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Honeydewistania
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Founded: Jun 09, 2017
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun May 15, 2022 5:14 pm

New Hualonia wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:If you don't want to be associated with bigots, why do you continue to be in regions with them? It would be in your best interests to join a region that doesn't contain such problematic elements.

Most of us in Layem consider it as a friend group instead of a region. Just because we don’t agree with Maur’s views doesn’t mean that we have to unfriend him. Transphobia may be frowned upon by most of the NS community (including me) but it’s not a reason to abandon our friends :)

You should create your own region without Mauroa and others, but just with your friends. There's no need to abandon your friends unless of course the bigots are your friends.
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New King Isles
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Postby New King Isles » Sun May 15, 2022 5:15 pm

Home Box Office wrote:Stop trying to hide the misdeeds you have committed

You would know from experience, Mauroa.

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Artevenia
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Founded: Mar 28, 2018
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Postby Artevenia » Sun May 15, 2022 5:18 pm

Home Box Office wrote:Stop trying to hide the misdeeds you have committed, Artevenia. We all know who you are and you're honestly not tricking anyone on this forum. You don't fool anyone here by trying to act innocent in this situation, or even more act like you are right by calling me out. Fix your own problems before you come after me.


Excuse me, what? You are just making up stuff now. For the record, considering that I am in good standing and the regions I'm in are not anywhere near the disaster that is your region, I can safely say that it is you who is trying to deflect.
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Home Box Office
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Founded: Mar 03, 2022
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Postby Home Box Office » Sun May 15, 2022 5:22 pm

Artevenia wrote:
Home Box Office wrote:Stop trying to hide the misdeeds you have committed, Artevenia. We all know who you are and you're honestly not tricking anyone on this forum. You don't fool anyone here by trying to act innocent in this situation, or even more act like you are right by calling me out. Fix your own problems before you come after me.


Excuse me, what? You are just making up stuff now. For the record, considering that I am in good standing and the regions I'm in are not anywhere near the disaster that is your region, I can safely say that it is you who is trying to deflect.


Like I said Arty, you're acting innocent. You have the reputation you have for a reason.
Honeydewistania wrote:
New Hualonia wrote:Most of us in Layem consider it as a friend group instead of a region. Just because we don’t agree with Maur’s views doesn’t mean that we have to unfriend him. Transphobia may be frowned upon by most of the NS community (including me) but it’s not a reason to abandon our friends :)

You should create your own region without Mauroa and others, but just with your friends. There's no need to abandon your friends unless of course the bigots are your friends.


Fortunately for me my citizens know I'm not an evil villain rubbing my hands in my evil lair. I'm sorry my religion offends you. I lead my region well, and treat my citizens even better. Glory to Concord.

Using buzzwords popular in the last 10 years won't convince them of anything. Like, no one cares lol.
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Myuri
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Founded: May 13, 2022
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Postby Myuri » Sun May 15, 2022 5:24 pm

Mauroa wrote:Keep thinking I hate your or transgender people if it makes you feel any better. The region of Trans will be taken down if the Catholic region of Sanctum has its LGBTQIA propaganda removed.


What you did to Trans is why I actually read your recruitment telegram instead of just deleting it. ;)

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Home Box Office
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Postby Home Box Office » Sun May 15, 2022 5:27 pm

Myuri wrote:
Mauroa wrote:Keep thinking I hate your or transgender people if it makes you feel any better. The region of Trans will be taken down if the Catholic region of Sanctum has its LGBTQIA propaganda removed.


What you did to Trans is why I actually read your recruitment telegram instead of just deleting it. ;)


I see that certainly helped the region of trans.. lol. Now I'll just be even more careful! :P

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Artevenia
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Postby Artevenia » Sun May 15, 2022 5:28 pm

Home Box Office wrote:
Like I said Arty, you're acting innocent. You have the reputation you have for a reason.


Okay, now this is just entering slanderous territory. I am in a few regions and I am in good standing. Anyone from these regions can attest to it.

Moreover, the regions I am in are not widely shunned across the site like your region is.
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Home Box Office
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Postby Home Box Office » Sun May 15, 2022 5:32 pm

Artevenia wrote:
Home Box Office wrote:
Like I said Arty, you're acting innocent. You have the reputation you have for a reason.


Okay, now this is just entering slanderous territory. I am in a few regions and I am in good standing. Anyone from these regions can attest to it.

Moreover, the regions I am in are not widely shunned across the site like your region is.


I'm not slandering you, I'm stating fact. Layem was/is loved by dozens of regions. Maybe you should just leave your circle for once. That being said, I'd like to ask you to stop slandering me. Thank you.

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The Castle of Dark Illusions
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Founded: Mar 22, 2022
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Postby The Castle of Dark Illusions » Sun May 15, 2022 5:37 pm

If you tolerate transphobia, you are a transphobe. If you tolerate homophobia, you are a homophobe. If you tolerate racism, you are a racist.

The responses of the so called "Layemites" have only convinced me all the more that their region needs to be burned down, and has strengthened my resolve to destroy any successor regions they may try to found.
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New King Isles
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Postby New King Isles » Sun May 15, 2022 5:48 pm

Home Box Office wrote:I'm sorry my religion offends you.

Stop using Religion as an excuse. I'm A Christian and I find your actions disgusting

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Mauroa
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Founded: Feb 17, 2018
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Postby Mauroa » Sun May 15, 2022 5:55 pm

The Castle of Dark Illusions wrote:If you tolerate transphobia, you are a transphobe. If you tolerate homophobia, you are a homophobe. If you tolerate racism, you are a racist.

The responses of the so called "Layemites" have only convinced me all the more that their region needs to be burned down, and has strengthened my resolve to destroy any successor regions they may try to found.


Yes I've been very straight forward with this. I follow the Catholic religion. I follow my Priest, my local Clergy, and the Vatican. If you have a problem take it up with them. However I do not partake in the act of "harassing" or "bullying" people because of their sexuality. Sexual sin is equal to all other sin, just like the Bible says. It's being made a big deal because people' equate sexuality to their entire personality (or lack their of imo). I will not lie or denounce my faith so people can feel better.

I have taken Trans as a trophy because certain individuals have decided to desecrate Sanctum with LGTBQIA+ propaganda. Until that is taken down, Trans will remain up. (And any other regions I might be tempted to refound :P ). I've never taken part on this kind chicanery on NS before and as previously stated, only started because they decided to mock the Catholic faith by desecrating Sanctum.

As for Layem we have moved to Concord. I will gather everyone in Layem and move them there. I will then recruit and get us back to 400 nations to further my cause of liberty and freedom on this site.

Love from Layem,

- Maur
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Fremenilia
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Postby Fremenilia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:12 pm

New King Isles wrote:
Home Box Office wrote:I'm sorry my religion offends you.

Stop using Religion as an excuse. I'm A Christian and I find your actions disgusting

Would I be justified in assuming you are Episcopalian?
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New King Isles
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Postby New King Isles » Sun May 15, 2022 6:14 pm

Fremenilia wrote:
New King Isles wrote:Stop using Religion as an excuse. I'm A Christian and I find your actions disgusting

Would I be justified in assuming you are Episcopalian?

I'm a Presbyterian

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Fremenilia
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Postby Fremenilia » Sun May 15, 2022 6:16 pm

New King Isles wrote:
Fremenilia wrote:Would I be justified in assuming you are Episcopalian?

I'm a Presbyterian

PCUSA then?
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Havl
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Founded: Dec 06, 2004
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Postby Havl » Sun May 15, 2022 6:52 pm

Havl’s permanent World Assembly representative, Wanda Stax, cleared her throat as she approached the mic.

“Per the Nation State of Havl’s longstanding Security Council policy, I vote against this legislation. OK then.”

She muttered curses under her breath as she returned to her seat.
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New Astri
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Founded: Jan 18, 2021
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Postby New Astri » Sun May 15, 2022 7:36 pm

Havl wrote:Havl’s permanent World Assembly representative, Wanda Stax, cleared her throat as she approached the mic.

“Per the Nation State of Havl’s longstanding Security Council policy, I vote against this legislation. OK then.”

She muttered curses under her breath as she returned to her seat.


even the typically anti-wa regions are voting for this one...i don't know if you're missing the context, or something, but it's just kind of a bad one to bring the anti-wa attitude out on. like, not this time, dude. this one is serious lmfao
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Gagium
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Founded: Apr 08, 2017
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Postby Gagium » Sun May 15, 2022 7:40 pm

Mauroa wrote:As for Layem we have moved to Concord. I will gather everyone in Layem and move them there. I will then recruit and get us back to 400 nations to further my cause of liberty and freedom on this site.

Love from Layem,

- Maur

So, uh... Is that still your plan, or..?
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Havl
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Postby Havl » Sun May 15, 2022 7:45 pm

New Astri wrote:
Havl wrote:Havl’s permanent World Assembly representative, Wanda Stax, cleared her throat as she approached the mic.

“Per the Nation State of Havl’s longstanding Security Council policy, I vote against this legislation. OK then.”

She muttered curses under her breath as she returned to her seat.


even the typically anti-wa regions are voting for this one...i don't know if you're missing the context, or something, but it's just kind of a bad one to bring the anti-wa attitude out on. like, not this time, dude. this one is serious lmfao

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Outer Sparta
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 15, 2022 7:58 pm

New Astri wrote:
Havl wrote:Havl’s permanent World Assembly representative, Wanda Stax, cleared her throat as she approached the mic.

“Per the Nation State of Havl’s longstanding Security Council policy, I vote against this legislation. OK then.”

She muttered curses under her breath as she returned to her seat.


even the typically anti-wa regions are voting for this one...i don't know if you're missing the context, or something, but it's just kind of a bad one to bring the anti-wa attitude out on. like, not this time, dude. this one is serious lmfao

Don't really pay much attention to that, it's just their thing.
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Artevenia
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Founded: Mar 28, 2018
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Postby Artevenia » Sun May 15, 2022 8:23 pm

Well, that is interesting to see what happened. Also, whatever became of the slander, I am still here
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Onionist Randosia
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Postby Onionist Randosia » Sun May 15, 2022 8:28 pm

Wait…
Mauroa got DOSed? Their main and all their alts are DEATed…
(including Concord’s founder)
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New Hualonia
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Postby New Hualonia » Sun May 15, 2022 9:50 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
New Hualonia wrote:Most of us in Layem consider it as a friend group instead of a region. Just because we don’t agree with Maur’s views doesn’t mean that we have to unfriend him. Transphobia may be frowned upon by most of the NS community (including me) but it’s not a reason to abandon our friends :)

You should create your own region without Mauroa and others, but just with your friends. There's no need to abandon your friends unless of course the bigots are your friends.

Aged well. Refounding

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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun May 15, 2022 9:52 pm

New Hualonia wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:You should create your own region without Mauroa and others, but just with your friends. There's no need to abandon your friends unless of course the bigots are your friends.

Aged well. Refounding

Pretty hard to refound a region once the password goes bye-bye…
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Outer Sparta
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun May 15, 2022 10:16 pm

Onionist Randosia wrote:Wait…
Mauroa got DOSed? Their main and all their alts are DEATed…
(including Concord’s founder)

If you've been paying attention to this fiasco (I personally haven't), then it's not that surprising, although I don't really know the extent of how things got heated in Layem/Concord and the GP forums.
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Rhaza
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Postby Rhaza » Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 pm

As the recently elected WA Delegate of Concord I must say I quite like this proposal (which I totally didn't write)!

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