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[PASSED] Repeal "Liberate Realm of the Whispering Winds"

Postby Skiva » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:31 pm

Greetings Security Council! The Realm of the Whispering Winds stands in quite the precarious situation at the moment. I have been in contact with Xvraks through my former main (and native) nation of Books Rule Supreme, and we both agree that a password is necessary to guarentee safety of the region whilst we figure out what happens next. As such, over the course of the past week, I have been studying the rules for proposals, monitoring this forum to prevent making catastrophic blunders that many others have made, and been drafting a proposal to repeal the liberation standing in the way of our safety.

The writing is nowhere near fanciful as I would like it to be, but I would rather receive feedback before that point for fear of accidentally writing something illegal. Any critiscm / concern will be addressed, and I am more than happy to accept and help of feedback that is thrown my way. Thank you!
The Security Council,

Expressing great joy in the passage of Security Council Resolution #411, which prevented the total destruction of the Realm of the Whispering Winds (the Realm) at the hands of invaders, thereby upholding the right to self-determination by natives,

Saddened by the lack of revitalization within the region, despite efforts from the shaken legitimate government,

Despaired by further invasions, ravaging the faltering native population,

Grateful for Security Council Resolution #411, once again protecting the Realm from ruin and allowing for the restoration of the native Xvraks to the delegacy,

Cognizant of Xvraks’ wishes for a password to steady the tumultuous waters in order to reignite the pirate population of the Realm,

Aware of Security Council Resolution #411 having served its purpose and now remains as an obstruction to the means of obtaining permanent protection,

Hereby repeals Security Council Resolution #411 “Liberate Realm of the Whispering Winds.”

Current draft:
The Security Council,

Noting that throughout the vastness of the multiverse, few regions captured the seafaring mindset as elegantly as the pirate crew of the Realm of the Whispering Winds, hereby referred to as “the Realm”,

Observing that, following the guidance of the incredible captain Halcyon nova, the Realm established a way of life involving rum, treasure, and a penchant for gratifying interactions with fellow pirates,

Saddened by the departure of Halcyon nova from the waters oft traveled by the Realm, ultimately leaving the captain’s quarters in the hands of Jolx, a beloved deck officer elected to the position by the crew,

Despaired by the stagnation of the Realm, causing rival crews to board the ship, resulting in a forceful seizure of the captain’s quarters and all priorly obtained plunder,

Gladdened by intervention from foreign naval forces, restoring native crew to the position of captain and taking measures in the form of Security Council Resolution #411, which prevents the permanent dismantling of the ship, thereby preserving the lifestyle for many crew to come,

Cognizant of the continued boardings, even after the native Xvraks’ ascension to the captaincy, but nonetheless still grateful for Security Council Resolution #411 and the continued helpful responses from foreign navy fleets,

Aware of the order given by Xvraks, stating the necessity of a temporary departure from the high seas in order to repair the ship, rejuvenate the crew, and restock on plenty of rum,

Conscious that Security Council Resolution #411 has served its solemn duty and now stands as the last obstacle before sailing towards better waters,

Hereby repeals “Liberate Realm of the Whispering Winds.”
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Postby Bormiar » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:57 pm

You and your region’s delegate should contact the defenders involved in the initial liberation, and ask what they think they can do to protect the region in case of a second invasion — in short, strategize with them.

Anyways, my only suggestion is you change “despite efforts” to “despite worthy efforts” or “respectable efforts”. The proposal is very good. Almost too good…
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:05 pm

Realm of the Whispering Winds will have a better chance at regional security if they tear down that embassy with Fifth Empire's pals in Mitteleuropa.
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Postby Skiva » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:16 pm

Bormiar wrote:You and your region’s delegate should contact the defenders involved in the initial liberation, and ask what they think they can do to protect the region in case of a second invasion — in short, strategize with them.

Good suggestion! I worry that relying on defenders for safety will not be the most sustainable of solutions. Hence, the need for a repeal.
Bormiar wrote:Anyways, my only suggestion is you change “despite efforts” to “despite worthy efforts” or “respectable efforts”.

Added this into my drafting document, alongside a minor formatting mistake I noticed.
Angeloid Astraea wrote:Realm of the Whispering Winds will have a better chance at regional security if they tear down that embassy with Fifth Empire's pals in Mitteleuropa.

Agreed. This is my mistake, I should have noticed it in my embassy cleanup spree that I never got around to. Will be closed, and I'll actually go through the embassies like I said I would on the Realm's RMB.

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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:41 pm

Skiva wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:Realm of the Whispering Winds will have a better chance at regional security if they tear down that embassy with Fifth Empire's pals in Mitteleuropa.

Agreed. This is my mistake, I should have noticed it in my embassy cleanup spree that I never got around to. Will be closed, and I'll actually go through the embassies like I said I would on the Realm's RMB.

Happy to hear it. =]
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Postby Bormiar » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:45 pm

Skiva wrote:
Bormiar wrote:You and your region’s delegate should contact the defenders involved in the initial liberation, and ask what they think they can do to protect the region in case of a second invasion — in short, strategize with them.

Good suggestion! I worry that relying on defenders for safety will not be the most sustainable of solutions. Hence, the need for a repeal.

It's been eight years since I've had to do this last. But AFAIK setting a password will require a large amount of influence (which you need to be sure you have) and will take time. I don't know what these talks might consist of, but still you'll want to reach out to a defender to discuss the time period between the repeal being passed and the password being set.

Your posts here suggest you have experience in the R/D game. Is that true?

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Postby Skiva » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:05 pm

Bormiar wrote:It's been eight years since I've had to do this last. But AFAIK setting a password will require a large amount of influence (which you need to be sure you have) and will take time. I don't know what these talks might consist of, but still you'll want to reach out to a defender to discuss the time period between the repeal being passed and the password being set.

Ah, my apologies, I misunderstand your post. I believe Jolx has ~23k Influence from his former delegacy. I don't know the exact number needed, but I highly doubt it would exceed his amount influence. Additionally, the current delegate, Xvraks, has around ~3.5k influence, which seems like a number that might need to be raised. If worst comes to worst, we could transfer the delegacy to Jolx, institute a password, then transfer it back. Regardless, working out an arrangement with some form of defender group would be the safest option, and I do appreciate your calling of attention to it.
Bormiar wrote:Your posts here suggest you have experience in the R/D game. Is that true?

Not exactly. R/D has recently intrigued me, and I have spent a good chunk of time familiarizing myself with the politics/tactics associated with gameplay, but I have not had any firsthand experience.

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Postby Bormiar » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:35 pm

Skiva wrote:l
Bormiar wrote:Your posts here suggest you have experience in the R/D game. Is that true?

Not exactly. R/D has recently intrigued me, and I have spent a good chunk of time familiarizing myself with the politics/tactics associated with gameplay, but I have not had any firsthand experience.

Before I back off - what’s your experience on NS, generally?

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Postby Xvraks » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:41 am

Thank you everyone for your replies. I do think, as we have since initial liberation been raided twice that repealing and allowing for ROWW to institute a password, even temporarily to coordinate and cleanse, will allow for a stronger position for the region overall. Thanks to your various inputs I will be coordinating with my associate here, our defenders, and the few long-standing members remaining to coordinate plans and support to prevent internal conflict and takeover. While my experience with raids is limited to what I have experience over the years, I have learned much since my initial nation founded almost a decade ago (oof) and since creating this nation within the last decade as well. I am always open to suggestions from longer standing nations and regions, so long as they are intended benevolently and respectfully. This measure has my full support as WA delegate, as a continued officer of the region, and as a long-standing nation.

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Postby Skiva » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:30 am

Bormiar wrote:Before I back off - what’s your experience on NS, generally?

I first formed my original nation of Books Rule Supreme in Summer of '18 and resided in the Realm, alongside a host of puppet nations scattered throughout. All of them amounted to nothing, and I eventually lost interest after staying fairly surface level of the game and CTE'd two years later. I made my return in May of '23 with this nation, where I found myself interested in inter-regional interactions, alongside learning the history of NationStates.

I'm a bit confused on why you're asking though, could you elaborate a bit on that?

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Postby Bormiar » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:20 pm

Skiva wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Before I back off - what’s your experience on NS, generally?

I first formed my original nation of Books Rule Supreme in Summer of '18 and resided in the Realm, alongside a host of puppet nations scattered throughout. All of them amounted to nothing, and I eventually lost interest after staying fairly surface level of the game and CTE'd two years later. I made my return in May of '23 with this nation, where I found myself interested in inter-regional interactions, alongside learning the history of NationStates.

I'm a bit confused on why you're asking though, could you elaborate a bit on that?

I’m suspicious that you’re not really a new player. :P

Do you have an account on the LKE forums? Is there anyone who’s been particularly helpful in mentoring you? Have you held any government positions or participated in any R/D operations? Do you have a Discord account? When did you join the WA on Skiva?

What do you know about the history of NSGP?

Bear in mind, your answers to these questions or evasions thereof bear great importance on whether or not you can be trusted as a representative of the Realm.
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Postby Improper Classifications » Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:59 pm

For reference, Xvrak's 3.5k influence is more than enough to put a secret password on a region of 63 inhabitants. Oh, and have fun tearing down that Mitteleuropa embassy.
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Postby Skiva » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:30 pm

Bormiar wrote:I’m suspicious that you’re not really a new player. :P

I'm flattered.
Bormiar wrote:Do you have an account on the LKE forums? Is there anyone who’s been particularly helpful in mentoring you? Have you held any government positions or participated in any R/D operations? Do you have a Discord account? When did you join the WA on Skiva?

Yes, I have an account on the LKE forums, aptly named Skiva. I wouldn't consider it a mentorship by any means, but I have been working in collaboration with the LKE delegate of New Zora to produce the inaugural edition of the IBS. These communications have largely happened via Discord, which if you need my username, I can provide it. Throughout my career, I have not touched R/D. There was some form of government role that I won an election for during my Books Rule Supreme days in R2W, but my memory of it is hazy. If I recall correctly, it was a minor role. I joined the WA pretty early on in Skiva, and have held it there since.

Bormiar wrote:What do you know about the history of NSGP?

I know that, in a distant time period, there was an imperialism spree largely purported by the LKE and TNI (at least according to LKE sources, which there is bound to be bias), and the war started with the FRA. I don't know what happened next, but I do know that several prominent raider organizations rose. Fast forwarding to present day, I know that the TNP, among others, are engaged in war with the BOM, among others. I know that raided unity prevails, lending strength to destruction, and I know that defenders are struggling to respond. And I know that the events of Magna Aurea have left many fearful of stealth operatives, of which I assure you that I am not.

I hold no malicious intent towards R2W, nor any region for that matter. I apologize if I come across as hostile, as its vastly detrimental to fight with those trying to help.

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Postby Bormiar » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:40 pm

Skiva: My bad. You reminded me of a friend of mine who was evading DoS (delete-on-sight) for about a year. Fwiw, full support.

Edit: By the way, again for whatever my opinion’s worth, you seem like a really competent and talented player.
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Postby Skiva » Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:31 pm

Following a bit of a tumultuous past two weeks filled with some of my biggest ups and downs of real life, I've crafted a second draft based on insight from Westinor. This draft takes a pirate theme to tie together the regional culture more the proposal, and is a complete rewrite. As always, suggestions are fully welcome. I'm quite proud of this draft, but improvement can always be had and there's the possibility of something illegal I could've missed. Thank you in advance! o7

The Security Council,

Noting that throughout the vastness of the multiverse, few regions captured the seafaring mindset as elegantly as the pirate crew of the Realm of the Whispering Winds, hereby referred to as “the Realm”,

Observing that, following the guidance of the incredible captain Halcyon nova, the Realm established a way of life involving rum, treasure, and a penchant for gratifying interactions with fellow pirates,

Saddened by the departure of Halcyon nova from the waters oft traveled by the Realm, ultimately leaving the captain’s quarters in the hands of Jolx, a beloved deck officer elected to the position by the crew,

Despaired by the stagnation of the Realm, causing rival crews to board the ship, resulting in a forceful seizure of the captain’s quarters and all priorly obtained plunder,

Gladdened by intervention from foreign naval forces, restoring native crew to the position of captain and taking measures in the form of Security Council Resolution #411, which prevents the permanent dismantling of the ship, thereby preserving the lifestyle for many crew to come,

Cognizant of the continued boardings, even after the native Xvraks’ ascension to the captaincy, but nonetheless still grateful for Security Council Resolution #411 and the continued helpful responses from foreign navy fleets,

Aware of the order given by Xvraks, stating the necessity of a temporary departure from the high seas in order to repair the ship, rejuvenate the crew, and restock on plenty of rum,

Conscious that Security Council Resolution #411 has served its solemn duty and now stands as the last obstacle before sailing towards better waters,

Hereby repeals “Liberate Realm of the Whispering Winds.”
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Postby Skiva » Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:26 pm

Moving this to Last Call. Current draft is the above post, as well as listed in the OP. Happy to listen to any feedback :)
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:51 am

Saddened by the departure of Halcyon nova from the waters oft traveled by the Realm, ultimately leaving the captain’s quarters in the hands of Jolx, a beloved deck officer elected to his position by the crew,

Personal pronoun = illegal, R2(a).

Apart from that I like the style and detail of this repeal.
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Postby Skiva » Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:20 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Saddened by the departure of Halcyon nova from the waters oft traveled by the Realm, ultimately leaving the captain’s quarters in the hands of Jolx, a beloved deck officer elected to his position by the crew,

Personal pronoun = illegal, R2(a).

Good catch-- I've substituted "the" in place of "his", which unfortunately weakens the sentence but it solves the issue.

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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:21 pm

Skiva wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Saddened by the departure of Halcyon nova from the waters oft traveled by the Realm, ultimately leaving the captain’s quarters in the hands of Jolx, a beloved deck officer elected to his position by the crew,

Personal pronoun = illegal, R2(a).

Good catch-- I've substituted "the" in place of "his", which unfortunately weakens the sentence but it solves the issue.

You could also say "their".
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Postby Skiva » Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:44 pm

Submitted the proposal-- if you'd like, you can approve it here.

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Skiva wrote:Submitted the proposal-- if you'd like, you can approve it here.

Good luck.
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Skiva wrote:Submitted the proposal-- if you'd like, you can approve it here.

And... approved!
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Postby The Kharkivan Cossacks » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:10 pm

Skiva wrote:Submitted the proposal-- if you'd like, you can approve it here.

It has been approved.
I wish you luck on this proposal, may it be successful.
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Postby Skiva » Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:39 pm

Hello all, I've submitted the draft yet again. Second time's the charm, am I right? Jokes aside, the first proposal failed due to a failure on my end in campaigning, as I assumed I could simply manually telegram all the delegates in a reasonable time. Following the realization that it wasn't feasible, I then assumed 150 recipients would be enough. It wasn't.

Regardless, aided by the use of the API, I'm back. Approvals are greatly appreciated, and I hope to see it at vote.

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