[Draft 2] - On Catherine Gratwick

[Bormiar]

For what it’s worth, recent posts from Refuge and Wally have convinced me to support this proposal.

[Simone Republic]

For what it’s worth, recent posts from Refuge and Wally have convinced me to support this proposal.

Sorry I didn't really explain it at first, since this crosses multiple forums (GA, Got Issues, and the new powers that befall the new GenSec is in technical).

Why is this relevant to the SC? I fail to see how this is relevant.

By April, when the new Sec-Gen is elected and when they have new powers, it should be more relevant. At the moment the Sec-Gens have no actual powers. Sedgistan has already confirmed on the technical forum that the new Sec-Gen has actual powers, unlike previous Sec-Gens. For example it will have one veto on a Security Council resolution every six months.

[Astrobolt]

Why is this relevant to the SC? I fail to see how this is relevant.

By April, when the new Sec-Gen is elected and when they have new powers, it should be more relevant. At the moment the Sec-Gens have no actual powers. Sedgistan has already confirmed on the technical forum that the new Sec-Gen has actual powers, unlike previous Sec-Gens. For example it will have one veto on a Security Council resolution every six months.

I completely fail to see how the SC Sec-Gen is even at all relevant to this proposal, beyond the fact that Gratwick’s title is Sec-Gen.

[Simone Republic]

By April, when the new Sec-Gen is elected and when they have new powers, it should be more relevant. At the moment the Sec-Gens have no actual powers. Sedgistan has already confirmed on the technical forum that the new Sec-Gen has actual powers, unlike previous Sec-Gens. For example it will have one veto on a Security Council resolution every six months.

I completely fail to see how the SC Sec-Gen is even at all relevant to this proposal, beyond the fact that Gratwick’s title is Sec-Gen.

Yeah, ummm... de jure it is WA Sec-Gen (that's the title Kuriko has on their page as well) although I know de facto the RP leans more GA.

[Wallenburg]

Perhaps any declaration concerning Gratwick should include a plea for the sweet release only a second, even larger interdimensional fireball can bring.

[Gruenberg]

Unless Der Angst has particularly indicated they want this I don't see any point.

[Yelda]

I don't see the need for this. A declaration on the Thessadorian Ambassador would make just as much sense, and the average player would be just as familiar with the character.

[Simone Republic]

Perhaps any declaration concerning Gratwick should include a plea for the sweet release only a second, even larger interdimensional fireball can bring.

This has been added. No word from the Kennyites etc on this yet.

[Simone Republic]

By April, when the new Sec-Gen is elected and when they have new powers, it should be more relevant. At the moment the Sec-Gens have no actual powers. Sedgistan has already confirmed on the technical forum that the new Sec-Gen has actual powers, unlike previous Sec-Gens. For example it will have one veto on a Security Council resolution every six months.

I completely fail to see how the SC Sec-Gen is even at all relevant to this proposal, beyond the fact that Gratwick’s title is Sec-Gen.

According to the latest update, the new Sec-Gen will cover both GA and SC and will have IFV powers.
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=500484

We don't need more GA declarations, thanks. How about recognising some other RP characters/threads/incidents?

I am not in any other RP and my C&Cs read like executive profiles on job search web sites. So you're not likely to see many C&Cs from me. Maybe a co-author credit here or there.

[Simone Republic]

*Bump*.

There's obviously no urgency to submission, but any additional feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I have not heard back from any of the 2006-09-ish players who would have used Catherine Gratwick in other contexts.

Draft 1

Category: Declaration

The Security Council,

Appalled that Her Infinite Terribleness, Queen of Gnomes, Keeper of the UNmentionable Records, the Wrathful Secretary-General Catherine Gratwick has haunted the hallowed halls of this esteemed organ since antiquity as the supposed one true Secretary-General holding a lifetime appointment, despite the complete lack of evidence on her appointment in the first place, and elections for the post for the last two terms of office, and hence the dubiousness of her status as Secretary-General of anything;

Shocked that Secretary-General Gratwick received the gift of immortality and youth from mysterious forces beyond the comprehension of the multiverse, allowing her to appear in the shape and age of every sapient species, and her ability to time travel giving her (allegedly) a sheer malignant and capricious role in every conceivable atrocious crime against humanity, such as wars, famines, pandemics, the serial comma, and Christmas songs in early November;

Perturbed that Secretary-General Gratwick’s time travel ability lets her (and her ancestors) permeate every aspect of the government of member nations (as well as that of millions of non-members), in such areas as acting as the occasional menacing leader of neighboring nations, contributing to cancer research, women’s suffrage, driving trucks mounted with grenade launchers firing at anyone who trespasses on her vast holdings of properties, selling miracle diets, winning national dance offs, as well as gaining worldwide renown as a best-selling author, celebrated model, film star, pageant aficionado, and painter of trains, among a wide variety of other prominent roles;

Terrified that the "colossal fireball of extra-dimensional inanity" described that destroyed previous incarnations of certain organs for global power was (again, allegedly) the concoction of none other than Secretary-General Gratwick herself, who sought to gain power over the entire multiverse no matter what the cost;

Dismayed that Secretary-General Gratwick has apparently been on paid leave since time immemorial, and is somehow still on the payroll despite the presence of democratically-elected leaders such as Caelapes, Kuriko, and The Salaxalans, thus succeeding in drawing away vast treasures from this prestigious organ into her bank vaults without doing any actual work, nor having any work for starters given that the Secretary-General (was) a post with absolutely no powers, a nightmare to the citizens of member nations but a dream for the ministers, ambassadors, diplomats, and assorted hangers-on of this reverted organ;

Believing that the Security Council (and its neighbor) suffer from such atrocious and decadent behavior as to merit another bigger fireball of extra-dimensional inanity to be launched against them, in order to provide the sweet release required by many of the ambassadors to this esteemed organ;

Hereby declares either the member nations’ undying loyalty and fealty, and/or dreadful contempt and vile hatred of Catherine Gratwick.

[Simone Republic]

Draft 2 published. No word on Discord from any of the older authors who used Gratwick even more extensively in their RP but I incorporated a few comments.

[Astrobolt]

I completely fail to see how the SC Sec-Gen is even at all relevant to this proposal, beyond the fact that Gratwick’s title is Sec-Gen.

According to the latest update, the new Sec-Gen will cover both GA and SC and will have IFV powers.
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=500484

That is completely irrelevant to Gratwick.

Without any evidence provided of Gratwick's significance such as in RPs (beyond mentions in a few issues), I don't see the point of this.

[Westinor]

I appreciate the level of research and worldbuilding this brings in! I just feel a little bit unmotivated to support and engage with it in general because it reads as a bit of a quick wikipedia-style overview of Ms. Gratwick but flamed up a bit? The humor is there but I think there could be a bit more fun played around with Gratwick's various adventures across Nationstates issues/old GA RPs! I think the introduction could be a bit more of a ride as well :D

That all is horribly unhelpful and I told myself I wouldn't post something like this without feedback but I am exhausted so :C tentatively would be down to give more feedback if you can poke me, Simone! Not that. Anything I say might be helpful but D:

[Honeydewistania]

This feels like wasted potential. To unashamedly toot my own horn, "International Maxtopia Day" comprehensively and seamlessly marries the different areas affected by Maxtopia: the GA and issues, which is pretty similar to Catherine Gratwick. Also, there is very little actual characterisation of Gratwick, as this is just a laundry list of references (btw, what are you referencing? what are the sources for Catherine Gratwick sending a fireball to destroy the WA?). If we are celebrating the woman, the myth, the legend, it should give us some insight into the real her.

[Fachumonn]

huh welcome back ig

[Honeydewistania]

huh welcome back ig

Who?

[Fachumonn]

huh welcome back ig

Who?

Confused even more, one is

[Simone Republic]

This feels like wasted potential. To unashamedly toot my own horn, "International Maxtopia Day" comprehensively and seamlessly marries the different areas affected by Maxtopia: the GA and issues, which is pretty similar to Catherine Gratwick. Also, there is very little actual characterisation of Gratwick, as this is just a laundry list of references (btw, what are you referencing? what are the sources for Catherine Gratwick sending a fireball to destroy the WA?). If we are celebrating the woman, the myth, the legend, it should give us some insight into the real her.

Anything you can add to it? You're a much better C&C author than I am. I write these things like Wikipedia articles or New York Times obituaries.