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Postby Comfed » Sat May 07, 2022 4:10 pm

Pigeonstan wrote:
Zyvetskistaahn wrote:I mean what I say, what part is unclear?

I meant how is it incorrect

General elections in TNP are every four months, not six.

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Postby Pigeonstan » Sat May 07, 2022 4:31 pm

Im working more on the draft
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat May 07, 2022 4:49 pm

Comfed wrote:
Pigeonstan wrote:I meant how is it incorrect

General elections in TNP are every four months, not six.

You would think someone who is asking for people to vote for him to be delegate in his signature would know small tidbit of trivia like that. I guess I just expect too much out of people.....
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Postby Pigeonstan » Sat May 07, 2022 5:07 pm

Pigeonstan wrote:The Security Council hereby wishes to commend The North Pacific, The North Pacific is the second largest region in the world, with a highly effective machine made possible by several nations.

The North Pacific is made special by its unique history and position. The North Pacific is giant due to it being a feeder region. It was heavily targeted by coups and raids during the earlier years of its existence, including the innovation of seeing the delegate as head of state instead of just ambassador to the World Assembly. McMastredonia over the years, built the North Pacific Army so as to help defend The North Pacific and its allies, and r3naissanc3r, who pioneered the Card Programs, dedicated to creating a large collection of International Artwork, r3naissanc3r also helped mold the ever successful Ministry of Home Affairs, a ministry designed to increase engagement within the region, which helped further the security of the region from coups by increasing endorsement

Recognizing that The North Pacific is at the forefront of the Nationstates community in running an effective regional government. The North Pacific created a card program, first being implemented in January 2019. Currently, The South Pacific (which is the second most governmentally advanced region in Nationstates) has one of its goals for its ministry of engagement to "Evaluate the necessity of a card program in accordance with the current progress and new changes to the card game and complete SPACE as speedy as possible." The East Pacific despite having an extremely complex set of names for roles has to rely on endorsement limits for regional security. To put this into context, The North Pacific has a relatively simple set of governance, yet thanks to their innovative solutions to problems, requires no such thing. The North Pacific has tools dedicated to allowing its nations to reach endorsement counts into the 700s. This simply shows how governmentally advanced the North Pacific is

Recognizing that The North Pacific has one of the most functioning democracies,
The North Pacific every four months holds an election to choose a delegate, vice delegate, and other elected positions, these elections are held securely and are safe from tampering, and the North Pacific has one of the most trusted regional governments, there are a total of 88 active members of The North Pacific's Electorate, most of whom voted so as to choose the delegate. Furthermore, with 1200 total members of the North Pacific regional square, and many foreign delegates, the engagement is powerful. when madjack won the delegacy, hundreds of nations flocked to help smooth the transition of power for the delegate elect. These candidates are extremely open with their plans, to the point wherein the constitution of the North Pacific, it is a crime to lie in one's campaign, all of this helps create a highly engaged, and more importantly, functional democratic process within The North Pacific

Recognizing that The North Pacific is actively working against invasions and threats to regional sovereignty, The North Pacific has an army, which has a home base of The North Pacific Army, whose main goal is to keep the peace, and defend allies from raids, and oppose the warlike ways of the Black Hawks and other raider regions. according to delegate candidate Pallaith, "Recruitment is always talked about in these elections, but I believe we finally have a team in place with vision and ideas to make it happen" The North Pacific as stated can make its army work, and when its army is used, it is used for good, take in point TNP's alliance with The South Pacific

Recognizing that The North Pacific has an active presence in the General Assembly and Security Council, even having a ministry devoted to such, which provides recommendations to TNPers on how to vote on important resolutions, for an example, when the TNPworked tirelessly to liberate The Mystical Council from The Brotherhood of Malice. Delivering a vote so as to convince their WA nations to do the same, it was this effort that allowed The Mystical Council to be liberated from their occupiers

Recognizing that The North Pacific has a thriving culture, held up and supported by the ministry of culture, including such awards shows as the Lennarts, which choose the top members of the region to be held up and praised for their contribution. The Lennarts, with over 70 votes, just on the poll. The interaction gauged by the Ministry of Culture is immense and is emblematic of the engagement that The North Pacific can achieve

The security council hereby commends the North Pacific, for its effective governance, for its well oiled democracy, for its defense of other regions, for its presence in the world assembly, and for it's thriving culturer

Is this good now?
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 07, 2022 5:32 pm

You don't finish multiple clauses, and I don't have to look deep to see the most spelling and grammar mistakes I've ever seen.
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Postby Pigeonstan » Sat May 07, 2022 5:37 pm

Fachumonn wrote:You don't finish multiple clauses, and I don't have to look deep to see the most spelling and grammar mistakes I've ever seen.

what do you mean by "you don't finish multiple clauses
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat May 07, 2022 5:39 pm

Pigeonstan wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:You don't finish multiple clauses, and I don't have to look deep to see the most spelling and grammar mistakes I've ever seen.

what do you mean by "you don't finish multiple clauses

Instead of asking "what you mean by this," why don't you actually check for yourself and make the necessary changes?
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 07, 2022 5:40 pm

Pigeonstan wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:You don't finish multiple clauses, and I don't have to look deep to see the most spelling and grammar mistakes I've ever seen.

what do you mean by "you don't finish multiple clauses

You don't have commas at the end of your clauses, and you keep ignoring the important parts of people's messages. Proofread if you even can comprehend what you're doing wrong.
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Postby Pigeonstan » Sat May 07, 2022 5:43 pm

Pigeonstan wrote:The Security Council hereby wishes to commend The North Pacific, The North Pacific is the second largest region in the world, with a highly effective machine made possible by several nations.

The North Pacific is made special by its unique history and position. The North Pacific is giant due to it being a feeder region. It was heavily targeted by coups and raids during the earlier years of its existence, including the innovation of seeing the delegate as head of state instead of just ambassador to the World Assembly. McMastredonia over the years, built the North Pacific Army so as to help defend The North Pacific and its allies, and r3naissanc3r, who pioneered the Card Programs, dedicated to creating a large collection of International Artwork, r3naissanc3r also helped mold the ever successful Ministry of Home Affairs, a ministry designed to increase engagement within the region, which helped further the security of the region from coups by increasing endorsement

Recognizing that The North Pacific is at the forefront of the Nationstates community in running an effective regional government. The North Pacific created a card program, first being implemented in January 2019. Currently, The South Pacific (which is the second most governmentally advanced region in Nationstates) has one of its goals for its ministry of engagement to "Evaluate the necessity of a card program in accordance with the current progress and new changes to the card game and complete SPACE as speedy as possible." The East Pacific despite having an extremely complex set of names for roles has to rely on endorsement limits for regional security. To put this into context, The North Pacific has a relatively simple set of governance, yet thanks to their innovative solutions to problems, requires no such thing. The North Pacific has tools dedicated to allowing its nations to reach endorsement counts into the 700s. This simply shows how governmentally advanced the North Pacific is

Recognizing that The North Pacific has one of the most functioning democracies,
The North Pacific every four months holds an election to choose a delegate, vice delegate, and other elected positions, these elections are held securely and are safe from tampering, and the North Pacific has one of the most trusted regional governments, there are a total of 88 active members of The North Pacific's Electorate, most of whom voted so as to choose the delegate. Furthermore, with 1200 total members of the North Pacific regional square, and many foreign delegates, the engagement is powerful. when madjack won the delegacy, hundreds of nations flocked to help smooth the transition of power for the delegate elect. These candidates are extremely open with their plans, to the point wherein the constitution of the North Pacific, it is a crime to lie in one's campaign, all of this helps create a highly engaged, and more importantly, functional democratic process within The North Pacific

Recognizing that The North Pacific is actively working against invasions and threats to regional sovereignty, The North Pacific has an army, which has a home base of The North Pacific Army, whose main goal is to keep the peace, and defend allies from raids, and oppose the warlike ways of the Black Hawks and other raider regions. according to delegate candidate Pallaith, "Recruitment is always talked about in these elections, but I believe we finally have a team in place with vision and ideas to make it happen" The North Pacific as stated can make its army work, and when its army is used, it is used for good, for example, TNP's alliance with The South Pacific, and the constant fight against fascism within The North Pacific.

Recognizing that The North Pacific has an active presence in the General Assembly and Security Council, even having a ministry devoted to such, which provides recommendations to TNPers on how to vote on important resolutions, for example, when the TNPworked tirelessly to liberate The Mystical Council from The Brotherhood of Malice. Delivering a vote so as to convince their WA nations to do the same, it was this effort that allowed The Mystical Council to be liberated from their occupiers

Recognizing that The North Pacific has a thriving culture, held up and supported by the ministry of culture, including such awards shows as the Lennarts, which choose the top members of the region to be held up and praised for their contributions. The Lennarts, with over 70 votes, which is just on the poll. The interaction gauged by the Ministry of Culture is immense and is emblematic of the engagement that The North Pacific can achieve

The security council hereby commends the North Pacific, for its effective governance, its well-oiled democracy, its defense of other regions, its presence in the world assembly, and its thriving culture

Where are the grammatical errors
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 07, 2022 6:03 pm

Maybe if you could read well you would be able to see them. If not I might point them out to you.
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Postby Pigeonstan » Sat May 07, 2022 6:13 pm

Fachumonn wrote:Maybe if you could read well you would be able to see them. If not I might point them out to you.

all Im asking, is the resolution legal
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 07, 2022 6:53 pm

Pigeonstan wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Maybe if you could read well you would be able to see them. If not I might point them out to you.

all Im asking, is the resolution legal

That's not the point.
Let me teach you something real quick:
Legal does NOT equal good.
Your resolution may be legal, but it is terrible grammar and spelling-wise. You are not even seeing the parts of messages that are the most important. A GOOD resolution does not have these mistakes.
I wonder if you even know what grammatical means.
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Postby Bormiar » Sat May 07, 2022 7:09 pm

It's not very good, sorry.

Using my evidence (but worse) is not enough. I was merely giving you some info for you to start.

You do not seem intent on or capable of making an acceptable draft and unfortunately I advise you take a step back for a little bit.

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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Sat May 07, 2022 7:32 pm

“My original complaint on impact of a majority of the multiverse still stands. You still only included WA contributions in the latest draft, and no additional evidence is provided to show that TNP has positively impacted a majority of all nations in the multiverse. So I suggest adding additional evidence of impact on the majority of the multiverse, otherwise the resolution “ist nicht gut” as we say in German (meaning “is not good”).”
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat May 07, 2022 7:44 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Pigeonstan wrote:what do you mean by "you don't finish multiple clauses

Instead of asking "what you mean by this," why don't you actually check for yourself and make the necessary changes?

Why? When everyone else can do the work for them?
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat May 07, 2022 8:07 pm

Anne of Cleves in TNP wrote:
(OOC Note: Remove where it says “NationStates” in the 2nd and 3rd clauses, since that is not allowed in proposal writing. Thanks!)

What are you on? Have you even read the SC rules?
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat May 07, 2022 9:01 pm

Fachumonn wrote:
Anne of Cleves in TNP wrote:
(OOC Note: Remove where it says “NationStates” in the 2nd and 3rd clauses, since that is not allowed in proposal writing. Thanks!)

What are you on? Have you even read the SC rules?

Obviously they understand the rules better than you. That second clause is referring to the game and that is a no-no.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat May 07, 2022 11:52 pm

If the author had produced even a semi-literate draft there might have been a chance to salvage this into something halfway presentable.

As it is I think people should stop trying to help the author as they can’t be arsed to help themselves.

Pigeonstan - my suggestion would be to submit your current version, whichever one that is, and then the rest of us can have a good laugh when either it’s declared illegal or disappears without coming within shouting distance of making quorum.
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Also I’m not sure about this but ‘The Security Council wishes to commend’ might fall prey to the rule where resolutions have to be written as the legislation they would be if they pass.
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Postby Pigeonstan » Sun May 08, 2022 4:09 am

Anne of Cleves in TNP wrote:“My original complaint on impact of a majority of the multiverse still stands. You still only included WA contributions in the latest draft, and no additional evidence is provided to show that TNP has positively impacted a majority of all nations in the multiverse. So I suggest adding additional evidence of impact on the majority of the multiverse, otherwise the resolution “ist nicht gut” as we say in German (meaning “is not good”).”
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INationStates game: Proposals cannot refer to the game, or events or actions in it, as part of a game.
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So I need to prove a positive impact on the majority of NS
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Postby Pigeonstan » Sun May 08, 2022 4:47 am

Pigeonstan wrote:The Security Council hereby wishes to commend The North Pacific, The North Pacific is the second largest region in the world, with a highly effective machine made possible by several nations,

The North Pacific is made special by its unique history and position. The North Pacific is giant due to it being a feeder region. It was heavily targeted by coups and raids during the earlier years of its existence, including the innovation of seeing the delegate as head of state instead of just ambassador to the World Assembly. McMastredonia over the years, built the North Pacific Army so as to help defend The North Pacific and its allies, and r3naissanc3r, who pioneered the Card Programs, dedicated to creating a large collection of International Artwork, r3naissanc3r also helped mold the ever successful Ministry of Home Affairs, a ministry designed to increase engagement within the region, which helped further the security of the region from coups by increasing endorsement,

Recognizing that The North Pacific is at the forefront of the Nationstates community in running an effective regional government. The North Pacific created a card program, first being implemented in January 2019. Currently, The South Pacific (which is the second most governmentally advanced region in Nationstates) The Ministry of Engagement, which is The South Pacific's version of The Ministry of Home Affairs, was created on September 7th 2020, The North Pacific created its ministry of Home Affairs well before 2014 The East Pacific despite having an extremely complex set of names for roles has to rely on endorsement limits for regional security. To put this into context, The North Pacific has a relatively simple set of governance, yet thanks to their innovative solutions to problems, requires no such thing. The North Pacific has tools dedicated to allowing its nations to reach endorsement counts into the 700s. The North Pacific, has the most member nations, has the most endorses, and has the most effective government out of the GCRS. The world is positively impacted by getting a role model, to base their regional governments off of

Recognizing that The North Pacific has one of the most functioning democracies,
The North Pacific every four months holds an election to choose a delegate, vice delegate, and other elected positions, these elections are held securely and are safe from tampering, and the North Pacific has one of the most trusted regional governments, there are a total of 88 active members of The North Pacific's Electorate, most of whom voted so as to choose the delegate. Furthermore, with 1200 total members of the North Pacific regional square, and many foreign delegates, the engagement is powerful. when madjack won the delegacy, hundreds of nations flocked to help smooth the transition of power for the delegate elect. These candidates are extremely open with their plans, to the point wherein the constitution of the North Pacific, it is a crime to lie in one's campaign, all of this helps create a highly engaged, and more importantly, functional democratic process within The North Pacific. This has a large positive impact, as it creates an aura of competition around the TNP, which improves it's and the rest of the governance of the world

Recognizing that The North Pacific is actively working against invasions and threats to regional sovereignty, The North Pacific has an army, which has a home base of The North Pacific Army, whose main goal is to keep the peace, and defend allies from raids, and oppose the warlike ways of the Black Hawks and other raider regions. according to delegate candidate Pallaith, "Recruitment is always talked about in these elections, but I believe we finally have a team in place with vision and ideas to make it happen" The North Pacific as stated can make its army work, and when its army is used, it is used for good, for example, TNP's alliance with The South Pacific, and the constant fight against fascism within The North Pacific,

Recognizing that The North Pacific has an active presence in the General Assembly and Security Council, even having a ministry devoted to such, which provides recommendations to TNPers on how to vote on important resolutions, for example, when the TNPworked tirelessly to liberate The Mystical Council from The Brotherhood of Malice. Delivering a vote so as to convince their WA nations to do the same, it was this effort that allowed The Mystical Council to be liberated from their occupiers, saving the natives of The Mystical Council from total destruction of their region

Recognizing that The North Pacific has a thriving culture, held up and supported by the ministry of culture, including such awards shows as the Lennarts, which choose the top members of the region to be held up and praised for their contributions. The Lennarts, with over 70 votes, which is just on the poll. The interaction gauged by the Ministry of Culture is immense and is emblematic of the engagement that The North Pacific can achieve

The security council hereby commends the North Pacific, for its effective governance, its well-oiled democracy, its defense of other regions, its presence in the world assembly, and its thriving culture

Does this sound better, I may need to add more evidence, but I view this as a good start
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun May 08, 2022 5:42 am

Pigeonstan wrote:So I need to prove a positive impact on the majority of NS

It is quite clear you have ZERO understanding of how the rules work. It is also quite clear you have zero clue how to edit your OP, and just keep posting draft after draft with little to no changes.
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Postby Fachumonn » Sun May 08, 2022 5:49 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Pigeonstan wrote:So I need to prove a positive impact on the majority of NS

It is quite clear you have ZERO understanding of how the rules work. It is also quite clear you have zero clue how to edit your OP, and just keep posting draft after draft with little to no changes.

They have an idea of how to, they're just not using it very well.
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Postby Fachumonn » Sun May 08, 2022 6:53 am

And... they submitted it.
Wow. So surprising.
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-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

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