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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun May 22, 2022 7:04 pm

Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa

Give it a fucking break. A lot of those so called “terrorists” are also defenders who defended Japan last time it was occupied.
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Postby Fremenilia » Sun May 22, 2022 7:23 pm

And use fascism as an excuse for any of their raiding. I oppose this because of their work in it.
(Though from what I've seen fascism is accurate at least to some degree in this case.)
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Postby Princess Rainbow Sparkles » Mon May 23, 2022 12:13 pm

Infidel State wrote:Dont see why we should let these raiders leave Layem to invade more democratic regions. No support.

Actually, this is a fair point. If part of the appeal of this whole operation (see here) was how the Black Hawks and other raiders are using their normally-wicked powers for good by targeting undesirable fascists, then why not leave the region liberated so those same raiders cannot close up shop and move on to raiding innocent regions?

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Postby Andusre » Mon May 23, 2022 12:19 pm

Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa

The words of someone whose region is next on the list of those to be cleansed from existence, with assistance from The Security Council of course :)
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon May 23, 2022 1:09 pm

Infidel State wrote:Dont see why we should let these raiders leave Layem to invade more democratic regions. No support.

So this argument boils down to "raiders bad." Also, Layem is far from democratic but regardless of that, very problematic.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon May 23, 2022 1:50 pm

Princess Rainbow Sparkles wrote:
Infidel State wrote:Dont see why we should let these raiders leave Layem to invade more democratic regions. No support.

Actually, this is a fair point. If part of the appeal of this whole operation (see here) was how the Black Hawks and other raiders are using their normally-wicked powers for good by targeting undesirable fascists, then why not leave the region liberated so those same raiders cannot close up shop and move on to raiding innocent regions?

A lot of raiders are busy with this operation, yes, but so are a lot of the defenders and independents that stop raids.

If you go through all the organizations that are tied up in Layem right now, then look at the ones that are the least tied up / not tied up at all, raiders are in good shape elsewhere.

So, honestly, if you're worried about raiders raiding innocent regions, you don't want the operation in Layem to last longer. You'll want this to pass so most of the folks that defend against raiders can get back to doing exactly that.
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Postby Miravana » Mon May 23, 2022 4:45 pm

Princess Rainbow Sparkles wrote:
Infidel State wrote:Dont see why we should let these raiders leave Layem to invade more democratic regions. No support.

Actually, this is a fair point. If part of the appeal of this whole operation (see here) was how the Black Hawks and other raiders are using their normally-wicked powers for good by targeting undesirable fascists, then why not leave the region liberated so those same raiders cannot close up shop and move on to raiding innocent regions?

You realize raiders aren't required to raid layem right? We could very easily just pack up shop and move on if you "left the region liberated so we couldn't." That would of course suck, and we'd much rather close down this horrible place for good.
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Postby Fremenilia » Mon May 23, 2022 6:34 pm

Andusre wrote:
Otaku Stratus wrote:I have no idea what this resolution is even talking about, it sounds like some IC stuff. But I'm particularly troubled by this idea that the 'international community' is united under the banner of terrorist organization antifa

The words of someone whose region is next on the list of those to be cleansed from existence, with assistance from The Security Council of course :)

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Postby Waterfall State » Wed May 25, 2022 9:10 am

Repeal "Liberate Confederacy of Layem" was passed 15,215 votes to 1,152.

Thank you everyone for your votes in helping to progress the permanent pacification of this region. Thank you also to Miravana for their help in writing this proposal
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed May 25, 2022 9:14 am

Well done!
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