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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 6:48 pm
by 0cala
Occidius wrote:
0cala wrote:the new region is Ocala, Since Ocalawaha was just straight spam, But i decided that I wanted to preserve its history and this proposal is only to keep people from getting Governor status and/or making it a frontier.

I'm gonna be honest, I don't think the international community is gonna be willing or happy to dedicate an entire voting period to preserving a spam region. You'll probably want to look into other ways to protect it - you could temporarily move WA in to get the delegacy, password the region, and then move back out? So long as you keep a puppet in there, It would avoid the de...

0cala wrote:since the only thing TWP does nowadays is harass anyone that they dont like and get away with it

Nevermind lmao that's what I get for trying to be helpful

you seem to be the only chill TWPer

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 6:56 pm
by The Ice States
If you want to preserve the RMB etc, you can save on archive.org the regional main page and various history pages, and then save the RMB using this tool.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:01 pm
by Fort Concord
The Ice States wrote:If you want to preserve the RMB etc, you can save on archive.org the regional main page and various history pages, and then save the RMB using this tool.

An easier option is to use Dot's region saver command, as well. No installs (apart from downloading the files it sends you when it saves them).

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:01 pm
by Mlakhavia
yeah bro my favourite part of the security council is where we decide to categorically bully newbies and clog their threads up with bullshit because we find them mildly annoying. real fucking mature of you.

regardless, ocala, this won't pass. don't pursue it. i'm not saying that to put you down, but just because it won't get anywhere -- that's a fact. focus on your region and ignore the SC forums for the time being.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:02 pm
by The Ice States
Fort Concord wrote:
The Ice States wrote:If you want to preserve the RMB etc, you can save on archive.org the regional main page and various history pages, and then save the RMB using this tool.

An easier option is to use Dot's region saver command, as well. No installs (apart from downloading the files it sends you when it saves them).

Nice, I was not aware of this.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:34 pm
by Ostrovskiy
Mlakhavia wrote:yeah bro my favourite part of the security council is where we decide to categorically bully newbies and clog their threads up with bullshit because we find them mildly annoying. real fucking mature of you.

regardless, ocala, this won't pass. don't pursue it. i'm not saying that to put you down, but just because it won't get anywhere -- that's a fact. focus on your region and ignore the SC forums for the time being.

0cala has been around long enough to know what a good SC proposal looks like. This isn't it.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:41 pm
by Mlakhavia
Ostrovskiy wrote:
Mlakhavia wrote:yeah bro my favourite part of the security council is where we decide to categorically bully newbies and clog their threads up with bullshit because we find them mildly annoying. real fucking mature of you.

regardless, ocala, this won't pass. don't pursue it. i'm not saying that to put you down, but just because it won't get anywhere -- that's a fact. focus on your region and ignore the SC forums for the time being.

0cala has been around long enough to know what a good SC proposal looks like. This isn't it.

Ocala's only really recently gotten involved in the forums, and probably doesn't understand the culture of the SC forums (which a lot of the time consists of people getting kicks out of putting other people down). It's unbecoming to just clog up the thread with the same repeated message because you decided that the noob of the occasion needs to be humbled so you can feel better about yourselves.

Be better.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:45 pm
by Past beans
The proposal states that the region has months of history that you do not wish to be lost in a raid.

You can quite clearly tell us what history is there.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:49 pm
by Ostrovskiy
Mlakhavia wrote:
Ostrovskiy wrote:0cala has been around long enough to know what a good SC proposal looks like. This isn't it.

Ocala's only really recently gotten involved in the forums, and probably doesn't understand the culture of the SC forums (which a lot of the time consists of people getting kicks out of putting other people down). It's unbecoming to just clog up the thread with the same repeated message because you decided that the noob of the occasion needs to be humbled so you can feel better about yourselves.

Be better.

lmao if you try to insult twp for no reason, then yes youll get trolled a little

thats the only reason i made my initial post

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:51 pm
by Mlakhavia
Ostrovskiy wrote:
Mlakhavia wrote:Ocala's only really recently gotten involved in the forums, and probably doesn't understand the culture of the SC forums (which a lot of the time consists of people getting kicks out of putting other people down). It's unbecoming to just clog up the thread with the same repeated message because you decided that the noob of the occasion needs to be humbled so you can feel better about yourselves.

Be better.

lmao if you try to insult twp for no reason, then yes youll get trolled a little

thats the only reason i made my initial post

Thank fuck TWP has you, their knight-in-shining-armour, to defend their honour against 98-post SC noobs.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:43 pm
by Dawn Denac
I normally try to not read these forums too much anymore, but this is excessive.

How about trying to retain noobs and help them grow instead of being like this?

Ain't that a wild thought. BBD at least makes the effort to generally highlight -what- is bad with a proposal.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:58 pm
by Ostrovskiy
To 0cala: I'm sorry. The people in this thread are right, I dogpiled on you badly for no reason. It's a stereotypical behavior here for new people who's proposals aren't the best. It was unnecessary, mean-spirited, unhelpful in any way, and not even original. It hasn't been long at all since I knew as much or even less about the SC as you do, and I feel ashamed about my comments earlier today. I sincerely hope you can forgive me.

Sincerely,
Ostro

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 9:44 pm
by Reventus Koth
Ostrovskiy wrote:To 0cala: I'm sorry. The people in this thread are right, I dogpiled on you badly for no reason. It's a stereotypical behavior here for new people who's proposals aren't the best. It was unnecessary, mean-spirited, unhelpful in any way, and not even original. It hasn't been long at all since I knew as much or even less about the SC as you do, and I feel ashamed about my comments earlier today. I sincerely hope you can forgive me.

Sincerely,
Ostro

As an outsider only lurking in this thread until now, I'll chime in only to give you props for doing the right thing here. It's easy to get caught up in dogpiles and hard to admit that it's not always the best thing to do.

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:56 pm
by Bhang Bhang Duc
I can understand the personal investment in a region, but it’s one that’s only just over 200 days old and has twelve pages of RMB post that are mostly spam or suppressed.

The draft itself is not well written and gives no compelling reason that the region should be preserved; compelling that is to the SC.

If this did get to the vote then I can almost guarantee it would fail.

You do get credit for drafting here first - I would suggest you read Westinor’s “Security Council Guide” pinned in this forum for ideas on how to improve.

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:29 am
by Sacred Butterfinger
Greater Rostoria wrote:As a proud TNPer

My opinion and suggestion is that you do not pursue this, because it is bad. It will fail, and we will laugh. Thanks!

1. Read the room. No one asked Irrelevance Incarnated VII to join in on the dogpile.
2. Your nation is in TEP. Maybe you have a puppet somewhere, but I honestly could not care less.

Great try at being a forum bully, though!

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:08 am
by Millenhaal
I should probably say sorry for starting the chain, despite my egging it on. I didn’t mean for it to become a dogpile like it did. However, I still stand by that this isn’t worth pursuing.

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:41 am
by 0cala
I probably won't submit this. I will focus on other proposals.

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:43 am
by 0cala
Thanks for helping anyways!

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2023 11:11 am
by Westinor
Best of luck in the future, 0cala. I appreciate your efforts to draft, and they'll be fruitful if you truly put your effort to it. If you need help, please don't feel afraid to reach out!! Hope to see you around ^-^

[DRAFT II] Injunct Ocalawaha

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 3:45 pm
by 0cala
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Injunct Ocalawaha

Proposed by: 0cala, Edited & Co-Authored by The Ambis.


Nominee: Ocalawaha.
Type: Injunction
Author: 0cala
Co-Author(s): The Ambis


Updated and in progress, just didnt want to update the original forum draft.
The Security Council,

Introducing, the region of Ocalawaha which was originally founded in 2021 by Wikidot and then founded in November of 2022 by Na2, the region also lost its Governor status in April 2023 by a fatal and foolish accident. The region also has a meaningful and precious history to the natives, which could be lost due to the lack of Border Officers by unwanted visitors in the near future.

Noting, that Ocalawaha has no Governor or Border Officers ruling over it, making it vulnerable to Raids, and refounding Ocalawaha will destroy its history and have a risk of being refounded by others if not quick enough to refound it in the near future, and that the natives asked to not refound Ocalawaha.

Wishing, that Ocalawaha be injuncted for the purpose of not losing the region to unwanted visitors, and to also not lose the historic and precious history adored by the natives.

Ensuring, the Natives, such as Na2, and Anarchist People, have granted permission to injunct the region, and injuncting it would preserve and save its history from being a trophy to unwanted visitors in the nearby future. And if Ocalawaha was ever injuncted, the natives would be satisfied and happy.

Hereby Injuncts Ocalawaha.

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 3:46 pm
by 0cala
Reserved

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:42 pm
by United Calanworie
You get one thread per proposal, you don't get to start multiple. Threads merged.

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:42 pm
by 0cala
my bad :(

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 5:00 pm
by Reventus Koth
What made you want to return to this draft, if you don't mind me asking?

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2023 5:04 pm
by Earth 2 By Name 0
0cala wrote:
Injunct Ocalawaha

Proposed by: 0cala, Edited & Co-Authored by The Ambis.


Nominee: Ocalawaha.
Type: Injunction
Author: 0cala
Co-Author(s): The Ambis


Im looking for Opinions and Suggestions.
The Security Council,

Recognizing, That Ocalawaha has been founded by Na2 in November of 2022, lost Governor status in April 2023 by accident, has had a lot of history which could be lost due to lack of Border Officers.

Noting, that Ocalawaha has no Governor or Border Officers ruling over it, making it vulnerable to Raids, and refounding Ocalawaha will destroy its history and have a risk of being refounded by others if not quick enough to refound it.

Wishing, that Ocalawaha be injuncted for the purpose of not losing it in a raid, with the consequence of losing Months worth of progress and history.

Ensuring, the Natives, such as Na2, and Anarchist People, have granted permission to injunct Ocalawaha, and injuncting Ocalawaha would preserve and save its history from being destroyed by attackers in the future.

Hereby Injuncts Ocalawaha


Good Proposal. Name 0 will vote for For.

- E2 BY NAME 0, NAME 0IAN ALT