[DRAFT] Condemn Sweeze

[Improper Classifications]

The Security Council,

Observing the actions of Sweeze to further the advancement of Lily's tagging and raiding operations that of which have already been condemned as a whole by this Council,

Abhorred by the statistics of Sweeze’s tags, which include 6019 regions tagged over 67 updates, on the official Lily Hall of Fame, that of which granted them the title of Supreme Command in that region, which is impressive if not disturbing,

Noting the tagging prowess drawn from the technologies developed by Sweeze, including
- SweezeBreeze, the powerful tagging extension for NationStates which allows its users to simply use hotkeys to tag regions instead of pressing built-in buttons on the user page normally, and its extensions such as Feather
- The technology known as “Swarm”

Noting that while the author of this resolution is a raider themself, Sweeze’s actions transcend the barrier between the ideologies of raiders and defenders,

Saddened for the 6000+ regions tagged and/or captured under their command,

Hereby condemns Sweeze.

[The Orwell Society]

I believe this is illegal on several fronts… firstly being your mention of “tagging”, “updates”, “hot keys”, and “buttons”. 2a, perhaps. Secondly, there’s not enough meat in this proposal, doesn’t make a good enough argument for a condemnation in my opinion. Opposed.

[Improper Classifications]

I see, I'll go back and rework it

[Sweeze]

wow im famous

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I believe this is illegal on several fronts… firstly being your mention of “tagging”, “updates”, “hot keys”, and “buttons”. 2a, perhaps. Secondly, there’s not enough meat in this proposal, doesn’t make a good enough argument for a condemnation in my opinion. Opposed.

As usual you are wrong on some points - a read of the rules may help there.

Overall though the draft is pretty crap, poorly written and researched. To the OP, please try harder.

[The Orwell Society]

I believe this is illegal on several fronts… firstly being your mention of “tagging”, “updates”, “hot keys”, and “buttons”. 2a, perhaps. Secondly, there’s not enough meat in this proposal, doesn’t make a good enough argument for a condemnation in my opinion. Opposed.

As usual you are wrong on some points - a read of the rules may help there.

Overall though the draft is pretty crap, poorly written and researched. To the OP, please try harder.

I did read the rules… does this proposal not present a 2a violation? A little refresher…

NationStates game: Proposals cannot refer to the game, or events or actions in it, as part of a game

Tagging and updates are indeed part of the game, and mentioning Nationstates with it (though in itself legal) doesn’t help its case)

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

As usual you are wrong on some points - a read of the rules may help there.

Overall though the draft is pretty crap, poorly written and researched. To the OP, please try harder.

I did read the rules… does this proposal not present a 2a violation? A little refresher…

NationStates game: Proposals cannot refer to the game, or events or actions in it, as part of a game

Tagging and updates are indeed part of the game, and mentioning Nationstates with it (though in itself legal) doesn’t help its case)

Missed this bit didn’t you.

Tag" (and other variants - "tagging", "detagging" etc.) - legal when referring to the raider/defender practices.

Do try harder...

[The Orwell Society]

I did read the rules… does this proposal not present a 2a violation? A little refresher…



Tagging and updates are indeed part of the game, and mentioning Nationstates with it (though in itself legal) doesn’t help its case)

Missed this bit didn’t you.

Tag" (and other variants - "tagging", "detagging" etc.) - legal when referring to the raider/defender practices.

Do try harder...

My apologies, but you can’t just dismiss the rest. How is referring to the server’s updates even remotely legal, or a script’s hotkey function?

[Improper Classifications]

Well, this makes me glad now that I posted this
Thanks for the feedback and I'll be back soon with a better version

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Missed this bit didn’t you.

Tag" (and other variants - "tagging", "detagging" etc.) - legal when referring to the raider/defender practices.

Do try harder...

My apologies, but you can’t just dismiss the rest. How is referring to the server’s updates even remotely legal, or a script’s hotkey function?

Didn’t say it was. I just said your analysis wasn’t completely correct.

[Minskiev]

Maybe doable? Would be very technically difficult, I think. Probably worse than Condemn Lily, and that wasn't a cakewalk.

[Improper Classifications]

Maybe doable? Would be very technically difficult, I think. Probably worse than Condemn Lily, and that wasn't a cakewalk.

That does not make me feel any better about this but I will try anyway thanks

[Improper Classifications]

Maybe doable? Would be very technically difficult, I think. Probably worse than Condemn Lily, and that wasn't a cakewalk.

That does not make me feel any better about this but I will try anyway thanks

Yeah, I guess the main problem is that so much of Sweeze's infamy roots from mechanics and not actual other actions

[Minskiev]

I would say it's more of how difficult it is to successfully argue that Sweeze's adeptness at tagging is condemnable, since (and this may be completely wrong!) I don't remember if Sweeze has done anything additional that would add to her case. Now, she may very well be the best tagger of all time, but it's if you can argue that she's so good at tagging that she significantly influences R/D by herself. Condemn Lily was easier in that regard, because Lily undoubtedly achieved that.

[Lile Ulie Islands]

I'm not going to say that I am totally opposed to this, however, Lily isn't the worst of raiders. I don't like raiders, I'll put that straight. However, they're not the worst of raiders. It's of a lot of Thorns and Qekitors, and such. Tag raids. But I do believe I supported Condemn Lily.

[Improper Classifications]

I'm not going to say that I am totally opposed to this, however, Lily isn't the worst of raiders. I don't like raiders, I'll put that straight. However, they're not the worst of raiders.

I'm not sure who would be worse

[Improper Classifications]

I would say it's more of how difficult it is to successfully argue that Sweeze's adeptness at tagging is condemnable, since (and this may be completely wrong!) I don't remember if Sweeze has done anything additional that would add to her case. Now, she may very well be the best tagger of all time, but it's if you can argue that she's so good at tagging that she significantly influences R/D by herself. Condemn Lily was easier in that regard, because Lily undoubtedly achieved that.

It's also the technological side of the argument, since SweezeBreeze is an extension it's difficult to state that it affected R/D without using illegal terms

[Minskiev]

I would say it's more of how difficult it is to successfully argue that Sweeze's adeptness at tagging is condemnable, since (and this may be completely wrong!) I don't remember if Sweeze has done anything additional that would add to her case. Now, she may very well be the best tagger of all time, but it's if you can argue that she's so good at tagging that she significantly influences R/D by herself. Condemn Lily was easier in that regard, because Lily undoubtedly achieved that.

It's also the technological side of the argument, since SweezeBreeze is an extension it's difficult to state that it affected R/D without using illegal terms

This is very easy. Just say "weapon".

[Improper Classifications]

It's also the technological side of the argument, since SweezeBreeze is an extension it's difficult to state that it affected R/D without using illegal terms

This is very easy. Just say "weapon".

Oh lol
Sorry I'm a bit new at this

[Lile Ulie Islands]

I'm not going to say that I am totally opposed to this, however, Lily isn't the worst of raiders. I don't like raiders, I'll put that straight. However, they're not the worst of raiders.

I'm not sure who would be worse

The Black Hawks, Suspicious, The Brotherhood of Malice, The Tungsten Order

[Improper Classifications]

I'm not sure who would be worse

The Black Hawks, Suspicious, The Brotherhood of Malice, The Tungsten Order

It's quality over quantity, then?

[Lile Ulie Islands]

The Black Hawks, Suspicious, The Brotherhood of Malice, The Tungsten Order

It's quality over quantity, then?

Most of the times, yes.

[The Orwell Society]

I'm not sure who would be worse

The Black Hawks, Suspicious, The Brotherhood of Malice, The Tungsten Order

Suspicious isn’t a raiding org. It’s a jump point for several raiding orgs. And I’m not sure the Tungsten Order is in really a threat… it’s basically just one nation from what I’ve seen.

[Improper Classifications]

It's quality over quantity, then?

Most of the times, yes.

I feel like affecting over 6k regions is more effective in getting your raiding name out there than just malicifying, like, 500, but you do you
I guess also regions like TBH and TBOM have more history rooted in raiding

[Lile Ulie Islands]

The Black Hawks, Suspicious, The Brotherhood of Malice, The Tungsten Order

Suspicious isn’t a raiding org. It’s a jump point for several raiding orgs. And I’m not sure the Tungsten Order is in really a threat… it’s basically just one nation from what I’ve seen.

Well for Suspicious, technically. I listed TTO because they keep raiding my region, and getting rid of all embassies (quite a few), and do other stupid stuff.