[PASSED] Repeal "Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls"

[Goobergunchia]

Fine, I'll do it myself.

I'll keep this short. Thank you to those previously exploring this for letting Writinglegend and I take over this project. My argument is simple. Souls' legacy is one of dogmatism, alienation, and liability. He is neither efficient nor fearsome, and therefore he is not condemnable. While Luca wrote a fantastic proposal in terms of writing and narrative, the nominee's merits do not stack up and it is proper for the Security Council to revoke his badge.

Discuss. All feedback is welcome, as is standard.

The Security Council,

Reiterating that condemnation by this august body is one of the highest forms of punitive recognition a nation can receive for villainy and subversion,

Acknowledging the prior passage of [resolution=SC#326]Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls[/resolution] (Souls), which sought to condemn the nominee for their many years as a figure in raiding,

Respecting that the writing of SC#326 is excellent and up to modern standards of quality, though nevertheless unconvinced that the nominee is deserving of recognition by the Security Council for their alleged misdeeds,

Recognizing that SC#236 mentions Souls’ involvement and leadership in numerous raiding organizations, though contending that their career in the multiverse is primarily viewed through their role in The Black Hawks specifically,

Questioning the relevance of the “Iterating” clause, as ensuring the destruction of The Black Riders and “denying [them] any chance at salvation” is not a condemnable act given The Black Riders’ reputation as a repulsive organization which has been forever removed from the plane of existence by divine intervention,

Asserting that Souls’ leadership of The Black Hawks was, on the whole, detrimental to raiderdom due to their advancement of the parasitic and self-defeating “Raider Unity” ideology. Under Souls’ leadership, the Council of Hawks exploited and attempted to vassalize other raider organizations, notably the iteration of HYDRA at the time, decidedly making Souls’ style of leadership damaging to raider objectives,

Recalling that Souls has played a major role in the political alienation of imperialist and Independent regions from supporting invaders, where regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Balder, previously reliable supporters of invasions, were pushed away from raiderdom by Souls’ dogmatic and antagonistic demeanor, thereby adding significantly to the political crisis faced by raiderdom today,

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated brutality, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions, especially when said intentions were brought to the public eye, such as:

• Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,
  
• A series of intelligence and subversion operations planned by another organization Souls holds commanding rank in, targeting multiple regions, most notably Balder, which were unsuccessful and abandoned due to poor planning and execution on all fronts, such incompetence and the subsequent public fallout further isolating raider regions in the public discourse,

Delighted that many founded regions were further protected against permanent damage and seizure as a result of Souls’ diplomatic folly. Due to the loss of support from many imperialist and Independent groups, liberating coalitions and their allies have found passing preventative liberations to be of relative ease with minimal controversy, in part thanks to diplomatic repulsion by raiders encouraging more moderate regions to support these measures,

Concluding that while the target resolution is well articulated, Souls lacked ability, efficiency and tactful calculation while leading The Black Hawks, ultimately undermining their own ill-intended goals, dismantling their suitability for condemnation,

Affirming that while Souls held several positions in raiding high command over several years, their contributions to raiderdom have undoubtedly been feeble and that of a cosmic liability, and therefore,

Hereby repeals SC 326 “Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls”.

Co-author: Writinglegend

[Quebecshire]

The Security Council,

Reiterating that condemnation by this august body is one of the highest forms of negative recognition a nation can receive for villainy and subversion,

Acknowledging the prior passage of [resolution=326]Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls[/resolution] (Souls), which sought to condemn the nominee for their many years as a figure in raiding,

Respecting that the writing of SC#326 is excellent and up to modern standards of quality, though nevertheless unconvinced that the nominee is deserving of recognition by the Security Council for their stated contributions,

Recognizing that SC#236 mentions Souls’ involvement and leadership in numerous raiding organizations, though contending that their career in the multiverse is primarily viewed through their role in The Black Hawks specifically,

Questioning the relevance of the “Iterating” clause, as ensuring the destruction of The Black Riders and “denying [them] any chance at salvation” is not a condemnable act given The Black Riders’ reputation as a repulsive organization which has been forever removed from the plane of existence by divine intervention,

Asserting that Souls’ leadership of The Black Hawks was, on the whole, detrimental to raiderdom due to their advancement of the parasitic and self-defeating “Raider Unity” ideology. Under Souls’ leadership, the Council of Hawks exploited and attempted to vassalize other raider organizations, notably the iteration of HYDRA at the time, decidedly making Souls’ style of leadership damaging to raider objectives,

Recalling that Souls has played a major role in the political alienation of imperialist and Independent regions from supporting invaders, where regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Balder, previously reliable supporters of invasions, were pushed away from raiderdom by Souls’ dogmatic and aggressive demeanor, thereby causing the political crisis faced by raiderdom today,

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated efficiency, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions, especially when said intentions were brought to the public eye, such as:

• Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,
  
• An intelligence and overthrow-oriented operation coined “Ragnarok” where infiltrators were deployed to Balder by another raider organization in which Souls holds a position of leadership. This operation was quickly abandoned due to poor planning and political concerns, demonstrating lesser firm and ambitious follow-through than that which would be expected from a villainous and condemnable nation,

Concluding that while the target resolution is well articulated, Souls lacked ability, efficiency and tact while leading The Black Hawks, ultimately undermining their own ill-intended goals, dismantling their suitability for condemnation,

Affirming that while Souls held several positions in raiding leadership in recent years, their contributions to raiderdom have undoubtedly been feeble and that of a cosmic liability, and therefore,

Hereby repeals SC 326 “Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls”.

The Security Council,

Reiterating that condemnation by this august body is one of the highest forms of punitive recognition a nation can receive for villainy and subversion,

Acknowledging the prior passage of [resolution=326]Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls[/resolution] (Souls), which sought to condemn the nominee for their many years as a figure in raiding,

Respecting that the writing of SC#326 is excellent and up to modern standards of quality, though nevertheless unconvinced that the nominee is deserving of recognition by the Security Council for their alleged misdeeds,

Recognizing that SC#236 mentions Souls’ involvement and leadership in numerous raiding organizations, though contending that their career in the multiverse is primarily viewed through their role in The Black Hawks specifically,

Questioning the relevance of the “Iterating” clause, as ensuring the destruction of The Black Riders and “denying [them] any chance at salvation” is not a condemnable act given The Black Riders’ reputation as a repulsive organization which has been forever removed from the plane of existence by divine intervention,

Asserting that Souls’ leadership of The Black Hawks was, on the whole, detrimental to raiderdom due to their advancement of the parasitic and self-defeating “Raider Unity” ideology. Under Souls’ leadership, the Council of Hawks exploited and attempted to vassalize other raider organizations, notably the iteration of HYDRA at the time, decidedly making Souls’ style of leadership damaging to raider objectives,

Recalling that Souls has played a major role in the political alienation of imperialist and Independent regions from supporting invaders, where regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Balder, previously reliable supporters of invasions, were pushed away from raiderdom by Souls’ dogmatic and antagonistic demeanor, thereby causing the political crisis faced by raiderdom today,

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated brutality, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions, especially when said intentions were brought to the public eye, such as:

• Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,
  
• An intelligence and overthrow-oriented operation coined “Ragnarok” where infiltrators were deployed to Balder by another raider organization in which Souls holds a position of leadership. This operation was quickly abandoned due to poor planning and political concerns, demonstrating lesser firm and ambitious follow-through than that which would be expected from a villainous and condemnable nation,

Delighted that many founded regions were further protected against permanent damage and seizure as a result of Souls’ diplomatic folly. Due to the loss of support from many imperialist and Independent groups, liberating coalitions and their allies have found passing preventative liberations to be of relative ease with minimal controversy, in part thanks to diplomatic repulsion by raiders encouraging more moderate regions to support these measures,

Concluding that while the target resolution is well articulated, Souls lacked ability, efficiency and tactful calculation while leading The Black Hawks, ultimately undermining their own ill-intended goals, dismantling their suitability for condemnation,

Affirming that while Souls held several positions in raiding high command over several years, their contributions to raiderdom have undoubtedly been feeble and that of a cosmic liability, and therefore,

Hereby repeals SC 326 “Condemn Ever-Wandering Souls”.

[Tinhampton]

I will only support this if a Commend Ever-Wandering Souls is forthcoming.

[WayNeacTia]

My argument is simple. Souls' legacy is one of dogmatism, alienation, and liability. He is neither efficient nor fearsome, and therefore he is not condemnable. While Luca wrote a fantastic proposal in terms of writing and narrative, the nominee's merits do not stack up and it is proper for the Security Council to revoke his badge.

But apparently I'm the one who is toxic....

[RemiorKami]

No support ever no matter what happens to this proposal.

This is just another high-ranking defender trying to rip away a well-deserved badge just because souls' is a feared raider.

[Pallaith]

Nice job, and quite persuasive. Full support.

[Platoon of Peace]

So your early repeal argument is that they are an jerk, and yet you passed something about a guy who is widely regarded as a toxic jerk? You can't do a 180 every time it benefits you, Quebec.

[Honeydewistania]

Support due to coauthor, despite author

[Quebecshire]

So your early repeal argument is that they are an jerk, and yet you passed something about a guy who is widely regarded as a toxic jerk? You can't do a 180 every time it benefits you, Quebec.

That was not my argument, and my proposal is entirely in-character based, unlike the character assassination attempts at Tim. Happy to clarify anything for you.

[Minskiev]

Big if true

[Platoon of Peace]

So your early repeal argument is that they are an jerk, and yet you passed something about a guy who is widely regarded as a toxic jerk? You can't do a 180 every time it benefits you, Quebec.

That was not my argument, and my proposal is entirely in-character based, unlike the character assassination attempts at Tim. Happy to clarify anything for you.

My argument is simple. Souls' legacy is one of dogmatism, alienation, and liability.

You quite literally stated you think that he is someone who doesn't listen to facts and is a jerk to others through isolation.

[Minskiev]

That was not my argument, and my proposal is entirely in-character based, unlike the character assassination attempts at Tim. Happy to clarify anything for you.

My argument is simple. Souls' legacy is one of dogmatism, alienation, and liability.

You quite literally stated you think that he is someone who doesn't listen to facts and is a jerk to others through isolation.

Quebec didn't "quite literally state" that Souls "doesn't listen to facts and is a jerk to others through isolation." I'll read it for you.

"Souls' legacy is one of dogmatism, alienation, and liability".

Nowhere is facts mentioned in your quoted section, and you interpret alienation as "being a jerk and isolating others". This is inconsistent with both the context and reality broadly. Nothing about alienating people is "jerkish" to the SC, Quebec is just saying it's a bad trait for an NSer to possess, especially a condemned nation, he believes. Outside of the context, alienation is ambivalent in meaning. Some people deserve alienation. So I really don't see why you're saying he "quite literally states" what you claim.

P.S. @Quebec it says SC#236 at one point, when it's SC#326.

[Quebecshire]

P.S. @Quebec it says SC#236 at one point, when it's SC#326.

Thank you, fixed.

[Malicious Souls]

If each outright falsehood in this "resolution" was another updater, then you might actually have a decent shot at liberating Equestria tonight, instead of just malding over it publicly, in the only way y'all can.

[Quebecshire]

If each outright falsehoodin this "resolution" was another updater, then you might actually have a decent shot at liberating Equestria tonight, instead of just malding over it publicly, in the only way y'all can.

Don't worry, we'll be there at update too. We just have range.

[Frenchy II]

This resolution is a purposeless potshot built on a foundation of propaganda being spewed by moralists who refuse to step into their own Geneva. Let's take a walk through it.

Asserting that Souls’ leadership of The Black Hawks was, on the whole, detrimental to raiderdom due to their advancement of the parasitic and self-defeating “Raider Unity” ideology. Under Souls’ leadership, the Council of Hawks exploited and attempted to vassalize other raider organizations, notably the iteration of HYDRA at the time, decidedly making Souls’ style of leadership damaging to raider objectives,

I think it's quite funny to hear a defender talking about this. Raiderdom was successful in that time period, and additionally, that vassalization was never quite the case. Nor is pinning this on Souls historically accurate! Ultimately a few things went on here: Someone had to save raiding post-predator and Souls did that.

Recalling that Souls has played a major role in the political alienation of imperialist and Independent regions from supporting invaders, where regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Balder, previously reliable supporters of invasions, were pushed away from raiderdom by Souls’ dogmatic and aggressive demeanor, thereby causing the political crisis faced by raiderdom today,

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated efficiency, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions, especially when said intentions were brought to the public eye, such as:

• Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,
  
• An intelligence and overthrow-oriented operation coined “Ragnarok” where infiltrators were deployed to Balder by a raider organization in which Souls holds a position of leadership. This operation was quickly abandoned due to poor planning and political concerns, demonstrating lesser firm and ambitious follow-through than that which would be expected from a villainous and condemnable nation,

Political gobbledygook. Raiding has still been successful regardless of this.

Concluding that while the target resolution is well articulated, Souls lacked ability, efficiency and tact while leading The Black Hawks, ultimately undermining their own ill-intended goals, dismantling their suitability for condemnation,

Affirming that while Souls held several positions in raiding leadership in recent years, their contributions to raiderdom have undoubtedly been feeble and that of a cosmic liability, and therefore,

Souls is not a liability. I've always been quick to criticize given attitudes towards scripts and net loss and all that bullshit. The fact is that in a post-predator era, Souls had adequately stood in and kept raiding alive!

The biggest piece that makes this resolution a joke, is that it ignores the real meat of this resolution and just claims inefficiency! It's one thing if you can dissect it piece by piece and say "well all this shit didn't matter, no natives were terrorized, end of story." The fact is that you cannot do that! It doesn't work! Again, this repeal is a political potshot, not a real statement or show of force.

Quebec: Let a motherfucking sleep dog lie.

[Varanius]

Quebec: Let a motherfucking sleep dog lie.

Regardless of what you think of the proposal, to depict souls as a sleeping dog would be inaccurate. Souls is clearly an active character in NSGP, why should he not be treated as one? The WA has previously removed badges for disagreeable IC actions, why would Souls be exempt from this? If it is for activity concerns (which I assume you mean when you refer to him as sleeping) then I’d point you to the recent Equestria raid. Souls is an active political figure in Nationstates, why should he not be treated like one?

[Napaqaq]

I wouldn’t support this due to the fact he’s an invader.

I’m well aware that they prey upon fascists, but they pray on completely innocent regions as well. I also generally don’t like his actions.

[Frenchy II]

Quebec: Let a motherfucking sleep dog lie.

Regardless of what you think of the proposal, to depict souls as a sleeping dog would be inaccurate. Souls is clearly an active character in NSGP, why should he not be treated as one? The WA has previously removed badges for disagreeable IC actions, why would Souls be exempt from this? If it is for activity concerns (which I assume you mean when you refer to him as sleeping) then I’d point you to the recent Equestria raid. Souls is an active political figure in Nationstates, why should he not be treated like one?

1. The resolution is a sleeping dog. The actions within the proposal is a sleeping dog. I wasn't necessarily referring to Souls that way.

2. The precedent for this resolution is there. That does not mean that I don't think that the precedent is disgraceful (and always have!).

[Valtarre]

Simply stated, The Ever-Wanderer is one of the greatest raiders of all time. This proposal, which we all knew was in development if not on paper then in theory since the repeal of my own condemnation, is simply not one that exists based on the subject's lack of merit. It is, rather, a response to an abundance of merit, a testament to his effectiveness and legacy, that he is so much of a threat on the battlefield that the only way to take him down a peg is in the Security Council. It is no coincidence that as soon as The Brotherhood of Malice returns with another operation in Equestria, the concerted effort to remove any recognition of the most prominent and storied raiders from the halls of legacy comes back to international attention. Suspension of disbelief cannot be stretched far enough to fathom that this proposal is no mere agendapost.

Even just taking his time in The Brotherhood of Malice alone, a mere sliver of his career, he has been the leadership backbone of every major occupation this year, beating the record for the largest raid in NationStates history. His understanding of raiding mechanics and dedication to performing mathematical calculations that near-guarantee success on the battlefield when acted upon has been invaluable for years, to multiple organizations. This poorly presented insult to his talent should be abandoned before the author's sycophants break their arms patting themselves on the back. Especially the contemptible co-author, Writinglegend, who Souls wasted an unfortunate amount of his career supporting as a player.

Here is a sampling of outright fabrications on display in this proposal:

Asserting that Souls’ leadership of The Black Hawks was, on the whole, detrimental to raiderdom due to their advancement of the parasitic and self-defeating “Raider Unity” ideology. Under Souls’ leadership, the Council of Hawks exploited and attempted to vassalize other raider organizations, notably the iteration of HYDRA at the time, decidedly making Souls’ style of leadership damaging to raider objectives,

This clause seems to identify Souls as solely responsible for the creed of raider unity, which is both anachronistic and frankly ridiculous. It is also immediately defeated by the authors undermining his commitment to raider unity by (wrongly) implying he was responsible for attempting to vassalize HYDRA. The Council of Hawks collectively entertained the idea of merging with HYDRA, and the idea was discarded when their asks in turn were deemed incompatible with our vision for The Black Hawks. None of this is a valid reason to revoke the condemnation.

EDIT: I previously attested that the proposal came from HYDRA, but I don't remember clearly enough to know that for sure. I've edited that, but the point is that overall it's just an irrelevant tale.

Recalling that Souls has played a major role in the political alienation of imperialist and Independent regions from supporting invaders, where regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors and Balder, previously reliable supporters of invasions, were pushed away from raiderdom by Souls’ dogmatic and aggressive demeanor, thereby causing the political crisis faced by raiderdom today,

I'd like to see any sort of citation for this. You can't just pin the entire 2022 political zeitgeist on a guy who has hardly said anything in public all year. If Pallaith wanted to put this line his repeal of my condemnation, it would look at least a little less ridiculous, but he didn't, and your agenda is showing. Souls, for the vast majority of his career, was far more supportive of independent regions and organizations than he should have been, going as far as to author Europeia's commendation out of a genuine desire to shine a light on what he for some reason believed to be a great region. If anyone deserves their badge to be removed for dogmatic and aggressive demeanor, it's not the mild-mannered Souls, it's the author's most recent commendation subject.

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated efficiency, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions

A complete and total fabrication. He is one of the most efficient raiders in history, an unparalleled engine of raider activity that has been critical to almost every major occupation he's been involved with in the last few years. You writing this proposal was enough provocation for him to immediately go and add 15 or so more nations to our pile in Equestria. This entire clause is just a way of padding the character count to introduce two more fabrications:

Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,

A nothingburger then, and a nothingburger now. A raider loudly musing that it would be nice if a defender feeder would be toppled is not the same as crafting a plan and ever intending on executing it. I understand, however, that this is the one exaggerated tale that defenders have been heavily invested in blowing out of proportion for years in an effort to ruin the reputation of their most talented nemesis. I would not expect the authors to pull back on this point, even though the co-author was present in the same channel when all of this happened yet somehow has escaped all negative press for it. Funny how that works.

An intelligence and overthrow-oriented operation coined “Ragnarok” where infiltrators were deployed to Balder by a raider organization in which Souls holds a position of leadership. This operation was quickly abandoned due to poor planning and political concerns, demonstrating lesser firm and ambitious follow-through than that which would be expected from a villainous and condemnable nation,

Once again, Brother Rax never gets the credit for his ideas. Souls was not even present in the Ragnarok channel, and was not informed of its existence until after the leak. If one reads this clause carefully, they will notice that the authors accounted for this known fact, but somehow they hold him accountable for not being villainous enough to follow through. With an operation that was leaked by a traitor. Just strike this line, it's frankly embarrassing.

Concluding that while the target resolution is well articulated, Souls lacked ability, efficiency and tact while leading The Black Hawks, ultimately undermining their own ill-intended goals, dismantling their suitability for condemnation,

Souls is the most able and efficient leader in the long history of The Black Hawks. The one thing I'll allow is that he was not the most tactful. Unless you'd like to cite literally any reason why this isn't the case, it's a waste of a line.

Affirming that while Souls held several positions in raiding leadership in recent years, their contributions to raiderdom have undoubtedly been feeble and that of a cosmic liability, and therefore,

Souls is an invaluable asset to raiderdom, and our faction is better when he's active in it. This proposal has done nothing to argue against his many military victories, which have only increased in the years since the passing of this resolution. Of all the raiders in all of history, going back to the very beginning, Souls is my #1 draft pick, every time. He's the greatest raider of all time. And he deserves better than this low-effort draft.

[Goobergunchia II]

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated efficiency, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions, especially when said intentions were brought to the public eye, such as:

• Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,
  
• An intelligence and overthrow-oriented operation coined “Ragnarok” where infiltrators were deployed to Balder by a raider organization in which Souls holds a position of leadership. This operation was quickly abandoned due to poor planning and political concerns, demonstrating lesser firm and ambitious follow-through than that which would be expected from a villainous and condemnable nation,

My issue with this part of the argument is that it is very GCR-centric, while the target resolution focuses on Souls's attacks on UCRs. There's no real evidence presented that they don't pose a threat to UCRs as demonstrated by the target. If the lack of Independent support is causing operational failures against UCRs then I'd like to see an example or two or three. It's important to me that terrorizing innocent UCR natives is Condemnable by itself.

And yes, I'm okay if that includes examples that haven't happened at the time of this message.

[Malicious Souls]

If each outright falsehoodin this "resolution" was another updater, then you might actually have a decent shot at liberating Equestria tonight, instead of just malding over it publicly, in the only way y'all can.

Don't worry, we'll be there at update too. We just have range.

I stand corrected. You would have needed about 4 or 5 updaters for every factual lie, in order to have had a chance.

I suppose it is inefficient of me to have about a hundred more pilers than we need to hold this op. Guilty as charged.

[WayNeacTia]

So your early repeal argument is that they are an jerk, and yet you passed something about a guy who is widely regarded as a toxic jerk? You can't do a 180 every time it benefits you, Quebec.

That was not my argument, and my proposal is entirely in-character based, unlike the character assassination attempts at Tim. Happy to clarify anything for you.

Q, you wouldn't know an "In-Character" argument, even if it walked up on the street and introduced itself, while wearing a giant name tag. Most people who are making in-character argument, at least TRY to convince people it is an in character argument, by making it come from their Ambassador or shit like that. Not you. You fire a full broadside, get called on it, and claim "and my proposal is entirely in-character based, unlike the character assassination attempts at Tim". Tim isn't even mentioned in this proposal, yet you just have to bring him up. Maybe you should try rehab, because it is quite clear you are way too addicted to that drug Senator McCarthy.

[Quebecshire]

Dissatisfied with the claim that Souls is condemnable in nature, as nations which are most deserving of the designation are those which operate with unmitigated efficiency, whereas, in the rare instances where they have produced a viable scheme, Souls has often failed to follow through on their proclaimed nefarious intentions, especially when said intentions were brought to the public eye, such as:

• Hiding from the public eye almost completely in the aftermath of the “Red Phone” intelligence disclosures. Souls repeatedly asserted their interest in subverting and eventually destroying the South Pacific’s legitimate government in these declassified documents, but refused to expend their own effort and later retreated from answering for their boasts,
  
• An intelligence and overthrow-oriented operation coined “Ragnarok” where infiltrators were deployed to Balder by a raider organization in which Souls holds a position of leadership. This operation was quickly abandoned due to poor planning and political concerns, demonstrating lesser firm and ambitious follow-through than that which would be expected from a villainous and condemnable nation,

My issue with this part of the argument is that it is very GCR-centric, while the target resolution focuses on Souls's attacks on UCRs. There's no real evidence presented that they don't pose a threat to UCRs as demonstrated by the target. If the lack of Independent support is causing operational failures against UCRs then I'd like to see an example or two or three. It's important to me that terrorizing innocent UCR natives is Condemnable by itself.

And yes, I'm okay if that includes examples that haven't happened at the time of this message.

This is a wonderful suggestion, Goober, thank you. I'll be happy to look into this more and find a UCR-related example that fits this qualification.

[Khewresh Sebza]

Would this body's time not be better served by voting on a panicked and hastily-drafted liberation of Equestria? I thought that was the recent MO when a region is raided with no apparent plans to attempt a refound.

I hope the good delegates of the Security Council understand the existential threat to Equestria's long-term security posed by this proposal, recognize it for the stalling tactic it is, and vote on a liberation rather than a repeal before it is too late.

For The Natives.

- NPU