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[Draft] Repeal "Liberate The Mystical Council"

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[Draft] Repeal "Liberate The Mystical Council"

Postby Venico » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:30 am

Repeal Liberate The Mystical Council


LAUDING the admirable efforts put forth by Alistia in this Liberation Proposal as valid and necessary

NOTING that this Liberation was intended to prevent raider destruction of The Mystical Council

ACKNOWLEDGING that the target region’s destruction and refounding in advance of the liberations passing renders it functionally moot

REGRETTING that this Liberation can no longer serve its intended purpose and only now presents the Brotherhood of Malice and associated raiders with a further ornamental trophy

RATIONALIZING that it is imperative to strike archaic and dysfunctional proposals from the annals of the Security Council in fairness to aspiring authors

HOPING that the original residents of The Mystical Council can find an amenable home in coming times

SURMISING that, in solidarity with the victims of this raid and in observance of best practices of the Security Council, this liberation should be removed from the now permanently occupied region,

HEREBY repeals Liberate The Mystical Council

Been working on this guy since Friday, in light of other proposals being posted figured I'd toss mine in as well. Would love to hear feedback as it's been awhile since I earned my SC authorship badge.

VenEdit 1: Removed ampersands and substituted with the word "and"
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:49 am

Would actually write out "and" instead of using ampersands.

Personally would support if a native of the original Mystical Council (aka Alistia or one of the others) is fine with it being repealed.
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Postby Venico » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:52 am

Hulldom wrote:Would actually write out "and" instead of using ampersands.


Is there a reason for that substitution? Didn't know if there's logical reasons for that or personal preference. I'm not opposed to either.
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:53 am

Venico wrote:HEREBY repeals Liberate The Mystical Council

Been working on this guy since Friday, in light of other proposals being posted figured I'd toss mine in as well. Would love to hear feedback as it's been awhile since I earned my SC authorship badge.

I think my proposal is more likely to pass since I wasn't the one who actually raided the Mystical Council. :)
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:54 am

Venico wrote:
Hulldom wrote:Would actually write out "and" instead of using ampersands.


Is there a reason for that substitution? Didn't know if there's logical reasons for that or personal preference. I'm not opposed to either.

Just a stylistic preference. It's certainly not a dealbreaker. The latter part of my post though is.
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:55 am

Do you have permission from TMC natives? Otherwise a lot of people will be against this.
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Postby Venico » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:57 am

Fachumonn wrote:Do you have permission from TMC natives? Otherwise a lot of people will be against this.


Fairly confident I can get both Diviciacus and the Founder to approve. =P As far as approval from The Mystical Alliance, I have not reached out as of yet. I'm aware of the obstacles if they oppose my legislation. :)
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:58 am

Venico wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Do you have permission from TMC natives? Otherwise a lot of people will be against this.


Fairly confident I can get both Diviciacus and the Founder to approve. =P As far as approval from The Mystical Alliance, I have not reached out as of yet. I'm aware of the obstacles if they oppose my legislation. :)

No I mean the Mystical Alliance.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:59 am

Fachumonn wrote:
Venico wrote:HEREBY repeals Liberate The Mystical Council
Been working on this guy since Friday, in light of other proposals being posted figured I'd toss mine in as well. Would love to hear feedback as it's been awhile since I earned my SC authorship badge.

I think my proposal is more likely to pass since I wasn't the one who actually raided the Mystical Council. :)

Don’t bet on it - Venico’s is much better written than yours.

Would support this proposal in preference if you can get former native support.

Agree with Hulldom about the ampersands though.
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Postby Venico » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:02 am

Removed Ampersands for you folks, even if I think they make legislation looks pretty =P
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Postby Quebecshire » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:03 am

Unequivocally opposed. No self indulging badges for griefers, thanks.

Alistia proved themselves a capable drafter/author with the initial liberation. I’m sure they and the other actual non-trespassing natives can come up with a suitable repeal if they so desire.

So yeah, opposed due to both the context surrounding the author and a lack of native support.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:15 am

Yeah, I’m with Q on this one. Not a huge fan of the other draft either, but this just feels like blatant gloating at this point tbh. While understandable from a political pov, I am obviously against nonetheless.
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Postby Venico » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:19 am

Quebecshire wrote:Unequivocally opposed. No self indulging badges for griefers, thanks.

Alistia proved themselves a capable drafter/author with the initial liberation. I’m sure they and the other actual non-trespassing natives can come up with a suitable repeal if they so desire.


A) I'm more than happy to have that liberation stand. It mentions me personally, puts a shiny plaque on my refounded trophy. It's written very well, etc. However on the other hand I'd also like to clear out a liberation on the books that is doing functionally nothing. This liberation serves for nothing right now other than to put a pin in my lapel.

B) If Alisitia or another Mystical Alliance native were to provide significant feedback and work, I'd be more than happy to add them as a co-author.
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Postby Madjack » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:31 am

Hulldom wrote:Personally would support if a native of the original Mystical Council (aka Alistia or one of the others) is fine with it being repealed.

Without this, TNP will be voting against, though I'm sure Venico is aware of such a hurdle.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:52 am

Fachumonn wrote:
Venico wrote:HEREBY repeals Liberate The Mystical Council

Been working on this guy since Friday, in light of other proposals being posted figured I'd toss mine in as well. Would love to hear feedback as it's been awhile since I earned my SC authorship badge.

I think my proposal is more likely to pass since I wasn't the one who actually raided the Mystical Council. :)

While you do have a proposal written this one is better even if it's a raider who is writing it.
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Postby Professor Albus Dumbledore » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:13 am

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Fachumonn wrote:I think my proposal is more likely to pass since I wasn't the one who actually raided the Mystical Council. :)

Don’t bet on it - Venico’s is much better written than yours.

Would support this proposal in preference if you can get former native support.

Agree with Hulldom about the ampersands though.

Venico's just badge hunting for this job.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:42 am

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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Don’t bet on it - Venico’s is much better written than yours.

Would support this proposal in preference if you can get former native support.

Agree with Hulldom about the ampersands though.

Venico's just badge hunting for this job.

Technically isn't the other person with a similar draft also badge hunting? You could accuse everyone of doing the same if they made a draft of it.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:48 am

Not going to support a repeal that gives even more attention to the invasion party, and absolutely not one written by the invasion party itself.
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:56 am

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Professor Albus Dumbledore wrote:Venico's just badge hunting for this job.

Technically isn't the other person with a similar draft also badge hunting? You could accuse everyone of doing the same if they made a draft of it.

Venico already has a badge in both the GA and SC. So what is he hunting?
Meanwhile obviously I don't have a badge lol.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:58 am

Fachumonn wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Technically isn't the other person with a similar draft also badge hunting? You could accuse everyone of doing the same if they made a draft of it.

Venico already has a badge in both the GA and SC. So what is he hunting?
Meanwhile obviously I don't have a badge lol.

Even if you already have a badge, you can still go for more. My point still stands, Venico's draft is better written than yours even if they were part of the raiding party that took over TMC.
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Postby New King Isles » Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:00 pm

Thousand Branches wrote:Yeah, I’m with Q on this one. Not a huge fan of the other draft either, but this just feels like blatant gloating at this point tbh. While understandable from a political pov, I am obviously against nonetheless.

Well, Venico is a native now technically, same with me, so....

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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:05 pm

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Thousand Branches wrote:Yeah, I’m with Q on this one. Not a huge fan of the other draft either, but this just feels like blatant gloating at this point tbh. While understandable from a political pov, I am obviously against nonetheless.

Well, Venico is a native now technically, same with me, so....

I think they'll still need confirmation from natives at The Mystical Alliance.
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Postby Venico » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:12 pm

To address a few things all at once. Those accusing me of "badge hunting", I guess? When I saw the Liberation passing without really any major delegate votes switching despite the region being refounded, I knew this liberation would get repealed. Whether it be this month or a year from now, it's going to happen. SC usually doesn't let me keep shiny plaques on trophies, nor does it usually let legislation that is outdated go unrepealed, and make no mistake this legislation will be outdated when our raid goes from recent trauma/glory to the slightly more faded legend. Upon that thought process I decided that there's a few things I enjoyed the last few stints of NS I did, and one of them was the Security Council. Figured this would be a nice way to dip my toes back into it. Now granted I didn't expect to be posting it so soon but with other proposals being put forward, I felt it better to be doing my drafting in the open. If this never goes anywhere I'll be just as content if it does.

On the note of approval from The Mystical Alliance, I have reached out to someone who I kept pretty cordial correspondence throughout the raid with, Alistia. I plan on working if them if they'd have me, if not well then this draft will sit until I decide I want to do something with it.
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Postby Apatosaurus » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:25 pm

Vedan wrote:The Mystical council's former native community has made if clear that we want the liberation to stay as a reminder of our regions history, even if the region itself is occupied by raiders. This resolution will find no support from the Mystical Alliance. (TMC's successor region.)

Vedan (a native) has expressed opposition to a repeal of the Liberation of TMC. As such, no support.
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:52 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:
Vedan wrote:The Mystical council's former native community has made if clear that we want the liberation to stay as a reminder of our regions history, even if the region itself is occupied by raiders. This resolution will find no support from the Mystical Alliance. (TMC's successor region.)

Vedan (a native) has expressed opposition to a repeal of the Liberation of TMC. As such, no support.

Opposed as well. The TMA held a referendum on the topic, and they voted 7-0 to keep the liberation up.
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