[DRAFT] Commend San Pera

[Lefona]

The Security Council,

Endlessly thankful to those that create and guide fledgling regions, helping to foster a community inside them and create an environment for all nations to grow and thrive, and recognizing San Pera, otherwise known as Sakura, as one of those very nations,

Commencing San Pera’s storied tale in the region of New West Indies (NWI), where San Pera’s satellite state, Celestiam, worked to better the region’s infrastructure and political scene by:

• Serving as the Secretary-General, helping mold NWI into a bastion of culture with their regional awards system as well as creating their Faux news system which has been known to provide factual news delivered in a comical manner, and spearheaded the creation of a series of multiple dispatches to provide information and news for NWI,
• Setting a precedent for the office of the Region’s Attorney, where they rightfully prosecuted those who violated the laws and codes of NWI in its very own judicial court, while also providing stellar legal advice and assistance to the regional government,

Awestruck by the San Pera’s contributions in the region of Atlanticana where they:

• Were a main force on a regional recruitment squad which brought up both the resident count and Delegate endorsement count up sixfold,
• Worked to define the region’s staunch defender alignment with the Atlanticana Naval Defence Organization and now the Atlanticana Skyforce. This includes San Pera’s wiseful planning in the vital liberations of Trovons and Ethernia, both allied regions to Atlanticana at the time,
• Served as Electro Archon, where they cultivated the participation of many nations in the regional world through their handiwork in assisting the chronicling of national history in sovereign states and creating the region’s official political map,
• Led a project alongside [nation=Londionopol] that would create the Atlanticanan World Assembly Regional Enterprise which has served as one of the keystones of protection for the region, safeguarding security and leading to more participation in these very halls,
• Officially penned the region’s Constitution, its supreme code, which serves a backbone of the community to this very day. In addition, San Pera worked to create the reader-accessible Atlanticana Dispatch Office which provides the citizens and residents of Atlanticana with crucial information and updates in regards to the region.

Hereby commends San Pera.

co-authors: Londionopol, Ostrovskiy, Lile Ulie Islands

[Tinhampton]

Is the target of this resolution Sakura or San Pera? Also, why did a resolution of this length need three co-authors, all of whom are resident in Atlanticana, which Pacificana (the region where you serve as WA Delegate) is a vassal state of?

Atlanticana's reboot is just getting off the ground and it's not clear that SP's contributions in NWI are commendable (i.e. there's no onsite record of Faux News and it isn't a government responsibility; nwi-gov.net is a wiki that hasn't been edited at all in the past week). I'd hold off on this until c. November 2025 ~ February 2026 if I were you.

[Londoniopol]

Is the target of this resolution Sakura or San Pera? Also, why did a resolution of this length need three co-authors, all of whom are resident in Atlanticana, which Pacificana (the region where you serve as WA Delegate) is a vassal state of?

Atlanticana's reboot is just getting off the ground and it's not clear that SP's contributions in NWI are commendable (i.e. there's no onsite record of Faux News and it isn't a government responsibility; nwi-gov.net is a wiki that hasn't been edited at all in the past week). I'd hold off on this until c. November 2025 ~ February 2026 if I were you.

Firstly, it has 3 co-authors because it had the contributions of those people. This thread is about the merits of the proposal, not the number of co-authors it might or might not have.

Secondly, the suggestion that only government initiatives are commendable is definitely an interesting statement, but that is all it is.

And thirdly, "is just getting off the ground", cause yes, clearly residents of regions are only commendable as big as their region is. Great logic.

[Hulldom]

While I’m not entirely sold just yet, this former (and current) NWIer absolutely believes Celestiam/Sakura is on the road to being commendable.

[Quebecshire]

I don't know them super well, so I'm mainly going off the draft here. I think it's quite a bit too early.

[Tinhampton]

Is the target of this resolution Sakura or San Pera? Also, why did a resolution of this length need three co-authors, all of whom are resident in Atlanticana, which Pacificana (the region where you serve as WA Delegate) is a vassal state of?

Atlanticana's reboot is just getting off the ground and it's not clear that SP's contributions in NWI are commendable (i.e. there's no onsite record of Faux News and it isn't a government responsibility; nwi-gov.net is a wiki that hasn't been edited at all in the past week). I'd hold off on this until c. November 2025 ~ February 2026 if I were you.

Firstly, it has 3 co-authors because it had the contributions of those people. This thread is about the merits of the proposal, not the number of co-authors it might or might not have.

Secondly, the suggestion that only government initiatives are commendable is definitely an interesting statement, but that is all it is.

And thirdly, "is just getting off the ground", cause yes, clearly residents of regions are only commendable as big as their region is. Great logic.

1. Thank you for the clarification. I won't be pressing this point any further.
   
   
2. The implication of the proposal is that San Pera's work in "creating their Faux news system" was part of their work as Secretary-General. If it was a private rather than state-run endeavour, that should be made clearer. (Even if it was, the vast majority of this proposal describes their "government initiatives.")
   
   
3. I do not want to break it to you like this, but Atlanticana is not a household name. To put it another way, consider the regional-leadership commends that have been issued over the past twelve months alone: Tim-Opolis, for Spiritus; Refuge Isle, for Refugia; Andusre, for Thaecia; Kazaman, Lethen, Kuramia and Istillian, each for Europeia. All of those regions are well-known to gameplayers, and have been throughout the twelve-month period. All of them have maintained hundreds of nations and a strong, consistent WA presence.
   
   Atlanticana has sixty nations and four (out of eight currently possible) endorsements on its delegate. San Pera's endorsement count last time peaked at six (which I suspect is being passed off as the "sixfold" increase in Delegate endorsements touted in the proposal). Its Constitution defines its purpose as "a rampart against bigotry, extremism, fascism, shaming, and all other forces that promote the subduing of individuals for who they are."
   
   Neither ANDO nor ASE have ever been explicitly mentioned by name in any defender update report. It's correct to say that Atlanticana was part of the Trovons coalition; that's the only reference of its defender operations I can find. It's not clear at all what kind of role San Pera played in the handover of Ethernia to Atlanticana, however. (It wasn't a military liberation: the regional Law Office nation posted on Atlanticana's thread saying he was handing over the region to Atlanticana after it was "illegally refounded.")
   
   I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a small region. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a region whose purpose is primarily social rather than military or political. Refugia was an unknown quantity in spring/summer 2020, a couple of years before Refuge was commended, and has retained its environmentalist ethos throughout its journey to prominence. I'm not saying San Pera isn't a nice person: they were one of the first foreign diplomats in Auctor (now Sophia), I appreciated their presence and internally lamented their departure. I'm not even saying I don't like Atlanticana: I do (and I've floated moving a puppet there for some time).
   
   I am saying that there will, if Atlanticana continues to grow, be a case for San Pera to be commendable. What I am also saying is that the case for commending someone who's built key regional infrastructures is weak if those infrastructures are new and they have not had a discernable impact on international affairs. Atlanticana is, in my opinion, not currently at the stage where I can support any national commendation focused on that nation's work in developing its modern incarnation. That describes my opinion on this proposal, too.

[Londoniopol]

Nice to know. We'll still continue with our efforts here. Whether the SC accepts it or not is their decision. Though it probably won't because the question here isn't whether someone is commendable, but whether they have the votes to push something through. Like for example, commend Kazaman

For the record, the increase in endorsements is a reference to my time as delegate when it peaked at 45

[Team Leo]

We should commend them, because they are aso named after a charcater in Naruto; Sakura Haruno.

[Varanius]

I don’t say this a ton but Tinhampton is pretty spot on. No support from me.

[Londoniopol]

Whatever

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

It’s a tidily written draft, but in terms of substance not so much. I can’t see anything really Commendable about the nominee. What makes them stand out from hundreds of other nations doing similar work in similar small regions? Nothing.

It pains me to agree with Tinhampton but their analysis is spot on. No support from me.

[Quebecshire]

Whatever

In the interest of giving sincere advice, I don't think this attitude will get you very far. The writing is plenty good from my glance of it, but the content is going to struggle to argue commendability (at this time). You mentioned above that it's the SC's decision to pass/decline it, and that it's about who has votes, but ultimately that's what the drafting process is for (convincing people of commendability and getting votes you can muster).

[Londoniopol]

It’s a tidily written draft, but in terms of substance not so much. I can’t see anything really Commendable about the nominee. What makes them stand out from hundreds of other nations doing similar work in similar small regions? Nothing.

It pains me to agree with Tinhampton but their analysis is spot on. No support from me.

That's the case for every commendation. Name one nominee that does something that countless other regions don't. For example the current SC resolution at vote that commends a nation for...protecting their region against an invasion because clearly no one else would do so or them accumulating a bunch of cards. Or other resolutions such as Commend Lethen that basically boils down to "did stuff as government official", as if no other government officials do similar things in their own regions. But I guess that doesn't apply for regions such as Europeia and the like

Whatever

In the interest of giving sincere advice, I don't think this attitude will get you very far. The writing is plenty good from my glance of it, but the content is going to struggle to argue commendability (at this time). You mentioned above that it's the SC's decision to pass/decline it, and that it's about who has votes, but ultimately that's what the drafting process is for (convincing people of commendability and getting votes you can muster).

Yes, the content is lacking. We can't exactly put much more content into it because regardless of how many times we ask those NWI peeps, none of them seem to be answering. In any case, we are most likely wasting our time by trying anything within this bourgeoisie institution

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

It’s a tidily written draft, but in terms of substance not so much. I can’t see anything really Commendable about the nominee. What makes them stand out from hundreds of other nations doing similar work in similar small regions? Nothing.

It pains me to agree with Tinhampton but their analysis is spot on. No support from me.

That's the case for every commendation. Name one nominee that does something that countless other regions don't. For example the current SC resolution at vote that commends a nation for...protecting their region against an invasion because clearly no one else would do so or them accumulating a bunch of cards. Or other resolutions such as Commend Lethen that basically boils down to "did stuff as government official", as if no other government officials do similar things in their own regions. But I guess that doesn't apply for regions such as Europeia and the like.

Ah, don’t like criticism eh? Yes, Commendations do include some of the boring run of the mill stuff nations do as well as the really Commendable things.

Unfortunately your nominee is only doing the run of the mill stuff.

[Tinhampton]

It’s a tidily written draft, but in terms of substance not so much. I can’t see anything really Commendable about the nominee. What makes them stand out from hundreds of other nations doing similar work in similar small regions? Nothing.

It pains me to agree with Tinhampton but their analysis is spot on. No support from me.

That's the case for every commendation. Name one nominee that does something that countless other regions don't. For example the current SC resolution at vote that commends a nation for...protecting their region against an invasion because clearly no one else would do so or them accumulating a bunch of cards. Or other resolutions such as Commend Lethen that basically boils down to "did stuff as government official", as if no other government officials do similar things in their own regions. But I guess that doesn't apply for regions such as Europeia and the like

Just because a resolution said "Testlandia did A in the context of B" does not mean that everybody who has ever done A in the contexts of C, D, E, all the way up to Z should be recognised by the SC for doing so.

In any case, we are most likely wasting our time by trying anything within this bourgeoisie institution

Nobody has said this proposal is not gathering traction because San Pera is (or is seen to be) a communist. Indeed, nobody has said that San Pera will (or should) never be Commended. What I have said - and what multiple others have said - is that, while San Pera will likely be commendable in a few years if they continue along their current trajectory of success, they are not at the stage where Commendation would be wise.

[Londoniopol]

Standard SC hypocrisy

[Team Leo]

Bro, they're named after a Naruto character. That should be enough.

[Hulldom]

Standard SC hypocrisy

Mind pointing out what the apparent double standard is? None of us is saying Celestiam can’t be commendable or won’t be, what we’re saying is that their body of work so far is just not at the bar others have reached.

[Eternal Algerstonia]

Bro, they're named after a Naruto character. That should be enough.

common team leo w

[Team Leo]

Bro, they're named after a Naruto character. That should be enough.

common team leo w

fr bro

[Londoniopol]

Standard SC hypocrisy

Mind pointing out what the apparent double standard is? None of us is saying Celestiam can’t be commendable or won’t be, what we’re saying is that their body of work so far is just not at the bar others have reached.

And I'm disputing that by stating that the only diffrence is that those people happened to be within bigger region that were able to push through the SC whatever they wanted to on the basis of "being older" and "more influential" as if that was credible criteria for basing anyone's actions upon

[Fort Concord]

Mind pointing out what the apparent double standard is? None of us is saying Celestiam can’t be commendable or won’t be, what we’re saying is that their body of work so far is just not at the bar others have reached.

And I'm disputing that by stating that the only diffrence is that those people happened to be within bigger region that were able to push through the SC whatever they wanted to on the basis of "being older" and "more influential" as if that was credible criteria for basing anyone's actions upon

Larger regions are more difficult to build, hence the correlation between region size+longevity and likely perception of commendability. Smaller regions (and people from them) are commended often, but they usually have a niche or a particular set of work. For regional examples in that regard: Gholgoth, Spiritus. For individuals, any number of RPers, or someone like The Salaxalans.

[Londoniopol]

So tougher requirements are inherently placed upon members of smaller regions for...the sake of it

[Reventus Koth]

I'm glad that this proposal made me aware of who San Pera was for the first time. Ultimately though, if the majority of everyone who reads this draft has that same "who?" reaction, the nominee might require a bit more time in the oven before the temperature is right. You yourself admitted there's not much meat on the bones of the draft due to lack of citable accomplishments.

Frankly, the feedback you got was pretty encouraging and positive and not deserving of your reaction. I had my condemnation removed and have been a relatively vocal critic of the WA's "elites" for a while now, and even I don't think I have the justification to throw this flavor of tantrum. Put some years on your career and maybe you'll earn that right.

[Londoniopol]

Yes, indeed. After all, as we all know, the actions of a nation are to be judged based on how much name recognition you have. Wonderful