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[DEFEATED] Condemn Tinhampton

Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:35 pm

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Understanding the importance of influence and power in the global political climate of today, but chastising those whose pursuit of the above causes extreme disruption and endangerment to others;

Incensed that Tinhampton is one such agent of chaos, the actions of which in the hallowed halls of the World Assembly (WA) and beyond have destroyed the livelihoods of many;

Shocked that, despite governing a small city-state, the government of Tinhampton has funded a horrifyingly colossal WA department, with an unending roster of ambassadors churning out hundreds of WA legislation drafts in an attempt to inundate these consecrated corridors;

Dismayed by Tinhampton’s scattershot antics in the General Assembly (GA) chambers, which include:
  • proposing legislation on various irrelevant non-issues such as a WA Peace Prize and an international “clap for carers” day, squandering valuable gnomic resources;

  • recklessly repealing numerous important GA resolutions, leading to consequences ranging from the loss of exquisite WA-sponsored merchandise to the destruction of marine environments and genocidal war criminals evading capture; and

  • terminating copyrights over countless items of intellectual property under the guise of “civil rights” via [resolution=GA#656]"Protecting Public Domain Dedications"[/resolution], risking the profitability of the arts, sciences and other important fields;


Disappointed that Tinhampton’s shenanigans in the Security Council (SC) have not fared much better, where in addition to flooding its chambers with trite such as wishy-washy virtue-signalling declarations on equality and self-determination as well as shiny badges for ‘hot topic of the day nations’ with no lasting international legacy, it praised the policy papers produced by Sacara’s propagandistic and malicious think tanks via [resolution=SC#382]“Commend Sacara”[/resolution], with one encouraging nations to deport all immigrants and another to burn down temples of peaceful worshippers;

Stunned that, despite having the ignominy of proposing a record-breaking 26 defeated-at-vote proposals, Tinhampton has taken it upon themselves to operate an archive of every defeated SC proposal ever in a desperate attempt to profit off its own failures and secure its infamy;

Perturbed at Tinhampton’s vicious “verbal feng shui” tactic, in which Tinhamptonian ambassadors prey on inexperienced authors by offering to rewrite their WA drafts to make them more “acceptable”, an attempt to further the Tinhamptonian agenda and gain a shred of legitimacy in these chambers whilst throwing these newer authors under the bus should things go awry;

Distraught at Tinhampton’s forays into the world of sports in an attempt to feign legitimacy through cultural participation and sportswash its own misdemeanors, including:
  • granting “independence” to its ex-colony Saint Eleanor, when in reality the Tinhamptonian government controls the nation as a puppet state, concentrating their sports resources there, Saint Eleanor being a disgustingly luxurious and oil-rich nation, that bankrolls their leagues and national teams despite little grassroots support, leading to a highly undeserved victory in the 84th Cup of Harmony by an Eleanorian team managed by Priscilla Evans (from Tinhampton’s winning team in the 73rd Cup of Harmony); and

  • exploiting the well-regarded names of The Holy Empire, Nephara, and Cassadaigua by writing commendations for them in the SC, solely to increase Tinhampton and Saint Eleanor’s public images in the WA and sporting worlds respectively,

Abhorring Tinhampton for stirring up conflict in foreign nations before swooping in and “solving” issues, a twisted and sovereignty-violating method to grasp at what straws of recognition and legitimacy it could find, which include:


  • “One in the Arm for Leader?”, where Tinhampton latched onto Turbeaux’s well-intentioned mission to reduce drug overdoses to propose the prohibition of needle exchanges in thousands of nations, trampling on public health; and

  • “Profitable for Doctrine”, an award-winning yet sinister policy paper which took advantage of an ongoing debate on the taxation of holy texts to promote the defunding of public welfare and infrastructure;

Believing that Tinhampton’s reckless quest for soft power has wreaked havoc on an international scale, and that a condemnation from this body would bring a halt to their calamitous clout chase;

The Security Council hereby condemns Tinhampton.


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Understanding the importance of influence and power in the global political climate of today, but chastising those whose pursuit of the above cause extreme disruption and endangerment to others,

Incensed that Tinhampton is one such agent of chaos, whose actions in the Hallowed Halls of the World Assembly (WA) and beyond have destroyed the livelihoods of many,

Shocked that despite governing a small city-state, the government of Tinhampton has funded a horrifyingly colossal WA department, with an unending roster of ambassadors churning out and proposing hundreds of WA legislation drafts in an attempt to inundate these Consecrated Corridors,

Dismayed that Tinhampton’s scattershot antics in the General Assembly chambers have resulted in valuable gnomic resources being squandered on non-issues such as an international convention to name diseases, a WA Peace Prize, and even an international ‘clap for carers’ day,

Lamenting Tinhampton’s particular tendency to propose numerous repeals in the General Assembly without any consideration for the wider fallout of their careless actions, leading to consequences ranging from the loss of swaggy WA-sponsored merchandise (Repeal: “World Assembly Official Merchandise”) to genocidal war criminals evading capture (Repeal: “Convention on Law Enforcement for Heinous Crimes”),

Disappointed at Tinhampton’s vicious “verbal Feng Shui” tactic, in which Tinhamptonian ambassadors prey on inexperienced authors by offering to rewrite their General Assembly drafts to make them more “acceptable”, an attempt to further the Tinhamptonian agenda and gain further legitimacy in these chambers whilst throwing newer authors under the bus should things go awry,

Recognising that Tinhampton’s shenanigans in the Security Council have not fared much better, with the devious WA department frequently flooding its chambers with trite such as wishy-washy virtue-signalling declarations on equality and self-determination as well as commendations and condemnations for ‘hot topic of the day nations’ with no lasting international legacy, all opportunistic attempts to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something worthy of debate,

Stunned that, despite having the ignominy of proposing a record-breaking 26 defeated-at-vote proposals, Tinhampton has taken it upon themselves to operate an archive of every defeated Security Council proposal ever in a desperate attempt to profit off their own failures and secure their infamy,

Distraught at Tinhampton’s forays into the world of sports, which include:
  1. granting ‘independence’ to their ex-colony Saint Eleanor, when in reality the Tinhamptonian government control the nation as a puppet state and concentrate their sports resources there; Saint Eleanor, a disgustingly luxurious and oil-rich nation, bankrolls their leagues and national teams despite little grassroots support in an attempt to feign legitimacy in the sports world and sportswash its own misdemeanors, which led to a highly undeserved victory over Yuezhou in the 84th Cup of Harmony,
  2. exploiting the well-regarded names of The Holy Empire, Nephara, and Cassadaigua by writing commendations for them in the Security Council, which may seem well-intentioned on the surface but was actually done solely to increase Tinhampton and Saint Eleanor’s public images in the WA and sports world respectively,

Understanding that Tinhampton’s insatiable hunger for glory led to them seeking the WA Delegacy seat in multiple regions to further consolidate their WA power, including Auctor and its Tinhampton-founded successor Sophia,

Admonishing Tinhampton’s leadership of Sophia, where they ran the region down to a derelict wasteland and graveyard for fledgling nations to support Tinhampton’s ballooning cult of nationality; this resulted in a shell of a region whose only purpose is to grant Tinhampton greater legitimacy and power in international affairs and push their heinous agendas,

Abhorring Tinhampton for stirring up conflict in foreign nations before swooping in and ‘solving’ issues, a twisted and sovereignty-violating method to grasp at what straws of recognition and legitimacy they could find, which included exaggerating drug abuse problems in the ‘One in the Arm for Leader?’ incident and exploiting taxation loopholes regarding holy texts in the ‘Profitable for Doctrine’ incident,

Believing that Tinhampton’s reckless quest for soft power has wreaked havoc on an international scale, and that a condemnation from this body would bring a halt to their calamitous clout chase,

Hereby condemns Tinhampton.
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Postby The Ice States » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:38 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:Since competing condemns are all the rage right now...

Ooc: I want to note that, as stated in the OP of my draft, (1) it was a project on the works since June; and (2) Omnicontrol agreed to withdraw their draft to facilitate mine when I informed them of it before it was even posted. The drafts are not competing, and at no point since it was posted did my draft compete with Omnicontrol's. Any particular reason that you needed to post this?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:41 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Since competing condemns are all the rage right now...

Ooc: I want to note that, as stated in the OP of my draft, (1) it was a project on the works since June; and (2) Omnicontrol agreed to withdraw their draft to facilitate mine when I informed them of it before it was even posted. The drafts are not competing, and at no point since it was posted did my draft compete with Omnicontrol's. Any particular reason that you needed to post this?

I was referencing the Millenhaal proposal vs CSB PM Union proposal on Cashdeer/Pontbridge, not you. Sorry for the confusion :(
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Postby The Ice States » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:43 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
The Ice States wrote:Ooc: I want to note that, as stated in the OP of my draft, (1) it was a project on the works since June; and (2) Omnicontrol agreed to withdraw their draft to facilitate mine when I informed them of it before it was even posted. The drafts are not competing, and at no point since it was posted did my draft compete with Omnicontrol's. Any particular reason that you needed to post this?

I was referencing the Millenhaal proposal vs CSB PM Union proposal on Cashdeer/Pontbridge, not you. Sorry for the confusion :(

Fair enough, thanks for the response. That said, I do still wonder what the reason for posting this draft is?
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Postby NEIIBC » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:51 pm

As a WA member, and newly formed leader in the region Wintreath, I concur with this draft. When it comes time to vote, I will be for it. Whatever assistance you need from NEIIBC, you will have it as I am in support of this.

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Postby Pineappleistania » Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:18 pm

I think this is quite funny. If Tin is in support of this, this is currently the superior draft in my opinion, even if produced by an inferior fruit.
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Postby Nachtlied » Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:31 pm

Yeah, I think this best captures the ethos of Tin, tbh.
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Thank you Nachtlied, the inferior pizza topping, and NEIIBC for your support.
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Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:15 am

this one is the best one and the one I'm most supportive of. a lot more personality, funniness, and unique writing. /notalgering
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:50 am

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:this one is the best one and the one I'm most supportive of. a lot more personality, funniness, and unique writing. /notalgering

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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:38 pm

hi everyone,

me and magecastle have joined forces to create a very W poggers proposal, leave ur comments
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Confirming that I am indeed co-authoring this, and support this effort.
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Honeydewistania wrote:hi everyone,

me and magecastle have joined forces to create a very W poggers proposal, leave ur comments

If you’ve read the other threads you know my opinion. Against.
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"Sporting world," not "sports world"
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Postby Quintessence of Dust » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:05 am

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Quintessence of Dust wrote:For if it makes them more likely to leave.

Against if it makes them more likely to continue and double down.

That’s not how condemns work.
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Jar Wattinree wrote:
Quintessence of Dust wrote:For if it makes them more likely to leave.

Against if it makes them more likely to continue and double down.

That’s not how condemns work.

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Honeydewistania wrote:Co-author: The Ice States

  • exploiting the well-regarded names of The Holy Empire, Nephara, and Cassadaigua by writing commendations for them in the SC, done solely to increase Tinhampton and Saint Eleanor’s public images in the WA and sports world respectively,


Considering that the co-author of the resolution did the exact same thing with the region of Atlantian Oceania, this stinks of hypocrisy of the highest order. Tinhampton at least has been involved in the sporting world with both Tinhampton and Saint Eleanor. Ice States never was.

I will note that the NS Sport Community voted overwhelmingly in favour of the resolution as we stand by our community members, including myself when the time came for me to exercise my rarely-used vote. Throughout the process I was always uncomfortable at how Ice States had come in, decided to write the resolution themself instead of letting Tin (or someone else with more experience in the sporting community) handle it.

Need more evidence for how Apatosaurus/Ice States decided to swoop into our community? It's well worth noting that when a resolution commending Cassadaigua, one of our forum members, his first response was a "Who?" If Tinhampton is guilty of this, Ice States is guilty of the same.
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At this point I will not see myself support a Tin C&C.
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Postby Ostrovskiy » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:21 am

Tumbran World Assembly Mission wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Co-author: The Ice States

  • exploiting the well-regarded names of The Holy Empire, Nephara, and Cassadaigua by writing commendations for them in the SC, done solely to increase Tinhampton and Saint Eleanor’s public images in the WA and sports world respectively,


Considering that the co-author of the resolution did the exact same thing with the region of Atlantian Oceania, this stinks of hypocrisy of the highest order. Tinhampton at least has been involved in the sporting world with both Tinhampton and Saint Eleanor. Ice States never was.

I will note that the NS Sport Community voted overwhelmingly in favour of the resolution as we stand by our community members, including myself when the time came for me to exercise my rarely-used vote. Throughout the process I was always uncomfortable at how Ice States had come in, decided to write the resolution themself instead of letting Tin (or someone else with more experience in the sporting community) handle it.

Need more evidence for how Apatosaurus/Ice States decided to swoop into our community? It's well worth noting that when a resolution commending Cassadaigua, one of our forum members, his first response was a "Who?" If Tinhampton is guilty of this, Ice States is guilty of the same.

That's kinda the point, mate (no you aren't getting the word back British people). You're supposed to exaggerate and in cases like Tin twist good into evil in a condemn. As for your second point, the only thing that matters is someone wanting to write it and nominee consent. It was for AO to decide whether they wanted Mage to write a Commend or not, and they granted permission.
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Postby PotatoFarmers » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:31 am

Ostrovskiy wrote:That's kinda the point, mate (no you aren't getting the word back British people). You're supposed to exaggerate and in cases like Tin twist good into evil in a condemn. As for your second point, the only thing that matters is someone wanting to write it and nominee consent. It was for AO to decide whether they wanted Mage to write a Commend or not, and they granted permission.

Pretty sure you missed their main point re: Commend AO, which was that not many in the NSS community was happy with The Ice States' manner of initially dealing with Commend Cassadaigua originally. I am pretty sure there are a number of people in this chamber who look at the author and say "nope", and you cannot deny that. (Not that I am one of them in this case)
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Postby Astrobolt » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:49 am

PotatoFarmers wrote:
Ostrovskiy wrote:That's kinda the point, mate (no you aren't getting the word back British people). You're supposed to exaggerate and in cases like Tin twist good into evil in a condemn. As for your second point, the only thing that matters is someone wanting to write it and nominee consent. It was for AO to decide whether they wanted Mage to write a Commend or not, and they granted permission.

Pretty sure you missed their main point re: Commend AO, which was that not many in the NSS community was happy with The Ice States' manner of initially dealing with Commend Cassadaigua originally. I am pretty sure there are a number of people in this chamber who look at the author and say "nope", and you cannot deny that. (Not that I am one of them in this case)


Wasn’t Ice States (well Apato’s at the time) response a joke? Which they even stated as much?

Nonetheless I’m also against for IC reasons.
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Postby Ostrovskiy » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:53 am

PotatoFarmers wrote:
Ostrovskiy wrote:That's kinda the point, mate (no you aren't getting the word back British people). You're supposed to exaggerate and in cases like Tin twist good into evil in a condemn. As for your second point, the only thing that matters is someone wanting to write it and nominee consent. It was for AO to decide whether they wanted Mage to write a Commend or not, and they granted permission.

Pretty sure you missed their main point re: Commend AO, which was that not many in the NSS community was happy with The Ice States' manner of initially dealing with Commend Cassadaigua originally. I am pretty sure there are a number of people in this chamber who look at the author and say "nope", and you cannot deny that. (Not that I am one of them in this case)

There'll be a number of people in this chamber for any proposal that will look at the nominee and author(s) and say no without even reading it.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:47 am

Astrobolt wrote:
PotatoFarmers wrote:Pretty sure you missed their main point re: Commend AO, which was that not many in the NSS community was happy with The Ice States' manner of initially dealing with Commend Cassadaigua originally. I am pretty sure there are a number of people in this chamber who look at the author and say "nope", and you cannot deny that. (Not that I am one of them in this case)


Wasn’t Ice States (well Apato’s at the time) response a joke? Which they even stated as much?

Nonetheless I’m also against for IC reasons.


PotatoFarmers wrote:At this point I will not see myself support a Tin C&C.



Elaboration on specific reasons will be appreciated.
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Postby Fort Concord » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:32 am

Very unlikely to support either way, but in the vein of actual advice: remove the Admonishing clause.

There's nothing C/C-able about Sophia at all, and Tinhampton writing joint recs with EoGB, or previously writing OWL recs (is that what that refers to?) for TSP isn't C/C-able either. Focus more on authorship/RP than anything else.
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