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Proposal "Condemn East Lemyone"

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:57 am
by Can No Rey
IMPORTANT

Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws. First of all, everything listed happened in a roleplay, and the author is fairly new to NS.

I am not the author, but I am in the roleplay and the author's region.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:00 am
by Polomon Islands
Can No Rey wrote:IMPORTANT

Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws. First of all, everything listed happened in a roleplay, and the author is fairly new to NS.

I am not the author, but I am in the roleplay and the author's region.

Very short and definitely illegal.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:08 am
by Can No Rey
Polomon Islands wrote:
Can No Rey wrote:IMPORTANT

Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws. First of all, everything listed happened in a roleplay, and the author is fairly new to NS.

I am not the author, but I am in the roleplay and the author's region.

Very short and definitely illegal.

Yes, I am not sure what St Spain is doing, he doesn't understand how the WA works.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:16 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Polomon Islands wrote:
Can No Rey wrote:IMPORTANT

Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws. First of all, everything listed happened in a roleplay, and the author is fairly new to NS.

I am not the author, but I am in the roleplay and the author's region.

Very short and definitely illegal.

Pray, do tell why you think it’s illegal.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:27 am
by Can No Rey
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Polomon Islands wrote:Very short and definitely illegal.

Pray, do tell why you think it’s illegal.

I actually don't see any large illegalities in the proposal, but it deals in roleplay, and personally I think rp should be kept from affecting proposals, as do others.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:31 am
by Polomon Islands
Author is fairly new to NS

should that be in a proposal?
Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws

What "past" flaws?
Is this a repeal or a condemn?
And there is barely anything to condemn this nation with.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:41 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Can No Rey wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Pray, do tell why you think it’s illegal.

I actually don't see any large illegalities in the proposal, but it deals in roleplay, and personally I think rp should be kept from affecting proposals, as do others.

Yet C&Cs have been awarded on the strength of a nation’s role play. Whether you think a C&C should be awarded for role play is neither here nor there, authors are allowed to write a proposal about it. As long as they keep it IC and don’t mention role play directly it will be fine from a legality point of view.

In this case it’s a fairly awful bit of writing but no worse than others I’ve seen that cover the same sort of area.

Polomon Islands wrote:
Author is fairly new to NS

should that be in a proposal?
Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws

What "past" flaws?
Is this a repeal or a condemn?
And there is barely anything to condemn this nation with.

Well, your last sentence is right at least.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:01 am
by WayNeacTia
Polomon Islands wrote:
Can No Rey wrote:IMPORTANT

Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws. First of all, everything listed happened in a roleplay, and the author is fairly new to NS.

I am not the author, but I am in the roleplay and the author's region.

Very short and definitely illegal.

Please explain in detail, exactly how this is illegal. You seem to have a penchant for delivering bad advice on the forums.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:10 am
by Polomon Islands
Wayneactia wrote:
Polomon Islands wrote:Very short and definitely illegal.

Please explain in detail, exactly how this is illegal. You seem to have a penchant for delivering bad advice on the forums.

Cant you see I wrote it above?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:14 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Polomon Islands wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Please explain in detail, exactly how this is illegal. You seem to have a penchant for delivering bad advice on the forums.

Cant you see I wrote it above?

Nope, you didn’t. See if you can point out exactly why you think it’s illegal and which SC rule it contravenes.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:55 am
by WayNeacTia
Polomon Islands wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Please explain in detail, exactly how this is illegal. You seem to have a penchant for delivering bad advice on the forums.

Cant you see I wrote it above?

Please don’t tell me you are basing your assertions on the opening post and not the the actual proposal? :eyebrow:

Security Council Proposal
ID: st_spain_1638171389

Condemn East Lemyone

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation
Nominee: East Lemyone
Proposed by: St Spain
QUOTING the grievous crimes committed by the Lemyonean government such as:-

• Outlawing political freedom and all civil
rights
• Making slavery legal
• Human sacrifice without the consent or
approval of the victim or his or her
family members

RECOGNISING that forced slavery ,human sacrifice without consent and Outlawing political freedom is a breach of basic civil rights (Right to Freedom of Choice) and is inhumane in nature

UNDERSTANDING that the rogue Lemyonean government will not end these malpractices without regional and international pressure

THEREFORE the World Assembly as a whole, hereby condemns the rogue nation of East Lemyone for legalizing slavery , outlawing political freedom and sacrificing human beings.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:58 am
by Sedgistan
For the record, the proposal as submitted is legal.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:26 am
by Can No Rey
Polomon Islands wrote:
Author is fairly new to NS

should that be in a proposal?
Please disregard and do not approve this proposal, looking past it's many flaws

What "past" flaws?
Is this a repeal or a condemn?
And there is barely anything to condemn this nation with.


- This is not the proposal, I have written some and got one to quorum, but this proposal was written by someone who is in the same region as me. Please look at the actual proposal before trying to tell me what to say.

Sedgistan wrote:For the record, the proposal as submitted is legal.

It may be legal, but this proposal doesn't deal with roleplay quality, just events that happened in the roleplay, so I am asking everyone to ignore it. The author has seemed to have confused the WA with our roleplay universe UN.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:40 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Can No Rey wrote:It may be legal, but this proposal doesn't deal with roleplay quality, just events that happened in the roleplay, so I am asking everyone to ignore it. The author has seemed to have confused the WA with our roleplay universe UN.

Actually if you hadn’t started this thread the proposal would have sunk without a trace, like so many poor quality proposals before it.

It’s you that has given this proposal publicity.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:47 am
by Can No Rey
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Can No Rey wrote:It may be legal, but this proposal doesn't deal with roleplay quality, just events that happened in the roleplay, so I am asking everyone to ignore it. The author has seemed to have confused the WA with our roleplay universe UN.

Actually if you hadn’t started this thread the proposal would have sunk without a trace, like so many poor quality proposals before it.

It’s you that has given this proposal publicity.

seeing as mr. tinhampton decided to endorse it, as per usual, I thought it may be necessary to do this, my bad.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:10 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Can No Rey wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Actually if you hadn’t started this thread the proposal would have sunk without a trace, like so many poor quality proposals before it.

It’s you that has given this proposal publicity.

seeing as mr. tinhampton decided to endorse it, as per usual, I thought it may be necessary to do this, my bad.

Tinhampton is a rubber stamper - they will approve pretty much any proposal legal or illegal, good, bad or indifferent.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:11 am
by Apatosaurus
Not a condemnable nominee.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:12 pm
by Outer Sparta
Can No Rey wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Actually if you hadn’t started this thread the proposal would have sunk without a trace, like so many poor quality proposals before it.

It’s you that has given this proposal publicity.

seeing as mr. tinhampton decided to endorse it, as per usual, I thought it may be necessary to do this, my bad.

Yeah no. Unless an undrafted resolution gets support and reaches quorum, it's better off not to post them as most of them will just die quietly without getting the approvals needed.