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Postby Nepleslia » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:07 pm

Were this even remotely funny, it’d be cringe; as it’s not, it’s just… sad.

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Postby Varanius » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:07 pm

Lol. Perhaps a bit too far, but the reactions from some are way overblown. If Apato is gonna attempt to engage in gameplay arguing and trolling, he shouldn’t be immune from the response so that. An escalation? Sure. But calm down, honestly.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:23 pm

Chingis wrote:I will only support this if it comes packaged with a Condemn Apato, followed by a declaration on Apatosaurus.

I'll do you one better - I'll Liberate The Snakes from its tyrannical rule
Varanius wrote:Lol. Perhaps a bit too far, but the reactions from some are way overblown. If Apato is gonna attempt to engage in gameplay arguing and trolling, he shouldn’t be immune from the response so that. An escalation? Sure. But calm down, honestly.


Too true. Yes, it's probably a bit much. But if someone decides to air dirty laundry and attack people in a public channel as the first thing that person does when returning from 'retirement', you can't say the reverse isn't at least a little deserved.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:28 pm

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Look closer at the exalts line ;)

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Postby Fachumonn » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:29 pm

Wascoitan wrote:I agree with MJ and astro (never thought I'd say those words in that order, heh), while apato certainly isn't always the most logical of people, writing a passive-aggressive WA resolution to publicly mock him is too far, and it's extremely disappointing to see people continuing to perpetuate this weird culture of ragging on apato that gp seems to have developed.

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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:30 pm

OOC:

I honestly have no hate against Apato, probably since I just drop by the forums for WA stuff and never dedicate the time to have a casual talk with otters on the forums. However, I am pointing out the flaws and cracks of this proposal with a bit of a strong IC tone, but with no intentions to murder anyway one OOCly, if you get what I’m saying.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:31 pm

Anne of Cleves in TNP wrote:OOC:

I honestly have no hate against Apato, probably since I just drop by the forums for WA stuff and never dedicate the time to have a casual talk with otters on the forums. However, I am pointing out the flaws and cracks of this proposal with a bit of a strong IC tone, but with no intentions to murder anyway one OOCly, if you get what I’m saying.

I'm not planning on submitting this, so you don't have to worry about the implications of celebrating a repealed GA proposal :)
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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:41 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:RECOGNISES Apatosaurus’ beginnings as The Python, being part of vibrant defender communities such as The Snakes and Chicken Overlords.

No.

Honeydewistania wrote:APPLAUDS Apatosaurus for their immense counterintelligence operations, such as by successfully infiltrating notorious raider regions such as Lily and The East Pacific to prevent their incursions into native communities.

FURTHER APPLAUDS Apatosaurus for infiltrating condemned raider region Lone Wolves United, which helped to uncover a dangerous deep cover spy within the Senate of the Pacific, preventing the subversion of the ancient region and ensuring the New Pacific Order could live on.

PRAISES Apatosaurus for helping to uphold the high standards of this august assembly through engaging in fruitful debates regarding the subjectivity of words such as ‘substantial’ and the correct usage of full stops in World Assembly resolutions.

Yeah ok, I did some dumb things as a noob over a year ago. So?

Honeydewistania wrote:CLAPS ITS HANDS at Apatosaurus for indisputably hardcarrying The Free Nations Region’s World Assembly affairs, by issuing recommendations authored by, containing citations by, and aligning with Apatosaurus’ vote, ensuring that Apatosaurus could vote in favour of their resolutions.

:roll:

Honeydewistania wrote:LAUDS Apatosaurus for their authorship of "Access to Life-Ending Services", which prompted the World Assembly to construct euthanasia clinics within the World Assembly Headquarters, ensuring that ambassadors who endured previous debates regarding punctuation could obtain quick pain relief.

A very strange potshot, especially seeing as that resolution was rather quickly replaced.

Honeydewistania wrote:EXTOLLS Apatosaurus for further authoring proposals such as "Factory Farming Ban", which promoted moral decency by restricting the right of World Assembly denizens to obtain fried chicken, and "Repeal: "Safety and Integrity in Conflict Journalism"", which pointed out a critical flaw in which citizens brutally murdering journalists was not explicitly prohibited by the resolution.

Well, 79% of the WA disagrees with you that that isn't an argument for repeal. :roll: Heavens forbid I write a resolution that you disagree with.

Honeydewistania wrote:EXALTS the sauropods of Apatosaurus for overcoming their lack of fingers to produce impressive pieces of creative writing, such as the majority of the content (derogatorily labelled filler by less culturally appreciative nations) in their Security Council proposal to commend LadyRebels, as well as an exposé detailing the infiltration of impostors within national governments.

LIONISES Apatosaurus for helping to expose the corruption of previously esteemed nations such as Varanius, by revealing the nation’s hypocrisy through a well-researched dossier, and well-known raider Honeydewistania, by retaliating against their pathetic colonisation of The Snakes by capturing Honeydewistania.

Also very... strange potshots.

Honeydewistania wrote:JUMPS IN JOY at Apatosaurus for continuing to advocate for just causes, such as:
  • the right of medically trained obstetricians to refuse their duty to provide abortions for all,
  • the denunciation of so-called defenders for their invasion of NationStates,
  • standing up to the insidious nation of former Pharaoh of Osiris Tim-Opolis, and continuing to defend the legitimacy of the deposed Pharaoh The Almighty Jesus Whale, an esteemed nation who most definitely was not corrupt and going to coup the region themselves.

Heavens forbid I disagree with you.
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Postby Aivintis » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:41 pm

This is very mean-spirited. We get it - you're salty that Apato didn't agree with you in the WA. You don't need to waste your time writing an insulting joke resolution about it. Especially after he's moved on and has retired from NS.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:46 pm

Aivintis wrote:This is very mean-spirited. We get it - you're salty that Apato didn't agree with you in the WA. You don't need to waste your time writing an insulting joke resolution about it. Especially after he's moved on and has retired from NS.

Moved on and retired? He literally just made the post directly above yours.
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Postby Aivintis » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:05 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Aivintis wrote:This is very mean-spirited. We get it - you're salty that Apato didn't agree with you in the WA. You don't need to waste your time writing an insulting joke resolution about it. Especially after he's moved on and has retired from NS.

Moved on and retired? He literally just made the post directly above yours.

He only made that post because he was referenced in this resolution. He resigned from all his positions, left the WA, stopped writing entirely, and left FNR. This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.

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Postby Fachumonn » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:09 pm

Aivintis wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Moved on and retired? He literally just made the post directly above yours.

He only made that post because he was referenced in this resolution. He resigned from all his positions, left the WA, stopped writing entirely, and left FNR. This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.

Actually while very questionable and stupid... this resolution did not bring him back. Only Apato knows what did that.
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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:11 pm

Aivintis wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Moved on and retired? He literally just made the post directly above yours.

He only made that post because he was referenced in this resolution. He resigned from all his positions, left the WA, stopped writing entirely, and left FNR. This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.

For the record, I resurrected shortly before this.
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Postby Varanius » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:20 pm

Aivintis wrote:This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.
This is incorrect. The first thing Apato did upon his return was immediately begin to go after multiple people, which actually began several days ago. This did not bring him back. He came back, fully of his own volition, to begin sniping in my SC proposal thread, and arguing with people on the discord. While this is certainly an escalation, to pretend Apato was simply going about his business and was then attacked out of the blue just isn’t an accurate belief.
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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:28 pm

Varanius wrote:
Aivintis wrote:This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.
This is incorrect. The first thing Apato did upon his return was immediately begin to go after multiple people, which actually began several days ago. This did not bring him back. He came back, fully of his own volition, to begin sniping in my SC proposal thread, and arguing with people on the discord. While this is certainly an escalation, to pretend Apato was simply going about his business and was then attacked out of the blue just isn’t an accurate belief.

I assume getting sniped at for nothing except resurrecting is not being 'attacked out of the blue'? Also, yeah, I posted concerns regarding Commend Bran Astor, while your response was just a potshot, but potshots only matter when I'm the one doing them.
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Postby Aivintis » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:37 pm

Fachumonn wrote:
Aivintis wrote:He only made that post because he was referenced in this resolution. He resigned from all his positions, left the WA, stopped writing entirely, and left FNR. This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.

Actually while very questionable and stupid... this resolution did not bring him back. Only Apato knows what did that.

Ah my bad, thank you for correcting me.

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Postby Varanius » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:38 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:
Varanius wrote: This is incorrect. The first thing Apato did upon his return was immediately begin to go after multiple people, which actually began several days ago. This did not bring him back. He came back, fully of his own volition, to begin sniping in my SC proposal thread, and arguing with people on the discord. While this is certainly an escalation, to pretend Apato was simply going about his business and was then attacked out of the blue just isn’t an accurate belief.

I assume getting sniped at for nothing except resurrecting is not being 'attacked out of the blue'? Also, yeah, I posted concerns regarding Commend Bran Astor, while your response was just a potshot, but potshots only matter when I'm the one doing them.

I could go into detail about the exact reasons I was suspicious of the validity and good faith behind your concern, but honestly I have better ways to spend my time. I don’t feel the need to get into a debate regarding my concerns on whether or not someone is engaging in good faith with the person I believe is not engaging in good faith. It would be a waste of my time to entertain an argument with someone who seemingly revived their nation solely to attempt to make a go at an SC proposal simply because I authored it. I probably won’t really be posting too much further in this thread, and I likely won’t be addressing the majority of your “concerns”, as they are had seemingly only by you. If you’d like to talk to me, I’m always available on discord. But until I have any reason to believe your posts responding to and about me are made in good faith, I see no reason to respond to them past this point.
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Postby Alfonzo » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:41 pm

Everyone stop engaging in this thread please. This charade has gone on long and is very petty and childish. Anything you all got to say here won’t change the core of this thread, just let it die honestly.
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Against due to use of "august Assembly." It's June dammit, get the month right.
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Postby South Asians » Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:17 pm

C'mon man. The guy took a break after being publicly bullied. This is like stabbing a dead corpse. At least have some mercy on this guy and for the sake of his mental health, leave him alone. I know it's too much to ask from a community that has been called toxic by many of its own members.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:40 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:
Aivintis wrote:He only made that post because he was referenced in this resolution. He resigned from all his positions, left the WA, stopped writing entirely, and left FNR. This brought him back. The fact that provoking him brought him back doesn't mean that he wasn't gone in the first place.

For the record, I resurrected shortly before this.

Several days before this. Why lie about public information?
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Postby Sparsdan » Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:10 am

Toxic children trying to be funny. Ridiculous. Get a life and stop bullying others.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:28 am

South Asians wrote:C'mon man. The guy took a break after being publicly bullied. This is like stabbing a dead corpse. At least have some mercy on this guy and for the sake of his mental health, leave him alone. I know it's too much to ask from a community that has been called toxic by many of its own members.


This is certainly a very... creative way of interpreting that chain of events.
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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:47 am

Let’s just shut this thread down so that some people can’t be verbally fighting OOCly.
The overall opinion on this proposal is very clear by now.
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