SC Rules discussion

[Unibot III]

Automated telegramming system doesn't make sense from a R4 sense because 'telegramming' is a verb; the dilemma is that the R4-appropriate equivalent, "automated telegraph" makes no sense from a GP perspective.

I would suggest rather than one phrase, use an expression: "a system for automatizing telegrams." or "a system for automatically sending telegrams."

[NationHelper]

Is the term "Forum" allowed in a proposal, even if it's referring to an offsite one?

[Mallorea and Riva]

Is the term "Forum" allowed in a proposal, even if it's referring to an offsite one?

Yes, since "forum" can reasonably be understood to mean a public forum for debate. Obviously it *could* be written in a R4 violating way, but it's usually easy to avoid.

[NationHelper]

Is the term "Forum" allowed in a proposal, even if it's referring to an offsite one?

Yes, since "forum" can reasonably be understood to mean a public forum for debate. Obviously it *could* be written in a R4 violating way, but it's usually easy to avoid.

Would violating it be when you refer to "Forum" as an extension of the game NationStates?

[Honeydewistan II]

Yes, since "forum" can reasonably be understood to mean a public forum for debate. Obviously it *could* be written in a R4 violating way, but it's usually easy to avoid.

Would violating it be when you refer to "Forum" as an extension of the game NationStates?

I don't think you can mention 'NationStates'

[NationHelper]

Would violating it be when you refer to "Forum" as an extension of the game NationStates?

I don't think you can mention 'NationStates'

Well..... Mentioning NS would be like mentioning planet Earth IRL..... NS is the name of the NS world.....

Referring to NS as a game is what makes it illegal.....

[Mallorea and Riva]

Yes, since "forum" can reasonably be understood to mean a public forum for debate. Obviously it *could* be written in a R4 violating way, but it's usually easy to avoid.

Would violating it be when you refer to "Forum" as an extension of the game NationStates?

If you said "on nationstates.net there is a forum where people can post" then obviously. It's extremely difficult to rule on vague hypothetical questions though.

[Abhichandra]

Impressed that Imperium Anglorum also developed Communiqué, a system which sends mass and recruitment telegrams, and also helps with campaigning,

Is this an R4(a) violation?

[Crazy girl]

This should be asked in the relevant thread or in Moderation, not in this thread. But to answer your question, the way it has been phrased here, I'm fine with it.

[Abhichandra]

This should be asked in the relevant thread or in Moderation, not in this thread. But to answer your question, the way it has been phrased here, I'm fine with it.

Ok. And sorry, I'll put it in the correct thread next time.

[Consular]

Would violating it be when you refer to "Forum" as an extension of the game NationStates?

I don't think you can mention 'NationStates'

The word nationstates is legal, I've used it in a proposal. Just don't use the word game.

[The Ninja5 Empire]

If a region were to make several duplicate accounts and repeatedly try to add them to the World Assembly, could it be considered eligible for a Condemnation resolution against that region as in they may be trying to rig votes for resolutions?

[Aureumterra]

So I have a draft to condemn Atkemri, and I based it off of purely (official) Roleplay in N&I, is that OK?

[The Ninja5 Empire]

So I have a draft to condemn Atkemri, and I based it off of purely (official) Roleplay in N&I, is that OK?

This is to discuss the rules actually. If you're wondering if it's fine to have that, then I'm pretty sure it is.

[Mallorea and Riva]

If a region were to make several duplicate accounts and repeatedly try to add them to the World Assembly, could it be considered eligible for a Condemnation resolution against that region as in they may be trying to rig votes for resolutions?

Seems to run into Rule 2(c).

[Greater Cofrienolls]

Is the following Resolution Legal?

The World Assembly Acknowledges That It Is,

Aware that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was founded in early 2015 in NationStates; Founding The United Kingdoms Of The Equator and becoming quite involved in the region's governance, and later making the region a positive haven for those nations new in the world (ultimately in vain as the region ceased to exist one and a half years later) to prevent the from straying from what was right and allowing them to feel safe from raiders with the help of a strong password-admissions-Non-executive WA system.,

Observing that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was and is involved in the Anti-Raider Army (ARA), a small, yet powerful regional raiding defense organization of today; serving as Founder and Minister of Defense, and through this role attempting to protect the sovereignty of multiple regions by defending them against invasion at the hands of raiders such as Kaisserreich and The Black Hawks,

Noting that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was a driving force behind the creation of the ARA, which saw it created as the 'Last Defense Against Raiders' in the times when they are gaining the most, the original region of Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was destroyed by raiders from the region Swansonia, prompting them to create an organisation to concentrate on a primary goal of defending regions,

Perceiving that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was one of the three organisers of The Eternal Order, a region founded in late 2017, which was born on the proposition that they should wipe raiders from every Corner of NationStates history, attempting to free their original region from the occupation of the region Swansonia, though ultimately in vain.

Recalling Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar's contributions to The World, The Eternal Order, & NationStates, which include:
• Constructing and maintaining their Regional RMB, to aid communication between members, and organisation of the regional government,
• Defending with, and leading, the Anti-Raider Army -- a military that helps to defend vulnerable regions from the threat of invasion,
• Maintaining & Forgiving the region that raided his original one by successfully keeping them from internal collapse during early 2018 -- along with keeping their preferred delegate in the position of delegate - despite the delegate being unable to eject or ban nations from the region,
• Helping to reform the raiding ways of Swansonia by forgiving them and advising their leaders on how to reconsolidate power and make the region pure once again in the world.

Recognising that following control of WA Delegateship in Swansonia from the nation The Order of The Star to Greater Cofrienolls, Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar played a critical role in the transition, ensuring stability, and protecting the interests of residents of the region by encouraging and ultimately facilitating the holding of an election to allow them to decide on the regional delegate in Swansonia,

Acknowledging Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar's less relevant contributions to NationStates, including petitioning The Black Hawks to change its ways and see the categorization of themselves as raiders to be repealed and to see them into a brighter future, though ultimately in vain,

Believing that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar has had and will continue to have a major impact on the improvement of NationStates, by giving valuable responses on suggested changes to the structure of the regional environment, suggesting changes to regional governance for all regions to improve well-being of member nations in the Dispatch "A Note To All Regions: Preserving & Peace Guide"and by providing helpful advice to fledgling nations seeking to involve themselves within international affairs and fight the growing raider threat,

Concluding that through these diverse and multitudinous contributions, Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar has made the world a more peaceful and enjoyable place, helped to stop violent, destructive, and unnecessary raids, made multiple fledging nations happy, and that these actions are more than worthy of recognition through a World Assembly Commendation,

The World Assembly Hereby Commends Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar.

[Lenlyvit]

Is the following Resolution Legal?

The World Assembly Acknowledges That It Is,

Aware that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was founded in early 2015 in NationStates; Founding The United Kingdoms Of The Equator and becoming quite involved in the region's governance, and later making the region a positive haven for those nations new in the world (ultimately in vain as the region ceased to exist one and a half years later) to prevent the from straying from what was right and allowing them to feel safe from raiders with the help of a strong password-admissions-Non-executive WA system.,

Observing that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was and is involved in the Anti-Raider Army (ARA), a small, yet powerful regional raiding defense organization of today; serving as Founder and Minister of Defense, and through this role attempting to protect the sovereignty of multiple regions by defending them against invasion at the hands of raiders such as Kaisserreich and The Black Hawks,

Noting that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was a driving force behind the creation of the ARA, which saw it created as the 'Last Defense Against Raiders' in the times when they are gaining the most, the original region of Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was destroyed by raiders from the region Swansonia, prompting them to create an organisation to concentrate on a primary goal of defending regions,

Perceiving that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar was one of the three organisers of The Eternal Order, a region founded in late 2017, which was born on the proposition that they should wipe raiders from every Corner of NationStates history, attempting to free their original region from the occupation of the region Swansonia, though ultimately in vain.

Recalling Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar's contributions to The World, The Eternal Order, & NationStates, which include:
• Constructing and maintaining their Regional RMB, to aid communication between members, and organisation of the regional government,
• Defending with, and leading, the Anti-Raider Army -- a military that helps to defend vulnerable regions from the threat of invasion,
• Maintaining & Forgiving the region that raided his original one by successfully keeping them from internal collapse during early 2018 -- along with keeping their preferred delegate in the position of delegate - despite the delegate being unable to eject or ban nations from the region,
• Helping to reform the raiding ways of Swansonia by forgiving them and advising their leaders on how to reconsolidate power and make the region pure once again in the world.

Recognising that following control of WA Delegateship in Swansonia from the nation The Order of The Star to Greater Cofrienolls, Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar played a critical role in the transition, ensuring stability, and protecting the interests of residents of the region by encouraging and ultimately facilitating the holding of an election to allow them to decide on the regional delegate in Swansonia,

Acknowledging Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar's less relevant contributions to NationStates, including petitioning The Black Hawks to change its ways and see the categorization of themselves as raiders to be repealed and to see them into a brighter future, though ultimately in vain,

Believing that Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar has had and will continue to have a major impact on the improvement of NationStates, by giving valuable responses on suggested changes to the structure of the regional environment, suggesting changes to regional governance for all regions to improve well-being of member nations in the Dispatch "A Note To All Regions: Preserving & Peace Guide"and by providing helpful advice to fledgling nations seeking to involve themselves within international affairs and fight the growing raider threat,

Concluding that through these diverse and multitudinous contributions, Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar has made the world a more peaceful and enjoyable place, helped to stop violent, destructive, and unnecessary raids, made multiple fledging nations happy, and that these actions are more than worthy of recognition through a World Assembly Commendation,

The World Assembly Hereby Commends Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar.

This should go in viewtopic.php?f=24&t=193670

[Lenlyvit]

Well, I guess since this is the discussion thread for SC rules I'm going to make a suggested new rule. I know the trend was started by my passage of Liberate KREICH, so I might as well gauge people's opinions on this idea. Thoughts, suggestions, opinions? Offensive liberations will still be able to be used, yet can only target a region once it goes founderless.

Rule 5. Regions with a living founder cannot be liberated by the Security Council.

[Wrapper]

Post it in Technical, since it would require changes to the game.

Actually, a similar thread Technical already exists. Discuss it there.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=440722

[Lenlyvit]

Post it in Technical, since it would require changes to the game.

Actually, a similar thread Technical already exists. Discuss it there.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=440722

I didn't see that until now, but I still think a new rule should be enacted instead of a game mechanic changed. A new rule would be easier to create and enact than changing part of the mechanic that liberations use.

[Wrapper]

Fair point, but since it's already being discussed there, go ahead and make your case in the Technical thread.

[Terra Voltera]

Goes back three pages

Sorry for digging this up, but I believe that the Character Limit needs to be updated to the new limit of 5000 characters.

[Wrapper]

Got it, thanks.

[Kakastania]

If I say "..... to this world" is that legal?

[Kuriko]

If I say "..... to this world" is that legal?

This really belongs in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=409053. But to answer your question, no its not legal. Not all nations are on one world, or even comprised of one planet. Rather, some encompass many planets or multiple dimensions. That's why we must adress the council itself rather than one planet.