correctly spelled) region in question wants this Injunction repealed? No, thought not. Well then, I do declare this a fucking awful badge hunt. And not the first the OP has embarked on.

Edit: just gone back and looked at your previous attempts. You appear to have learnt nothing, zip, butkiss, nada. This is as poorly researched as your other efforts, atrocious spelling and zero support from the regions mentioned in the OPs. Please do us a favour and try and show you have learnt from your previous atrocities.

Why would Carcassonne want this repealed when it essentially makes it a fortress? It's clear you haven't even thought this through and just going on a tantrum because of a TWP partner getting their fortress stripped away. Not the first time you make your biases obvious either lol

So you are overtly threatening Carcassonne's sovereignty and criticizing its allies for recognizing that sovereignty. Got it.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Any sign that the (correctly spelled) region in question wants this Injunction repealed? No, thought not. Well then, I do declare this a fucking awful badge hunt. And not the first the OP has embarked on.

Edit: just gone back and looked at your previous attempts. You appear to have learnt nothing, zip, butkiss, nada. This is as poorly researched as your other efforts, atrocious spelling and zero support from the regions mentioned in the OPs. Please do us a favour and try and show you have learnt from your previous atrocities.

Why would Carcassonne want this repealed when it essentially makes it a fortress? It's clear you haven't even thought this through and just going on a tantrum because of a TWP partner getting their fortress stripped away. Not the first time you make your biases obvious either lol

If Carcassonne are happy with the Injunction who the hell are you to say any different? My biases are obvious: I dislike badly thought out and poorly written attempts at SC legislation.

The SC will not repeal something like an Injunction or Liberation without the approval of the natives. You haven’t got that so tough shit, this draft is going nowhere. Just like your other appalling efforts.

Learn to spell, learn to write a decent proposal and learn to get native consent where necessary, otherwise give it up.

[The Democratic Disney States]

Very poorly written along with the fact that the natives of Carcassonne have made no indication of them wanting to remove their Injunction. With no native consent and poorly written overall this is an absolute 100% against.

Why would Carcassonne want this repealed when it essentially makes it a fortress? It's clear you haven't even thought this through and just going on a tantrum because of a TWP partner getting their fortress stripped away. Not the first time you make your biases obvious either lol

So you don’t think it should be repealed then? Got it. If it’s already a fortress then why should it be repealed?

Edit: Why a repeal by necessary if it’s already a fortress that’s safe. I feel that first sentence is opposite to the proposal you are trying to make.

[Colmaijo]

So you are overtly threatening Carcassonne's sovereignty and criticizing its allies for recognizing that sovereignty. Got it.

Very poorly written along with the fact that the natives of Carcassonne have made no indication of them wanting to remove their Injunction. With no native consent and poorly written overall this is an absolute 100% against.

If Carcassonne are happy with the Injunction who the hell are you to say any different? My biases are obvious: I dislike badly thought out and poorly written attempts at SC legislation.

It's always the same 'native consent' narrative without any critical thinking. There's a frontier actively gathering nations, yet also being protected by any meaningful raids via the injunction label. There is no incentive for Carcassonne to get rid of the badge because it actively protects them, but there's no use in arguing because you won't care anyways. To the TWP and Peridition, strong Carcassonne = good, despite their raids and no don't give me the whole 'Virelia was justified' nonsense, it was clearly just a showcase of might.
The spelling mistakes are gone, the proposal is written in the same way as many others, so what do you have against this now except it going against your region's interests.

[Pathonia]

Despite a lack of native support, the SC shouldn't continue to prop up a region which has demonstrated its ability to defend itself.

Question; why not?

It's not like the SC has some mechanic in which it is in any way strained by this resolution existing.

There's a frontier actively gathering nations, yet also being protected by any meaningful raids via the injunction label.

You said it yourself that Carcassonne is already more than capable of existing with or without this injunction in place. They can fend off so-called 'meaningful raids,' I'm sure.

Not that, to my knowledge, anyone is even attempting to do that.

so what do you have against this now except it going against your region's interests.

It may also serve you well to recognise that, out of the GA and SC, the SC is significantly more politically involved.

Regional interests serving as a basis for support and/or opposition to an SC draft, therefore, is entirely valid.

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Opposed.
Other people in this thread brought up rather compelling reasons to oppose this, especially the lack of native desire for this to be removed, among other things :p

[Doge Republics]

Any sign that the (correctly spelled) region in question wants this Injunction repealed? No, thought not. Well then, I do declare this a fucking awful badge hunt. And not the first the OP has embarked on.

Edit: just gone back and looked at your previous attempts. You appear to have learnt nothing, zip, butkiss, nada. This is as poorly researched as your other efforts, atrocious spelling and zero support from the regions mentioned in the OPs. Please do us a favour and try and show you have learnt from your previous atrocities.

Why would Carcassonne want this repealed when it essentially makes it a fortress? It's clear you haven't even thought this through and just going on a tantrum because of a TWP partner getting their fortress stripped away. Not the first time you make your biases obvious either lol

Are you saying that blindly harming regions TWP cooperates with is somehow beneficial? Or is this just a long-form badge hunt that you're embarrassing yourself by defending?

[Heavens Reach]

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We understood you the first time. If someone interested in raiding and converting Carcassonne to a stronghold really feels that they are so justified that they can convince the rest of GP to support it, they can go ahead and try this fool's errand then. It makes no sense to repeal this just to open up Carcassonne to becoming a trophy region. And your insistence on doing so is an open challenge to Carcassonne's sovereignty.

[Magrusa]

I'm crine bro

[Colmaijo]

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We understood you the first time. If someone interested in raiding and converting Carcassonne to a stronghold really feels that they are so justified that they can convince the rest of GP to support it, they can go ahead and try this fool's errand then. It makes no sense to repeal this just to open up Carcassonne to becoming a trophy region. And your insistence on doing so is an open challenge to Carcassonne's sovereignty.

You don't get to take part in R/D and then protest about your own sovereignty

[Heavens Reach]

We understood you the first time. If someone interested in raiding and converting Carcassonne to a stronghold really feels that they are so justified that they can convince the rest of GP to support it, they can go ahead and try this fool's errand then. It makes no sense to repeal this just to open up Carcassonne to becoming a trophy region. And your insistence on doing so is an open challenge to Carcassonne's sovereignty.

You don't get to take part in R/D and then protest about your own sovereignty

Weird, because this take is ripped straight out of the raider playbook.

[Doge Republics]

We understood you the first time. If someone interested in raiding and converting Carcassonne to a stronghold really feels that they are so justified that they can convince the rest of GP to support it, they can go ahead and try this fool's errand then. It makes no sense to repeal this just to open up Carcassonne to becoming a trophy region. And your insistence on doing so is an open challenge to Carcassonne's sovereignty.

You don't get to take part in R/D and then protest about your own sovereignty

[Islandwalk]

We understood you the first time. If someone interested in raiding and converting Carcassonne to a stronghold really feels that they are so justified that they can convince the rest of GP to support it, they can go ahead and try this fool's errand then. It makes no sense to repeal this just to open up Carcassonne to becoming a trophy region. And your insistence on doing so is an open challenge to Carcassonne's sovereignty.

You don't get to take part in R/D and then protest about your own sovereignty

Uhuh, yeah we do, and thankfully we have the votes to back it up

[New Halo]

You don't get to take part in R/D and then protest about your own sovereignty

Peak

[Varanius]

I see by the thread title that the author has very wisely abandoned this stupid and pointless draft. Though seeing as they were a little too ashamed to make a post to that effect, I guess this post is actually the first to acknowledge it.

[Hetonika]

I see by the thread title that the author has very wisely abandoned this stupid and pointless draft. Though seeing as they were a little too ashamed to make a post to that effect, I guess this post is actually the first to acknowledge it.

Ever watchful big V

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I see by the thread title that the author has very wisely abandoned this stupid and pointless draft. Though seeing as they were a little too ashamed to make a post to that effect, I guess this post is actually the first to acknowledge it.

Only because I’ve been asleep.

Anyway another badge hunt bites the dust.

[Colmaijo]

I see by the thread title that the author has very wisely abandoned this stupid and pointless draft. Though seeing as they were a little too ashamed to make a post to that effect, I guess this post is actually the first to acknowledge it.

Thanks for stating