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[DEFEATED] Liberate Canada

Postby Epithemia » Thu May 04, 2023 1:15 pm

I observe this brief proposal in the wild. Discuss.

First Nightmare wrote:The World Assembly,

Enraged at Canada, an ancient and important region rich with history, being locked by hostile forces,

Liberates Canada.


I don't imagine anyone has asked for the support of Canada's native residents?
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Postby Occidius » Thu May 04, 2023 2:02 pm

Not sure there's a whole lot to actually discuss about this single line resolution.
I could see it being brought to vote for the craic, though. That'd be pretty funny for a day or so.
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Postby Parkplace » Thu May 04, 2023 2:12 pm

Epithemia wrote:I observe this brief proposal in the wild. Discuss.

First Nightmare wrote:The World Assembly,

Enraged at Canada, an ancient and important region rich with history, being locked by hostile forces,

Liberates Canada.


I don't imagine anyone has asked for the support of Canada's native residents?

Of course not.
Canadian native residents were not contacted to discuss an approval for this proposal. This proposal does not have Canada's support.
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Postby Oogway » Thu May 04, 2023 2:16 pm

Well there you have it. Opposed.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Thu May 04, 2023 2:32 pm

As this lacks support from the native nations of the targeted region, we respectfully urge a vote against.

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Greaditzerikarthee
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Postby Greaditzerikarthee » Thu May 04, 2023 5:19 pm

didn't canada NOT want to be liberated? they are just basically accepting their fate

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Postby Dawn Denac » Thu May 04, 2023 7:56 pm

Epithemia wrote:I observe this brief proposal in the wild. Discuss.

First Nightmare wrote:The World Assembly,

Enraged at Canada, an ancient and important region rich with history, being locked by hostile forces,

Liberates Canada.


I don't imagine anyone has asked for the support of Canada's native residents?


Likely because Canada's native residents requested Libcord not bother.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri May 05, 2023 4:18 am

No support from Canada? No support from me.
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Postby Coronational Chechyans and affiliates » Fri May 05, 2023 5:31 am

I endorsed solely because we need to start condensing proposals. I am so tired of nonsense fluff and buzzwords where it takes ten minutes to get to the actual proposal

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Postby Improper Classifications » Fri May 05, 2023 5:51 am

Coronational Chechyans and affiliates wrote:I endorsed solely because we need to start condensing proposals. I am so tired of nonsense fluff and buzzwords where it takes ten minutes to get to the actual proposal

Even if that were the widespread opinion, using one line to sum up reasons to liberate a region with years of history is not the way to go about it.
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Postby Langersland » Fri May 05, 2023 8:45 am

As a proud Canadian since literally a month ago, I strongly object to this bill.
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Postby Coronational Chechyans and affiliates » Fri May 05, 2023 3:41 pm

Improper Classifications wrote:
Coronational Chechyans and affiliates wrote:I endorsed solely because we need to start condensing proposals. I am so tired of nonsense fluff and buzzwords where it takes ten minutes to get to the actual proposal

Even if that were the widespread opinion, using one line to sum up reasons to liberate a region with years of history is not the way to go about it.


I would rather have this those stupid run on proposals

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Postby The Ice States » Fri May 05, 2023 3:48 pm

Does this have native consent?
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Postby 0cala » Fri May 05, 2023 4:37 pm

Opposed, too short and it'll make the WA look bad, kinda like WA Historical Resolution #5

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Postby Bowzin » Fri May 05, 2023 4:40 pm

The Ice States wrote:Does this have native consent?

Parkplace wrote:
Epithemia wrote:I observe this brief proposal in the wild. Discuss.



I don't imagine anyone has asked for the support of Canada's native residents?

Of course not.
Canadian native residents were not contacted to discuss an approval for this proposal. This proposal does not have Canada's support.

This was posted earlier in the thread by the native delegate of Canada.
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Postby The Ice States » Fri May 05, 2023 4:54 pm

Bowzin wrote:
The Ice States wrote:Does this have native consent?

Parkplace wrote:Of course not.
Canadian native residents were not contacted to discuss an approval for this proposal. This proposal does not have Canada's support.

This was posted earlier in the thread by the native delegate of Canada.

My bad, then, opposed.
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Postby First Nightmare » Fri May 05, 2023 10:01 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Bowzin wrote:
This was posted earlier in the thread by the native delegate of Canada.

My bad, then, opposed.

Canada is locked and natives who wanted to stay were banned and removed. The former delegate is irrelevant at this very point.

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Postby Quebecshire » Fri May 05, 2023 10:03 pm

First Nightmare wrote:
The Ice States wrote:My bad, then, opposed.

Canada is locked and natives who wanted to stay were banned and removed. The former delegate is irrelevant at this very point.

Absurd position. The "former" Delegate is who will be reinstated once the occupation is over. It's clear you're proceeding with utter disregard for what Canada actually wants.
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Postby First Nightmare » Fri May 05, 2023 10:29 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
First Nightmare wrote:Canada is locked and natives who wanted to stay were banned and removed. The former delegate is irrelevant at this very point.

Absurd position. The "former" Delegate is who will be reinstated once the occupation is over. It's clear you're proceeding with utter disregard for what Canada actually wants.

That's still ok! It's a historically important region that shouldn't be locked down as a raider recruitment poster even if the current people of canada wanted to do that.

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Postby Quebecshire » Fri May 05, 2023 10:33 pm

First Nightmare wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:Absurd position. The "former" Delegate is who will be reinstated once the occupation is over. It's clear you're proceeding with utter disregard for what Canada actually wants.

That's still ok! It's a historically important region that shouldn't be locked down as a raider recruitment poster even if the current people of canada wanted to do that.


It's locked because raiders locked in and sat there in a pout/tantrum-esque reaction to not being able to transition it into a Frontier and back with themselves as the new Governor. They have admitted this was there strategy in multiple places. Since Canada was injuncted, this is not possible anymore.

It is mathematically infeasible for them to destroy Canada unless they want to stay for many, many months. Even more with their pile being half the size it used to be.

You're clearly ignorant to those factors, but besides, it is Canada's native community which gets to decide what happens with Canada, not some random.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sat May 06, 2023 4:52 am

Quebecshire wrote:It's locked because raiders locked in and sat there in a pout/tantrum-esque reaction to not being able to transition it into a Frontier and back with themselves as the new Governor.
You're really overestimating the amount of emotional damage the Injuction did. :p
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Postby La Xinga » Sun May 07, 2023 7:37 pm

Frankly, probably the only proposal which I have read fully in years.

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Postby Aicrowian Canada » Mon May 08, 2023 9:13 am

Ok this is bad, VERY BAD

This lacks everything needed for a SC proposal
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Epithemia
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Postby Epithemia » Wed May 10, 2023 11:20 am

Parkplace et al, it appears that this proposal is in queue. If you don't want it to come to a vote, it might be necessary to campaign against it. I imagine that should it reach a vote it will pass.

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Postby The Ambis » Wed May 10, 2023 11:32 am

For the record, I will be voting against, it and fully expect it to fail. No proposal should pass without native consent.
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