[PASSED] Repeal "Injunct Realm of the Whispering Winds"

[The Kharkivan Cossacks]

Failing to count the original lib smh

Fine. Five.
1) Lib
2) Lib Repeal
3) Lib
4) Injunct
5) Injunct Repeal

Damn. I wonder if this is the record.
Also is it just me, or do I feel like I see more “Injunt” and “Liberate” proposals for smaller and smaller regions these past few weeks?

[Haymarket Riot]

Fine. Five.
1) Lib
2) Lib Repeal
3) Lib
4) Injunct
5) Injunct Repeal

Damn. I wonder if this is the record.
Also is it just me, or do I feel like I see more “Injunt” and “Liberate” proposals for smaller and smaller regions these past few weeks?

What I want to know is, who's going to commend Realm of the Whispering Winds for having the most resolutions targeting it? Or condemn? Preferably both.

[All Wild Things]

Damn. I wonder if this is the record.
Also is it just me, or do I feel like I see more “Injunt” and “Liberate” proposals for smaller and smaller regions these past few weeks?

What I want to know is, who's going to commend Realm of the Whispering Winds for having the most resolutions targeting it? Or condemn? Preferably both.

I like this idea. The catch (iirc) is that we can't use the same reasons in both the commend and condemn. We'd need to split it - so maybe Commend the number of Liberations and Condemn the number of Injunctions. It would be neat to see the region end up with all four badges. It could be followed up with a declaration on the topic.

[Hiybkk]

Oh why the fuck not? But I don't like seeing this situation again.

[Haymarket Riot]

What I want to know is, who's going to commend Realm of the Whispering Winds for having the most resolutions targeting it? Or condemn? Preferably both.

I like this idea. The catch (iirc) is that we can't use the same reasons in both the commend and condemn. We'd need to split it - so maybe Commend the number of Liberations and Condemn the number of Injunctions. It would be neat to see the region end up with all four badges. It could be followed up with a declaration on the topic.

I would lobby so hard for this.

[Tricorniolis]

What I want to know is, who's going to commend Realm of the Whispering Winds for having the most resolutions targeting it? Or condemn? Preferably both.

I like this idea. The catch (iirc) is that we can't use the same reasons in both the commend and condemn. We'd need to split it - so maybe Commend the number of Liberations and Condemn the number of Injunctions. It would be neat to see the region end up with all four badges. It could be followed up with a declaration on the topic.

Sounds like a plan.

[Xvraks]

Given the defenders are now taking it upon themselves to attempt to decide themselves what the fate of the region is with NO consultation to myself, and continuously circumventing the will of the natives, I hearby REVOKE my native support of this resolution. If the Security council sees fit to condemn and comment ROWW for the repeated issues, so be it.

I have spent years in this realm. Over a decade at this point. I have devoted myself to it time and time again. I will not see its fate being decided without the consultation of natives and ESPECIALLY myself by foreign nations, whether it be defenders OR raiders. This is OUR realm. Not theirs.

I would sooner open the doors and allow the raiders to have the realm and watch it burn on the distance as I set for new seas than have even defenders deciding for myself and my officers. Had they done their job in the first place, we would not currently be in this situation and we could have made the transition to more secure power far sooner. You do not get to fail in your duties and then make demands.

In closing and to reiterate: as the defenders are taking it upon themselves to make decisions for the realm without my consultation repeatedly, I, Captain Xaphan Vraks, Admiral of the United Fleet of Xvraks, WA Delegate to the Realm of the Whispering winds, herby and without prejudice, REVOKE my support of this resolution.

I will not be taking questions at this time. Thank you.


~Xaphan Vraks.

[Fachumonn]

Why are we continuing to support this with no native support? It seems that native support doesn't matter when the resolution is pushed by the right people.

[Rosartemis]

Why are we continuing to support this with no native support? It seems that native support doesn't matter when the resolution is pushed by the right people.

This resolution is written by the natives.

[Soviet Kittystan]

One day, all the participants not understanding why things are the way they are in the WASC are going to re-read what the wolves of the world have to say about the World Assembly Elites, and they're going to realise that our criticisms are entirely serious and accurate.

[Tricorniolis]

Why are we continuing to support this with no native support? It seems that native support doesn't matter when the resolution is pushed by the right people.

This resolution is written by the natives.

I don't think Skiva is a native of TRotWW, is he?

Also, if the leadership of TRotWW doesn't support this resolution themselves, I think we should revoke our support too. At least, I will.

[Haymarket Riot]

Given the defenders are now taking it upon themselves to attempt to decide themselves what the fate of the region is with NO consultation to myself, and continuously circumventing the will of the natives, I hearby REVOKE my native support of this resolution. If the Security council sees fit to condemn and comment ROWW for the repeated issues, so be it.

I have spent years in this realm. Over a decade at this point. I have devoted myself to it time and time again. I will not see its fate being decided without the consultation of natives and ESPECIALLY myself by foreign nations, whether it be defenders OR raiders. This is OUR realm. Not theirs.

I would sooner open the doors and allow the raiders to have the realm and watch it burn on the distance as I set for new seas than have even defenders deciding for myself and my officers. Had they done their job in the first place, we would not currently be in this situation and we could have made the transition to more secure power far sooner. You do not get to fail in your duties and then make demands.

In closing and to reiterate: as the defenders are taking it upon themselves to make decisions for the realm without my consultation repeatedly, I, Captain Xaphan Vraks, Admiral of the United Fleet of Xvraks, WA Delegate to the Realm of the Whispering winds, herby and without prejudice, REVOKE my support of this resolution.

I will not be taking questions at this time. Thank you.


~Xaphan Vraks.

All jokes in this thread about multiple C&C's aside, I'm terribly sorry to hear that. Defenders need to be doing their jobs instead of twiddling thumbs, using institutional power to pass pointless resolutions, and haranguing/COUPING natives. Switched my vote and my region's recommendation to against because of lack of native delegate support.

[Reventus Koth]

Not that I don't enjoy a good potshot at defenders every now and again, but is your quarrel here not with your own regionmate, Xvraks? Skiva wrote this proposal, not a defender.

[Fachumonn]

herby

Why are we talking about that guy again?

[A Bloodred Moon]

Given the defenders are now taking it upon themselves to attempt to decide themselves what the fate of the region is with NO consultation to myself, and continuously circumventing the will of the natives, I hearby REVOKE my native support of this resolution.

Defenders appear to have taken this callout with all the grace you have come to expect from them, as they now appear to be attempting to replace you with Jolx despite the explicit native wishes. It would appear that this only applies to Defender-approved inhabitants, after all:

Believing that the inhabitants of Realm of the Whispering Winds should be in full control of their homeland,

As a gesture of our respect for your refusal to lick Defenders' boots, we have intervened to foil this attempt for your protection. We recommend removing them at your earliest convenience.

[Reventus Koth]

Not that I don't enjoy a good potshot at defenders every now and again, but is your quarrel here not with your own regionmate, Xvraks? Skiva wrote this proposal, not a defender.

Never mind this, I just noticed that defenders are actively trying to coup Xvraks by installing Jolx as Delegate. I once again apologize for giving defenders any benefit of the doubt.

[Fachumonn]

Not going to lie, this whole situation has been a colossal screw-up for defenders. I hope that they can acknowledge that.


I think it's pretty obvious why I'm not involved in R/D: Raiders use bad practices for bad intentions and have stupid reasons, defenders are a bunch of incompetent moralists who can't get their act together in a browser game despite not touching grass because of it for the last two weeks.

[Rosartemis]

Not that I don't enjoy a good potshot at defenders every now and again, but is your quarrel here not with your own regionmate, Xvraks? Skiva wrote this proposal, not a defender.

Never mind this, I just noticed that defenders are actively trying to coup Xvraks by installing Jolx as Delegate. I once again apologize for giving defenders any benefit of the doubt.

Fascinating.

[The Phantom Gambler]

The fact defenders are now taking hostile action against native governments despite all their labeling and propaganda against raiders is hilarious to me. I guess it's time for us to start thinking of new names for them? Because "defenders" isn't appropriate anymore.

[Tricorniolis]

Damn. Just when I thought this couldn't go any worse, defenders try to coup the native supported WA Delegate. DAMN.

[Omnicontrol]

indies have become defenders and defenders have become indies. these are strange times for berry club r/d.

[Improper Classifications]

I cannot say in my life I have ever seen defenders trying to coup an actual native like this and then raiders proceeding to shore up the native delegate with their own endorsements. (For the record, at press time LWU pilers have been ejected by a different BCRO.)

[Skiva]

It's clear that there's an increasing amount of confusion over the circumstances. Allow me to explain.

The goal of all that we have done is to establish a governor. Xvraks would have had enough to initiate the transfer to a frontier, but not enough to initiate the transfer back. Jolx, on the otherhand, has more than enough. I have no control over who Defender Command chooses to pile, but the """coup""" makes sense. Ironically, it was only made more necessary by Xvraks ejecting Jolx endorsers and tanking his own influence in the process earlier this morning.

I empathize with Xvraks deeply, as I know his pain of Defender Command going over your head and causing a mess, and it is my hope that Jolx will abdicate the governorship to Xvraks, but the fact of the matter remains that we won't be able to have a governor if Jolx is not made delegate. I will continue to eject all raider "support", as it is abundantly clear that this so called support only exists to further the mess.

[Reventus Koth]

It's clear that there's an increasing amount of confusion over the circumstances. Allow me to explain.

The goal of all that we have done is to establish a governor. Xvraks would have had enough to initiate the transfer to a frontier, but not enough to initiate the transfer back. Jolx, on the otherhand, has more than enough. I have no control over who Defender Command chooses to pile, but the """coup""" makes sense. Ironically, it was only made more necessary by Xvraks ejecting Jolx endorsers and tanking his own influence in the process earlier this morning.

I empathize with Xvraks deeply, as I know his pain of Defender Command going over your head and causing a mess, and it is my hope that Jolx will abdicate the governorship to Xvraks, but the fact of the matter remains that we won't be able to have a governor if Jolx is not made delegate. I will continue to eject all raider "support", as it is abundantly clear that this so called support only exists to further the mess.

None of this explains why anti-raider interlopers had to get involved in the first place and mass unendorse Xvraks. I have to assume that it wasn't done with his blessing, given his earlier post.

[Flying Eagles]

None of this explains why anti-raider interlopers had to get involved in the first place and mass unendorse Xvraks.

It’s faster to get 25 people to endorse Jolx and unendorse Xvraks than it is to get 50 people to endorse Jolx.