(Retracted)Repeal SCR #263

[The Civitas Islands]

Target Resolution: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2

The Security Council,

Acknowledging the terrors of fascist ideologies, and Believing that any attempt to promote fascism and similar ideologies should be treated with hostility;

Understanding that the target resolution is nearly four years old, and that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators has vastly changed, as well as the state of the world as a whole;

Realizing that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators does not maintain any embassies with Nazi regions, fascist regions, or any region promoting an "ideology of hate";

Further Realizing that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators maintains embassies with many democratic regions, many of which are pillars of free speech and diversity;

Observing that the regional government of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators is widely democratic, allowing all member states within its borders the opportunity to participate freely in government affairs, and that the makeup of the regional Government is quite politically diverse;

Further Observing that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators strictly prohibits extreme ideologies such as fascism, which is much greater action than many self-described "Democratic" regions have undertaken in the matter;

Noting the diversity of government styles of member nations within the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, as well as embracing cultural sensitivity regionwide;

Further Noting that the existence of the Levastok Pact, a large alliance of Socialist member states, within the Confederation government, as well as the Labor party nearly winning the last election, demonstrates vast anti-fascist sentiment within regional politics;

Clarifying that the Imperialist Monarchy style of the regional leadership is not fascist, and is considered a popular ideology across many parts of the world;

Understanding that the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators is a region of significant size and has an active founder, and that a liberation of the region was not only unnecessary, but out of place, even at the time of the liberations passing, and that a condemnation would have been more appropriate, assuming the original intent was even valid at the time;

Respecting the desire of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators to better itself in the eyes of the world community, having the determination to persevere even through the darkest days of its existence, and having the willpower to change for the greater good;

HEREBY REPEALS SCR #263.

[The Orwell Society]

This is a very promising draft, actually. Decently well-written, but I still see some areas worthy of notice to improve. But I am afraid that this proposal will recieve a ton of opposition. I myself will have to abstain from supporting it until I further research CCD's past and present operations.

[The Civitas Islands]

This is a very promising draft, actually. Decently well-written, but I still see some areas worthy of notice to improve. But I am afraid that this proposal will recieve a ton of opposition. I myself will have to abstain from supporting it until I further research CCD's past and present operations.

"I understand your hesitation. May I be the first to invite you to see for yourself what the Confederation is all about, and I welcome any feedback on the legislation you may have."

[Refuge Isle]

You thoroughly lost the ability to remove this when your region counter-campaigned against the only legitimate politician willing to take up the case.

Snowball's chance in hell of getting that through now.

[The Civitas Islands]

You thoroughly lost the ability to remove this when your region counter-campaigned against the only legitimate politician willing to take up the case.

Snowball's chance in hell of getting that through now.

""I'd like to remind the ambassador that this was nearly two years ago, and that the circumstances have changed rather significantly."

[Refuge Isle]

You thoroughly lost the ability to remove this when your region counter-campaigned against the only legitimate politician willing to take up the case.

Snowball's chance in hell of getting that through now.

""I'd like to remind the ambassador that this was nearly two years ago, and that the circumstances have changed rather significantly."

Like what? I still see Shrew is still your delegate and WA councillor. Looks like Joco is still active and around. Looks like you still have yikes embassies.

Keen to hear your exciting new developments

[The Civitas Islands]

""I'd like to remind the ambassador that this was nearly two years ago, and that the circumstances have changed rather significantly."

Like what? I still see Shrew is still your delegate and WA councillor. Looks like Joco is still active and around. Looks like you still have yikes embassies.

Keen to hear your exciting new developments

"From what I understand of the last repeal attempt, it appears Shrew campaigned against it due to the language, not of the intent. While I disagree with that decision, I respect that the whole point of repealing this awful liberation is to remove this branding of nazis from our region. I can assure you, we are not nazis, and have zero tolerance for racism and hate.

May I ask which embassies you are referring to as 'yikes'?"

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Look forward to seeing TNP quorum raid this should it even get within sniffing distance of a vote.

[The Civitas Islands]

Look forward to seeing TNP quorum raid this should it even get within sniffing distance of a vote.

"What a better way to fight against the truth and democracy, than to resort to such tactics for nothing more than to protect a sense of pride. I would rather we begin to cease the egotistical battles of old and begin mending bonds."

[Scherzinger]

"As a former member of the CCD to was framed and forced to depart, i can assure you that the CCD is not genuine in their attempts at 'change' as long as shrew and joco continue to be in positions of power in that region, nothing will change about them. You might be able to suppress it and keep it out of public forums and discussions, but I have seen first hand what happens behind the scenes. The CCD operates on hypocrisy, (legitimate) corruption, treachery, and deceit. So long as joco and shrew are in any way, shape, or form, running the show, I will continue to make every (legal) effort possible to keep the CCD from reversing any restrictions imposed upon it."

"If i believed in voting, i would vote against this if it makes quorum. And i implore other sensible councilors to do the same"

[The Orwell Society]

Seeing as the target resolution is a useless liberation (you should've put that in the title), I would support a repeal. Liberations should not be put into place when the region in question has an active founder. But the intent in which this proposal is repealing for, I still have to abstain, as supporting this would mean supporting CCD, and they're not quite yet worthy of forgiveness. I did a little reading, and my stance stays the same.

[Tinhampton]

This MAY have been worth my backing when the author was still a representative of the Republic of Allied States. As it stands, nae support, ya wee cheeky bastard.

[The Civitas Islands]

"As a former member of the CCD to was framed and forced to depart, i can assure you that the CCD is not genuine in their attempts at 'change' as long as shrew and joco continue to be in positions of power in that region, nothing will change about them. You might be able to suppress it and keep it out of public forums and discussions, but I have seen first hand what happens behind the scenes. The CCD operates on hypocrisy, (legitimate) corruption, treachery, and deceit. So long as joco and shrew are in any way, shape, or form, running the show, I will continue to make every (legal) effort possible to keep the CCD from reversing any restrictions imposed upon it."

"If i believed in voting, i would vote against this if it makes quorum. And i implore other sensible councilors to do the same"

"Shrew is not in a position of power in terms of regional government, merely the WA Delegate, so there is that.

Regarding the operations of the regional government, corruption, treachery, and deceit are staples of politics around the world, and regardless of how one feels about such things, it is a far cry different from being a nazi.

While I understand you have personal grievances with the Confederation government, and a strong opinion on the way some things are handled within said government, that does not make the members of this region fascist or nazi.

Your personal history with the Confederation is your own business, and I respect your right to hold a grudge. However, for the rest of the ambassadors listening, do not confuse personal petty squabbles with the actual intent of the legislation we are discussing.

We are discussing a liberation resolution calling our a region for being openly fascist and consorting with nazis, neither of which is true in any way, shape, or form. I ask that this respected Council keep to the substance of the debate at hand and leave personal feelings aside. This is to include past dealings between the Confederation and other regions, most notably the North Pacific.

This is not the time and place to re-hash old battles between personal rivalries. This is a time to review the substance of the matter we are tasked with."

[The Civitas Islands]

This MAY have been worth my backing when the author was still a representative of the Republic of Allied States. As it stands, nae support, ya wee cheeky bastard.

"As a representative of the Republic of Allied States, my opinion regarding this liberation was the same, and it has only gotten stronger having spent time here in the Confederation. This region is not deserving of the stain of being labeled as a nazi region. I believe this Council is better than resorting to such harsh measures over personal squabbles, particularly when the Confederation has gone to such lengths to show the world that we are not what our enemies have labeled us."

The Republic of Allied States was my attempt at founding a new region. While it went well for a while, I realized what it lacked was a sense of community to foster a respectable RP style regional government. This is something I have long desired since my time as serving in many leadership capacities in the Union of Allied States. My search for this took me to the CCD, which fosters that sense of community very well. I have found a good home among these people, and it is actually quite a fun time. I am seeking to remove this repeal because this region does not deserve to be labeled as nazis and facists, and I am doing what I can to spread that message.

[The Civitas Islands]

Seeing as the target resolution is a useless liberation (you should've put that in the title), I would support a repeal. Liberations should not be put into place when the region in question has an active founder. But the intent in which this proposal is repealing for, I still have to abstain, as supporting this would mean supporting CCD, and they're not quite yet worthy of forgiveness. I did a little reading, and my stance stays the same.

"I am sorry you are not convinced. My offer for you to meet the people that this liberation so wrongly accuses of being nazis and fascists still stands."

[The Orwell Society]

Shrew is not in a position of power in terms of regional government, merely the WA Delegate, so there is that.

Shrew literally has every single power you can give them. I checked the admin page. That's a lie.

[Cappedore]

"If this proposal makes it to the voting halls, what's next? A repeal of the KAISERREICH liberation? It would seem to fall under the standards of this proposal."

[The Civitas Islands]

Shrew is not in a position of power in terms of regional government, merely the WA Delegate, so there is that.

Shrew literally has every single power you can give them. I checked the admin page. That's a lie.

OOC: Yes in terms of admin privileges, but not in actual regional government. I did not lie. I mean what I say. The WA delegate has no authority in the imperial senate, and does not take part in regional politics. As a member of the Imperial council, she is there as a last resort if the RP government breaks down. Sorry for the confusion.

[The Civitas Islands]

"If this proposal makes it to the voting halls, what's next? A repeal of the KAISERREICH liberation? It would seem to fall under the standards of this proposal."

"I cannot speak for this region, as I have not spent any time here. However, if they display that the reasons for their liberation are no longer valid, whatever those may be, then sure, they are no longer deserving of the liberation. The same goes with condemnations and commendations. A nation or region who was once commended for doing good in the world can no longer be suitable for that commendation if they change for evil."

[WayNeacTia]

It always amazes me how many people are willing to commit political suicide over this. The only way that liberation will ever be repealed, is if that region is in the hands of antifascist forces looking to refound it. I really wouldn’t waste the 1.50 campaigning for this….

[The Civitas Islands]

It always amazes me how many people are willing to commit political suicide over this. The only way that liberation will ever be repealed, is if that region is in the hands of antifascist forces looking to refound it. I really wouldn’t waste the 1.50 campaigning for this….

"I am obligated to try, because it's the right thing to do. Nobody should be forced to carry the mark of a nazi and a fascist when they are clearly not one."

[WayNeacTia]

It always amazes me how many people are willing to commit political suicide over this. The only way that liberation will ever be repealed, is if that region is in the hands of antifascist forces looking to refound it. I really wouldn’t waste the 1.50 campaigning for this….

"I am obligated to try, because it's the right thing to do. Nobody should be forced to carry the mark of a nazi and a fascist when they are clearly not one."

Then try away. I would be prepared for a whole lot of disappointment to flow your way....

[The Civitas Islands]

"I am obligated to try, because it's the right thing to do. Nobody should be forced to carry the mark of a nazi and a fascist when they are clearly not one."

Then try away. I would be prepared for a whole lot of disappointment to flow your way....

"Disappointment is a part of life, and an even bigger part of politics. If this respected establishment cannot see past their prejudices, then all I have lost is my time and effort. My conscience remains clear."

[Tinhampton]

All I do is step away from the computer to start a new game of Football Manager Handheld 2013 for what feels like the first time in five years for a couple of hours and all of a sudden Civvie's only gone and submitted it. (I've led Juve Stabia to a valliant zero-points-out-of-nine start, for what it's worth.)

For the author: Why did you believe that two hours was a sufficent drafting period for a controversial-by-definition proposal authored by a resident of the affected region?

[The Civitas Islands]

All I do is step away from the computer to start a new game of Football Manager Handheld 2013 for what feels like the first time in five years for a couple of hours and all of a sudden Civvie's only gone and submitted it... why did you believe that 2.5 hours was a sufficent drafting period for a controversial-by-definition proposal authored by a resident of the affected region?

(I've led Juve Stabia to a valliant zero-points-out-of-nine start, for what it's worth.)

"Because it's not the language of the proposal that is being challenged. It is the intent. Discussions over intent can happen during the proposal phase."