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THE land ofr all
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Propasal disscusion: Liberate THE Region of Lands

Postby THE land ofr all » Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:57 pm

KNOWING that the region of land is a region that gives freedom to all, and that is very varied and respectful to all,
RECOGNIZING that this region is at a difficult time,
BELIEVING that through this announcement things can improve for them, and that they can be free again.

release the REGION of LANDS

See the original here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1649885246

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Postby Minskiev » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:33 pm

Hi. Your region was tagged. As the founder of the region, you can detag it! Just go here and change the World Factbook Entry, flag, and banner, and abort the construction of embassies with the Black Hawks (the region that tagged you).
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THE land ofr all
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Postby THE land ofr all » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:43 pm

Minskiev wrote:Hi. Your region was tagged. As the founder of the region, you can detag it! Just go here and change the World Factbook Entry, flag, and banner, and abort the construction of embassies with the Black Hawks (the region that tagged you).

Im worried that if I do that, the Black Hawks will raid me again. I feel like stronger measures need to be taken other than just closing the embassy or setting a password. Like for exmaple, having more powerful defender regions have postions of authority in my region so that they can help keep my region safe from raiders.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:03 pm

THE land ofr all wrote:
Minskiev wrote:Hi. Your region was tagged. As the founder of the region, you can detag it! Just go here and change the World Factbook Entry, flag, and banner, and abort the construction of embassies with the Black Hawks (the region that tagged you).

Im worried that if I do that, the Black Hawks will raid me again. I feel like stronger measures need to be taken other than just closing the embassy or setting a password. Like for exmaple, having more powerful defender regions have postions of authority in my region so that they can help keep my region safe from raiders.

A liberation will do none of those things for you. I suggest reading the threads pinned to the top of this very forum....
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Postby United Calanworie » Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:17 pm

THE land ofr all wrote:
Minskiev wrote:Hi. Your region was tagged. As the founder of the region, you can detag it! Just go here and change the World Factbook Entry, flag, and banner, and abort the construction of embassies with the Black Hawks (the region that tagged you).

Im worried that if I do that, the Black Hawks will raid me again. I feel like stronger measures need to be taken other than just closing the embassy or setting a password. Like for exmaple, having more powerful defender regions have postions of authority in my region so that they can help keep my region safe from raiders.

It's called removing executive from your WA delegate, and not founding a region when you know nothing about how to keep it secure. I suggest reading this excellent guide to help you determine if you're actually ready to found a region.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:22 pm

Nobody will support your futile attempts at begging for a liberation. It's up to you to protect your fledgling region from raiders.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:12 pm

The submitted proposal is illegal - it does not have a proper operative clause and so will not get any further. But let’s face it even if it was legal it would disappear from the queue in a couple of days time anyway.

As others here have said you, as the Founder, already have the tools at your disposal to prevent another raid. A Liberation is not one of those.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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THE land ofr all
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Postby THE land ofr all » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:17 am

By the way I'm not the one that made the orginal propsal. I just craeted this thread for disscusion of it.

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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 am

THE land ofr all wrote:KNOWING that the region of land is a region that gives freedom to all, and that is very varied and respectful to all,
RECOGNIZING that this region is at a difficult time,
BELIEVING that through this announcement things can improve for them, and that they can be free again.

release the REGION of LANDS

See the original here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1649885246


“Ambassador, be sure to tell the author that this is not a good proposal. First, it has no operative clauses, as said above. Second, the first preambulatory clause is highly subjective, since it cannot actually be proven factual unless everyone agrees that it is true. There is a major difference between subjective and objective, ambassador. Third, the final clause is pointless. Finally, in this facility, we use the term “liberate” for any SC liberations, not “release”. For all of these reasons and for reasons others have already said, the Clevesian people cannot condone this liberation proposal.”

-Ms. Charlotte Schafer, WA Ambassador for the Clevesian Empire
IC Name: The Clevesian Empire
Capital: New Cleves
Leader: Empress Anne of Cleves III
Failed WA Proposals: “Repeal: Comfortable Pillows for All Protocol”
IC WA Minister: Lady Charlotte Schafer
“This is the part where you run from your proposal.”

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:56 am

THE land ofr all wrote:By the way I'm not the one that made the orginal propsal. I just craeted this thread for disscusion of it.

Employ a better ghost writer next time, someone who has some idea on how to write an SC proposal.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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THE land ofr all
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Postby THE land ofr all » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:19 am

Anne of Cleves in TNP wrote:
THE land ofr all wrote:KNOWING that the region of land is a region that gives freedom to all, and that is very varied and respectful to all,
RECOGNIZING that this region is at a difficult time,
BELIEVING that through this announcement things can improve for them, and that they can be free again.

release the REGION of LANDS

See the original here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1649885246


“Ambassador, be sure to tell the author that this is not a good proposal. First, it has no operative clauses, as said above. Second, the first preambulatory clause is highly subjective, since it cannot actually be proven factual unless everyone agrees that it is true. There is a major difference between subjective and objective, ambassador. Third, the final clause is pointless. Finally, in this facility, we use the term “liberate” for any SC liberations, not “release”. For all of these reasons and for reasons others have already said, the Clevesian people cannot condone this liberation proposal.”

-Ms. Charlotte Schafer, WA Ambassador for the Clevesian Empire

Ok

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:05 am

THE land ofr all wrote:By the way I'm not the one that made the orginal propsal. I just craeted this thread for disscusion of it.

Again, don't go begging the WA to liberate your tiny region for you. It's up to you to secure your region from raiders. Raiders simply play their game, but you need to be vigilant instead of focusing on futile liberation proposals nobody would care about.
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