Liberate The Black Hawks Proposal Template

[The Tungsten Order]

The Security Council,

Noting that the Black hawks are still an active region and still a dangerous threat to the community and regions,

Hoping that if their founder ceases to exist, it will be re-founded inorder to stop the threat of raiderdom to show the actions the World Assembly is willing to use as a punishment for raider based regions,

Showing that the power of the Security Council is not weak and their are consequences for raiding,

hereby liberates the Black Hawks.

[Fachumonn]

Please rethink this. Now TBH CANNOT impose a password, even if they wanted to.

[WayNeacTia]

Please rethink this. Now TBH CANNOT impose a password, even if they wanted to.

Why can't they? Full support by the way. The Hawks could certainly use a little more bling....

[The Tungsten Order]

Please rethink this. Now TBH CANNOT impose a password, even if they wanted to.

Ok? But what if their founder ceases to exist, and they do put a password in? They did the same for the region of KAISERREICH even though they had a founder and are monarchist, not fascist.

[Fachumonn]

Please rethink this. Now TBH CANNOT impose a password, even if they wanted to.

Ok? But what if their founder ceases to exist, and they do put a password in? They did the same for the region of KAISERREICH even though they had a founder and are monarchist, not fascist.

No matter what it still needs a lot of work.

[Astrobolt]

Please rethink this. Now TBH CANNOT impose a password, even if they wanted to.

Ok? But what if their founder ceases to exist, and they do put a password in? They did the same for the region of KAISERREICH even though they had a founder and are monarchist, not fascist.

No reason why a potential liberation couldn’t be passed then. Right now, this would only serve to give more attention to TBH, which they would likely appreciate.

[Vleerian]

No reason why a potential liberation couldn’t be passed then. Right now, this would only serve to give more attention to TBH, which they would likely appreciate.

Pretty much this. While I think the argument for "we shouldn't pass this because it gives attention" is a weak one, any liberation of a raider stronghold needs to answer the question of why liberate now.

Ok? But what if their founder ceases to exist, and they do put a password in? They did the same for the region of KAISERREICH even though they had a founder and are monarchist, not fascist.

TBH's founder has not CTE'd nor has a password been imposed - if you want to convince anybody your proposal has merit you will have to do better than "the founder might CTE someday maybe.

I'm not going to touch the comparison to kaiserrich because I'm sure there are a number of people who can handle that better than me.

[Outer Sparta]

Not exactly a necessary proposal.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Don’t know why you’ve bothered starting a thread as you have already submitted this very badly written attempt.

Your comparison with KR is odious to say the least. KR were a Nazi/Fascist region at the time of their Liberation, an accusation that could never be levelled at the Hawks.

[Penguin Dictators]

Hard pass. I'm not a fan of preemptive liberations on the grounds that the founder "might" CTE one day.

And yeah, BBD pretty much covered the comparison thing well enough.

[The Universe World]

The Tungsten Order is a raider who helped raid EmbassyRegionia (and tried to even before the raid) so this is odd.

[Outer Sparta]

BTW their founder's last activity was nine hours ago. So your claims that they will CTE soon are demonstrably false.

[The Tungsten Order]

BTW their founder's last activity was nine hours ago. So your claims that they will CTE soon are demonstrably false.

My claim is that one day like many things, they will cease to exist, even if it takes a long time. (Eg. Some random nation from 2003 ceases to exist later this year)

[The Universe World]

BTW their founder's last activity was nine hours ago. So your claims that they will CTE soon are demonstrably false.

My claim is that one day like many things, they will cease to exist, even if it takes a long time. (Eg. Some random nation from 2003 ceases to exist later this year)

I am pretty sure that the TBH Commander nation can be accessed my multiple people. If so, it will likely never cease to exist.

[The Tungsten Order]

The Security Council,

Noting that the Black hawks are still an active region and still a dangerous threat to the community and regions,

Hoping that if their founder ceases to exist, it will be re-founded inorder to stop the threat of raiderdom to show the actions the World Assembly is willing to use as a punishment for raider based regions,

Showing that the power of the Security Council is not weak and their are consequences for raiding,

hereby liberates the Black Hawks.

Revised to be more fighting for a stronger proposal.

[Vavlar]

Interesting.

[Malphe II]

BTW their founder's last activity was nine hours ago. So your claims that they will CTE soon are demonstrably false.

My claim is that one day like many things, they will cease to exist, even if it takes a long time. (Eg. Some random nation from 2003 ceases to exist later this year)

Then you can make a liberation then? There are more constructive ways to get badges than this.

[Vleerian]

My claim is that one day like many things, they will cease to exist, even if it takes a long time. (Eg. Some random nation from 2003 ceases to exist later this year)

Despite the rewording of your proposal, you have still not adequately explained why TBH should be liberated now and not when the founder actually ceases to exist.

... if you want to convince anybody your proposal has merit you will have to do better than "the founder might CTE someday maybe.

[Reventus Koth]

My claim is that one day like many things, they will cease to exist, even if it takes a long time. (Eg. Some random nation from 2003 ceases to exist later this year)

I am pretty sure that the TBH Commander nation can be accessed my multiple people. If so, it will likely never cease to exist.

TBH Commander is Red Back's nation and his alone, for the record.

[The Universe World]

I am pretty sure that the TBH Commander nation can be accessed my multiple people. If so, it will likely never cease to exist.

TBH Commander is Red Back's nation and his alone, for the record.

Ah, that renders my point irrelevant and inaccurate than.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Not only do you still not give a good enough reason for liberating TBH but your grammar and spelling are atrocious.

At least proofread the drivel you are writing.

[Outer Sparta]

BTW their founder's last activity was nine hours ago. So your claims that they will CTE soon are demonstrably false.

My claim is that one day like many things, they will cease to exist, even if it takes a long time. (Eg. Some random nation from 2003 ceases to exist later this year)

So your claims are still demonstrably false and relies on assumptions that you cannot prove and justify. By your logic, we should liberate every region since their founders might CTE in the future, even if it takes a long time.

[Dawn Denac]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=47104113

Just to demonstrate this is more than likely badge-hunting, you also participated in the raid on EmbassyRegionia and submitted a similar proposal to condemn The Shadows (for that operation and others) per here. Please take the advice of the people have given you in this thread, review your proposals and draft them in detail?

EDIT: clarification.

[Outer Sparta]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=47104113

Just to demonstrate this is more than likely badge-hunting, you also participated in the raid on EmbassyRegionia and submitted a similar proposal to condemn The Shadows (for that operation and others) per here. Please take the advice of the people have given you in this thread, review your proposals and draft them in detail?

EDIT: clarification.

They have another one submitted. Doesn't change the fact it's unnecessary, not to mention terribly-written.

[Dawn Denac]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=47104113

Just to demonstrate this is more than likely badge-hunting, you also participated in the raid on EmbassyRegionia and submitted a similar proposal to condemn The Shadows (for that operation and others) per here. Please take the advice of the people have given you in this thread, review your proposals and draft them in detail?

EDIT: clarification.

They have another one submitted. Doesn't change the fact it's unnecessary, not to mention terribly-written.

Just adds to my point, yeah. Regardless, the author doesn't seem intent on replying here anymore and I've made my point.