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[PASSED] Commend Emiline

Postby Free Azell » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:55 pm

Draft 1:
The Security Council,

Exuberant at Emira Emi of Emiline’s role as an Administrator in the Augustin Alliance, where Emiline oversees the day-to-day operations of the alliance as a whole. Ensuring strong central planning, unity between the regions within the Alliance, and coordination of alliance goals. which has perpetuated the flourishing of the regions therein through both influence, and World Assembly nation growth despite the difficulties of maintaining population and growth during certain periods of time.

Impressed that Emiline has been instrumental in ensuring the success and safety of the Augustin Alliance during the annual nuclear conflict, known to the world as N-Day, in the following ways:
1. Constructing a strong bond between the regions of Anteria and the Augustin Alliance to ensure mutually beneficial strategic operations;

2. Acting as an important mediator between other regions that were otherwise hesitant to join nonaggression pacts with the Alliance;

3.Commanding the defense forces of the Alliance, totaling zero radiation from the blasts in the fourth nuclear war;

4. Aiding the Alliance in capturing three first-place and one third-place awards in this contest;

Noting Emiline’s control of the nations of Zhengan and Prybourne,

Celebrating Zhengan’s role as founder of Anteria for six years, as an instrumental part of the rise of Anteria in the world.

Saluting the creation of the Sumo Club, which has attracted interest from many regions and introduced them to the sport of Sumo Wrestling; this is another example of innovations that Emiline has brought to the public, adding immense value to the cultural make-up of many regions.

Awestruck by Prybourne’s central role in:

1. Building the flourishing community within Anteria, which is now a mecca for world-building.

2. Encouraging the strong World Assembly presence in Anteria, which ranks 15th in the world for most average endorsements, achieved through the constant promotion of cross-endorsements in the region.

3. Establishing Anteria’s declarations of friendship with the Augustin Alliance and Karma, expanding its cultural, defense, and World Assembly cooperation with these regions/organizations.

4. Authoring Anteria’s constitutions, and creating a guide for other regions on how to effectively construct their own.
Contributing to the growth of Anteria through continuous and dedicated recruitment efforts, which is now home to over 400 nations.

Desiring to celebrate Emiline’s exemplary long-term success in constructing and maintaining regions and interregional alliances, seen through:

1. Emiline played a vital role in the rise of the inter-regional alliance URA, ensuring that Anteria was a founding member and active within the alliance. This ultimately gave the URA immediate legitimacy with a large region joining in a matter of weeks of its founding.
Emiline's accomplishments as the URA’s Deputy Director of Recruitment, where the recruitment of numerous new regions like The Sportbook and Portugal, have expanded the cultural reach of the alliance through the inclusion of sports-themed and multi-language regions.
2. Emiline's recent induction into the URA Hall of Fame for their hard work in ensuring the alliance as a whole grew and prospered.

Hereby COMMENDS Emiline.

Co-authored by polder_eiland,DiRito-Opolis, and Lesser Velutaria.


Draft 2:

the Security Council,

Recognizing that the government of Emiline controls that of Zhengan, the founder of Anteria; as well as of Prybourne, a nation whose seminal role in Anteria includes:
  1. Helping to build its flourishing and highly-regarded worldbuilding community, which allows for nations to share in detail their history, culture, and language development within Anteria. Even offer theme week events to expand the worldbuilding experience,
  2. Development of the immense and unique world of Anteria lore that ensured Anteria standouts as a unique region that attracts a variety of citizens that are from many different cultures and speak a variety of languages,
  3. Creation of the Sumo Club, which has attracted interest from many regions and introduced them to the sport of Sumo Wrestling, as one of their great innovations which have added immense value to the cultural make-up of many regions,
  4. Constantly promoting a strong, active, and security-focused World Assembly presence in the region, which now ranks 15th in the world for most average endorsements,
  5. Establishing Anteria’s declarations of friendship with the AA and Karma, expanding its cultural, defense, and World Assembly cooperation with these regions and organizations,
  6. Introducing Anteria as a founding member of the URA, an interregional alliance and World Assembly voting bloc, a move which no doubt granted the URA widespread legitimacy and recognition, and
  7. Not only authoring Anteria’s constitutions but also creating a comprehensive guide for other regions on how to effectively construct their own,

Desiring to celebrate Emiline’s exemplary long-term success in helping to recruit new and diverse regions to the URA (such as the sports-focused region of The Sportsbook and the multilingual region of Portugal) as its Deputy Director of Recruitment - work which helped ensure that the whole URA grew and prospered, and for which they were recently inducted into the URA's Hall of Fame, and

Convinced that Emiline's work to further culture, creativity, constructive regional growth, and common-sense foreign policy throughout the world deserves to be recognized:

Exuberant at Emira Emi of Emiline’s ongoing service as an Administrator in the Augustin Alliance (also known as the AA), where they oversee its day-to-day operations by implementing strong central planning, promoting unity between the AA's member regions, and coordinating the AA's goals - work which has helped perpetuate the growth of the AA, its influence and World Assembly population even during the most challenging periods,

Impressed at Emiline's instrumental role in ensuring the AA's success and safety during the first five editions of the annual nuclear conflict known to the world as N-Day, where it captured three first-place and one third-place award in total (in addition to avoiding all radiation during the fourth N-Day); including through constructing a strong and mutually beneficial strategic bond between the AA and Anteria, as well as acting as an important mediator between the AA and other regions that may have otherwise hesitated to join nonaggression pacts with it,

Hereby COMMENDS Emiline.

Co-authors: Polder Eiland, DiRito-Opolis, Lesser Velutaria


Draft 3:
The Security Council,

Beliving that Emiline’s world-building and foreign affairs work in Anteria and abroad has had a lasting effect on the greater world community and should be commended;

Recognizing that the government of Emiline controls that of Zhengan, the founder of Anteria; as well as of Prybourne, a nation whose seminal role in Anteria includes:
  1. Helping to build its flourishing and highly-regarded worldbuilding community, which allows for nations to share in detail their history, culture, and language development within Anteria.
  2. Worked diligently to help to spread the immense and unique world of Anteria lore that ensured Anteria standouts as a unique region that attracts a variety of citizens that are from many different cultures and speak a variety of languages,
  3. Theme week topics that help nations to flesh out their unique aspect in the various nations such as currency, climate, wildlife, and unique aspects not normally covered in general nation-building,
  4. Promotion of cultural exchange amongst nations in Anteria so that each can be able to share what makes their nation unique to the Anteria and beyond,
  5. Creation of the Sumo Club, which has attracted interest from many regions and introduced them to the sport of Sumo Wrestling, as one of their great innovations which have added immense value to the cultural make-up of many regions,by which they host events, discussions and watch parties to bring more attention to the sport of Sumo Wrestling.
  6. Constantly promoting a strong, active, and security-focused World Assembly presence in the region, which now ranks 16th in the world for most average endorsements, which has led to Anteria being the 4th most powerful region in the United Regions Alliance voting bloc,

Desiring to celebrate Emiline’s exemplary long-term success in helping to recruit new and diverse regions to the United Regions Alliance such as the multilingual region of Portugal as its Deputy Director of Recruitment - work which helped ensure that the whole URA grew and prospered,

Applauding Emiline’s Introduction of Anteria as a founding member of the URA, an interregional alliance and World Assembly voting bloc known as United Regions Alliance, a move which no doubt granted the URA widespread legitimacy and recognition, and brought Anteria into the forefront as a leader in inter-regional politics and exposure in the great realms of the world stage.

Exuberant at Emira Emi of Emiline’s ongoing service as an Administrator in the Augustin Alliance, where they oversee its day-to-day operations by implementing strong central planning, promoting unity between the AA's member regions, and coordinating the AA's goals - work which has helped perpetuate the growth of the AA, its influence and World Assembly population even during the most challenging periods,

Impressed at Emiline's instrumental role in ensuring the AA's success and safety during the first five editions of the annual nuclear conflict known to the world as N-Day, where it captured three first-place and one third-place awards in total. In addition to avoiding all radiation during the fourth N-Day; including through constructing a strong and mutually beneficial strategic bond between the AA and Anteria, as well as acting as an important mediator between the AA and other regions;

Convinced that Emiline's work to further culture, creativity, constructive regional growth, and common-sense foreign policy throughout the world deserves to be recognized, Including:
  1. Establishing Anteria’s declarations of friendship with the Augustin Alliance (also known as the AA) and Karma, expanding its cultural and World Assembly cooperation them,
  2. Not only authoring Anteria’s constitutions but also creating a comprehensive guide for other regions on how to effectively construct their own, In doing so changed the government structure to ensure officials are held more accountable for doing there jobs within the region.


Hereby Commend Emiline.

Co-authors: Polder Eiland, DiRito-Opolis, Lesser Velutaria


Draft 4:
The Security Council,

Introducing Emiline as a nation whose world-building and foreign affairs work in Anteria and abroad has had a lasting effect on the greater world community and should be commended,

Acknowledging that the government of Emiline controls that of Zhengan, the founder and protector of Anteria, one of the largest and most significant regions in the world which contains hundreds of nations,

Recognizing that the government of Emiline also controls that of Prybourne, a nation whose seminal role in Anterian culture includes:
  1. Helping to build its flourishing and highly-regarded culture and community, which allows for nations to share in detail their history, culture, and language development, through events such as weekly theme topics which promote cultural exchange within the region,
  2. Working diligently to help to spread the immense and unique world of Anteria lore, ensuring that Anteria stands out as a unique region that attracts a variety of citizens that are from many different cultures and speak a variety of languages,
  3. Creating the Sumo Club, which has attracted interest from many regions and introduced them to the sport of Sumo Wrestling, as one of their great innovations which have added immense value to the cultural make-up of many regions,by which they host events, discussions and watch parties to bring more attention to the sport of Sumo Wrestling,


Further recognizing Emiline’s extensive efforts towards the administration of Anteria and the management of its foreign affairs, such as:
  1. Establishing Anteria’s declarations of friendship with the Augustin Alliance (also known as the AA) and Karma, expanding its cultural and World Assembly cooperation with them,
  2. Expanding of Anteria’s reach and influence in the world by establishing an embassy with Lazarus and most recently establishing a Declaration of Friendship treaty with The West Pacific, In the areas of defense, culture, and World Assembly cooperation that has solidified an already solid relationship they have made over the years.
  3. Authoring Anteria’s constitutions, establishing the basic foundation for the region, in addition to creating a comprehensive guide for other regions on how to effectively construct their own,
  4. Leading the recruiting efforts in Anteria to help it grow to the large region it is today. Providing recruiting support through various methods with one campaign netting over 500 nations.
  5. Constantly promoting a strong, active, and security-focused World Assembly presence in the region, which now ranks 16th in the world for most average endorsements, which has led to Anteria being the 4th most powerful region in the United Regions Alliance ([region]URA[/region) voting bloc,[/list]


Applauding Emiline’s introduction of Anteria as a founding member of the URA, a move which no doubt granted the URA widespread legitimacy and recognition, and brought Anteria into the forefront as a leader in inter-regional politics and exposure in the great realms of the world stage,

Desiring to celebrate Emiline’s exemplary long-term success in helping to recruit new and diverse regions to the United Regions Alliance such as the multilingual region of Portugal as its Deputy Director of Recruitment - work which helped to increase the size and strength of the URA,

Exuberant at Emira Emi of Emiline’s ongoing service as an Administrator in the Augustin Alliance, where they oversee its day-to-day operations by implementing strong central planning, promoting unity between the AA's member regions, and coordinating the AA's goals - work which has helped perpetuate the growth of the AA, its influence and World Assembly population even during the most challenging periods,

Impressed at Emiline's instrumental role in ensuring the AA's success and safety during the first five editions of the annual nuclear conflict known to the world as N-Day, where it captured three first-place and one third-place award in total. In addition to avoiding all radiation during the fourth N-Day, Emiline also constructed a strong and mutually beneficial strategic bond between the AA and Anteria, as well as acting as an important mediator between the AA and other regions,

Convinced that Emiline's work to further culture, creativity, constructive regional growth, and common-sense foreign policy throughout the world deserves to be recognized with the greatest award this Assembly can award,

Hereby commends Emiline.

Co-authors: DiRito-Opolis, Lesser Velutaria


Draft 5:
The Security Council,

Introducing Emiline as a nation whose world-building and foreign affairs work in Anteria and abroad has had a lasting effect on the greater world community;

Acknowledging that the government of Emiline controls that of Zhengan, the founder and protector of Anteria, one of the largest and most significant regions in the world which contains over 120 World Assembly member nations;

Recognizing that the government of Emiline also controls that of Prybourne, a nation whose seminal role in Anterian culture includes:
1. Helping to build its flourishing and highly-regarded community, which allows for nations to share in detail their history, culture, and language development, through events such as weekly theme topics which promote cultural exchange within the region,
2. Working diligently to help to spread the immense and unique world of Anteria lore, ensuring that Anteria stands out as a unique region that attracts a variety of nations with many different cultures and languages;
3. Creating the Sumo Club, in which they host events, discussions, and watch parties to bring more attention to the sport of Sumo Wrestling, attracting interest from many regions and adding immense value to their cultural make-up;

Further recognizing Emiline’s extensive efforts towards the administration of Anteria and the management of its foreign affairs, such as:
1. Establishing Anteria’s declarations of friendship with the Augustin Alliance (AA) and Karma, expanding its cultural and World Assembly cooperation with them;
2. Expanding Anteria’s reach and influence in the world by establishing an embassy with Lazarus, and most recently negotiating a Declaration of Friendship treaty with The West Pacific in the areas of defense, culture, and World Assembly cooperation, solidifying a strong relationship built over several years;
3. Authoring Anteria’s constitutions that establish the basic foundation for the region, in addition to creating a comprehensive guide for other regions on how to effectively construct their own;
4. Leading the recruiting efforts in Anteria to help it grow into the large region it is today and providing recruiting support through various methods, with one campaign netting over 500 nations;
5. Constantly promoting a strong, active, and security-focused World Assembly presence in the region, which now ranks 16th in the world for most average endorsements and is the 4th most powerful region in the United Regions Alliance (URA) voting bloc;

Applauding Emiline’s introduction of Anteria as a founding member of the URA, a move which no doubt granted the URA widespread legitimacy and recognition, and brought Anteria into the forefront as a leader in inter-regional politics and exposure in the great realms of the world stage;

Desiring to celebrate Emiline’s exemplary long-term success in helping to recruit new and diverse regions to the URA as its Deputy Director of Recruitment, such as the multilingual region of Portugal, aiding in the increase of the size and strength of the URA;

Exuberant at Emira Emi of Emiline’s ongoing service as an Administrator in the Augustin Alliance, where they oversee its day-to-day operations by implementing strong central planning, promoting unity between the AA's member regions, and coordinating the AA's goals, helping to perpetuate the growth of the AA, its influence and World Assembly population even during the most challenging periods;

Impressed at Emiline's instrumental role in ensuring the AA's success and safety during the first five editions of the annual nuclear conflict known to the world as N-Day, where it captured three first-place and one third-place award in total. In addition to avoiding all radiation during the fourth N-Day, Emiline also constructed a strong and mutually beneficial strategic bond between the AA and Anteria, as well as acting as an important mediator between the AA and other regions;

Convinced that Emiline's work to further culture, creativity, constructive regional growth, and common-sense foreign policy throughout the world deserves to be recognized with the greatest award this Assembly can bestow upon a nation;

Hereby commends Emiline.

Co-authors: DiRito-Opolis, Lesser Velutaria
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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:57 pm

Just a quick post before more substantive talk. She is a rule violation, so try using "they, them" and other words instead of gender pronouns. You want to write to the nation, not the player behind the nation.
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Postby Free Azell » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:59 pm

Thanks! Will fix that now.

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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:02 pm

Please mark your [DRAFT]s accordingly.

Your current draft contains at least one formatting error and misses at least three opportunities to use the [list=1] tag - these should be fairly obvious.
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Postby Quebecshire » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:04 pm

Against any version of this that emphasizes their contributions to the AA before/over their contributions to Anteria. In theory, I am in favor of commending Emi as a general concept though. Solid region builder and good person. Though this draft does need a bit of work, at least in the realm of the narrative.
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Postby Quebecshire » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:06 pm

Another thing, Emi is also a big roleplayer through Anteria, yes? Could we get some focus on major things in those nations' lore, maybe? I'm not an expert on Anterian RP, but that may be something to look into.
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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:11 pm

Free Azell wrote:The Security Council,

Exuberant at Emira Emi of Emiline’s role as an Administrator in the Augustin Alliance, where she oversees the day-to-day operations of the alliance as a whole. Ensuring strong central planning, unity between the regions within the Alliance, and coordination of alliance goals. which has perpetuated the flourishing of the regions therein through both influence, and World Assembly nation growth despite the difficulties of maintaining population and growth during certain periods of time. "She" is a rule violation. Replace full stops here with semicolons.

Impressed that Emiline has been instrumental in ensuring the success and safety of the Augustin Alliance during the annual nuclear conflict, known to the world as N-Day, in the following ways:
Constructing a strong bond between the regions of Anteria and the Augustin Alliance to ensure mutually beneficial strategic operations; Like?
Acting as an important mediator between other regions that were otherwise hesitant to join nonaggression pacts with the Alliance; Example?
Commanding the defense forces of the Alliance, totaling zero radiation from the blasts in the fourth nuclear war;
Aiding the Alliance in capturing three first-place and one third-place awards in this contest; As Tinhampton pointed out, use list tags.

Noting Emiline’s control of the nations of Zhengan and Prybourne,

Celebrating Zhengan’s role as founder of Anteria for six years, as an instrumental part of the rise of Anteria in the world. Clause should be ended using a semicolon, not full stop.

Saluting Typo, should be "Saluting[/b] "the creation of the Sumo Club, which has attracted interest from many regions and introduced them to the sport of Sumo Wrestling; this is another example of innovations that Emiline has brought to the public, adding immense value to the cultural make-up of many regions. Who? What? Why should anyone care? Also, use a semicolon not a full stop to end clauses.

Awestruck by Prybourne’s central role in: Which central role, particularly in the first two? Also use semicolons or commas to end each list item, rather than full stops, and use list tags

1. Building the flourishing community within Anteria, which is now a mecca for world-building.

2. Encouraging the strong World Assembly presence in Anteria, which ranks 15th in the world for most average endorsements, achieved through the constant promotion of cross-endorsements in the region.

3. Establishing Anteria’s declarations of friendship with the Augustin Alliance and Karma, expanding its cultural, defense, and World Assembly cooperation with these regions/organizations.

4. Authoring Anteria’s constitutions, and creating a guide for other regions on how to effectively construct their own.

5.
Contributing to the growth of Anteria through continuous and dedicated recruitment efforts, which is now home to over 400 nations.

Desiring to celebrate "Desiring to celebrate" is so strange wording in context. Use a synonym of "celebrating" (since you already used Celebrating earlier on) instead of "Desiring to celebrate. Emiline’s exemplary long-term success in constructing and maintaining regions and interregional alliances, seen through:

1. Their vital role in the rise of the inter-regional alliance URA, ensuring that Anteria was a founding member and active within the alliance. This ultimately gave the URA immediate legitimacy with a large region joining in a matter of weeks of its founding. Use semicolons instead of full stops.
2. Their accomplishments as the URA’s Deputy Director of Recruitment, where her "her" is a rule violation recruitment of numerous new regions like The Sportbook and Portugal, have expanded the cultural reach of the alliance through the inclusion of sports-themed and multi-language regions.
2. Should be "3." Their recent induction into the URA Hall of Fame for their hard work in ensuring the alliance as a whole grew and prospered. Again, use a list tag. Also, use commas or semicolons to end the semi-clauses.

[b]Hereby[b] COMMENDS Emiline. [b]Hereby[b] is a formatting error, and why is "Commends" in all caps?

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Postby Giovanniland » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:24 pm

I'll post some feedback myself later, when I have time, though wanted to point out:

Apatosaurus wrote:Saluting Typo, should be "Saluting[/b] "the creation of the Sumo Club, which has attracted interest from many regions and introduced them to the sport of Sumo Wrestling; this is another example of innovations that Emiline has brought to the public, adding immense value to the cultural make-up of many regions. Who? What? Why should anyone care? Also, use a semicolon not a full stop to end clauses.

I think cultural things like this are an interesting contribution, so I think this should definitely stay if this is given as an example among other cultural events that Emi created. I don't check the Anteria discord server a lot, but I do believe that many games and other interesting activities are held for both residents and foreign visitors, many spearheaded by Emi, so this is a point worth looking into more as well.
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Postby Andusre » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:36 pm

Very heavily opposed.

Mentioning the AA is an immediate disqualifier for me, same with Anteria and Karma. What's left is not enough for a commendation.

Should this make it to vote, you can trust I & others will be going ham on counter-campaigning.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:38 pm

and I intend to counter-countercampaign if absolutely necessary :P
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Postby Minskiev » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:00 pm

Please ignore Apatosaurus' assertions that "full stops must be avoided in resolutions, period." (get it?)

To try and claim that the entire thing is one sentence would be ridiculous - the use of numbered, bullet-pointed, or any non-comma list breaks this. Moreover, the use of "The Security Council," at the top is to me a signature (to back up the rule that all resolutions must come from the Security Council itself) and so the entirety of the proposal comes from the Security Council fundamentally. Thus, breaking the proposal up into sentences, which would remove the subject normally, don't because of that signature. The subject is always present. Periods that disconnect the rest of the proposal from the signature up top don't cause grammatical errors.
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Postby Wayneactia » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:08 pm

Tinhampton wrote:and I intend to counter-countercampaign if absolutely necessary :P

What’s your beef here?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:16 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:and I intend to counter-countercampaign if absolutely necessary :P

What’s your beef here?

It could just be Tinhampton really wanting this proposal to pass instead of intentionally beefing with Thaecia and others


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Varanius
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Postby Varanius » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:17 pm

Andusre wrote:Very heavily opposed.

Mentioning the AA is an immediate disqualifier for me, same with Anteria and Karma. What's left is not enough for a commendation.

Should this make it to vote, you can trust I & others will be going ham on counter-campaigning.
And I fully intend to do the opposite. Your delegacy may be hot shit in your mind, but rest assured big old TEP will only take you so far in this world. I mean Conch Kingdom’s endos alone are bigger than yours. If you’d like to make this about petty politics that’s fine, but I can tell you for sure it’s not the strategy you seem to think it is.
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Postby Andusre » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:27 pm

Varanius wrote:
Andusre wrote:Very heavily opposed.

Mentioning the AA is an immediate disqualifier for me, same with Anteria and Karma. What's left is not enough for a commendation.

Should this make it to vote, you can trust I & others will be going ham on counter-campaigning.
And I fully intend to do the opposite. Your delegacy may be hot shit in your mind, but rest assured big old TEP will only take you so far in this world. I mean Conch Kingdom’s endos alone are bigger than yours. If you’d like to make this about petty politics that’s fine, but I can tell you for sure it’s not the strategy you seem to think it is.

At what point did I mention my delegacy or The East Pacific? Reading helps, Vara. I have the capacity to counter-campaign proposals I don't want to see passed, and that is what I said I intend to do should this come to vote.

A common thought I've seen, and indeed made myself, about your potshots recently is that you can just do better. Given how low-quality your agendaposting has been as of late, maybe I'm wrong. Stop trying so hard.

inb4 something to the effect of either "im just speaking facts" or "im sorry my potshots aren't tailored for your entertainment".
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Postby Varanius » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:32 pm

Andusre wrote:
Varanius wrote: And I fully intend to do the opposite. Your delegacy may be hot shit in your mind, but rest assured big old TEP will only take you so far in this world. I mean Conch Kingdom’s endos alone are bigger than yours. If you’d like to make this about petty politics that’s fine, but I can tell you for sure it’s not the strategy you seem to think it is.

At what point did I mention my delegacy or The East Pacific? Reading helps, Vara. I have the capacity to counter-campaign proposals I don't want to see passed, and that is what I said I intend to do should this come to vote.

A common thought I've seen, and indeed made myself, about your potshots recently is that you can just do better. Given how low-quality your agendaposting has been as of late, maybe I'm wrong. Stop trying so hard.

inb4 something to the effect of either "im just speaking facts" or "im sorry my potshots aren't tailored for your entertainment".

If you think my “agendaposts” (if that’s what you’d like to call them) are so poor, do feel free to simply stop responding. As Aiv can tell you, ignoring feedback is a time honored TEP tradition, and I assume that applies to their property of Thaecia just as much.
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Postby Quebecshire » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:37 pm

The above exchange is stupid for a number of reasons.

In all seriousness to the proposal,

1. Prioritize Anteria and put it at the forefront.

2. Incorporate more roleplay, lore, et cetrera. Anteria writes a lot of wiki, there is unlikely to be a shortage of information.

3. Improve the narrative/flow of the proposal.

More specifically, I am not sure about the expansion of "defense" via Anteria's relationship with the AA and Karma. Even if it did exist, it's unlikely commendable. Karma does very little regular r/d (Anteria even less, the furthest recent extent of their involvement being unofficial Anterian mercenacies making an appearance in Trovons), and the Joint Task Force is effectively non-existent right now. I would encourage replacing that.
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Postby Andusre » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:39 pm

Varanius wrote:
Andusre wrote:At what point did I mention my delegacy or The East Pacific? Reading helps, Vara. I have the capacity to counter-campaign proposals I don't want to see passed, and that is what I said I intend to do should this come to vote.

A common thought I've seen, and indeed made myself, about your potshots recently is that you can just do better. Given how low-quality your agendaposting has been as of late, maybe I'm wrong. Stop trying so hard.

inb4 something to the effect of either "im just speaking facts" or "im sorry my potshots aren't tailored for your entertainment".

If you think my “agendaposts” (if that’s what you’d like to call them) are so poor, do feel free to simply stop responding. As Aiv can tell you, ignoring feedback is a time honored TEP tradition, and I assume that applies to their property of Thaecia just as much.

I will not give you the space to make posts that say patently false bullshit without being challenged on it.

Anyway, I think it's time to stop before this becomes a threadjack.
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Postby Wayneactia » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:What’s your beef here?

It could just be Tinhampton really wanting this proposal to pass instead of intentionally beefing with Thaecia and others

I could have sworn to God that meddling in affairs' that were none of her concern landed Tin in some toasty water before?
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Postby Apatosaurus » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:46 pm

Minskiev wrote:Please ignore Apatosaurus' assertions that "full stops must be avoided in resolutions, period." (get it?)

To try and claim that the entire thing is one sentence would be ridiculous - the use of numbered, bullet-pointed, or any non-comma list breaks this. Moreover, the use of "The Security Council," at the top is to me a signature (to back up the rule that all resolutions must come from the Security Council itself) and so the entirety of the proposal comes from the Security Council fundamentally. Thus, breaking the proposal up into sentences, which would remove the subject normally, don't because of that signature. The subject is always present. Periods that disconnect the rest of the proposal from the signature up top don't cause grammatical errors.

Not to threadjack, but no it's not ridiculous. As to "the use of numbered, bullet-pointed, or any non-comma list breaks this", no it doesn't? I just see the use of numbers or bullet points as just formatting; for example "The Security Council, Noting that: 1) dinosaurs have legs 2) this has been proven by scientific research and 3) dinosaurs are not legless, hereby declares that dinosaurs do not have legs." is absolutely a whole sentence.

As to your point about "The Security Council," being a signature, that's at least not how I personally see it. The way I see it, the entire proposal is a sentence, using a full stop breaks that sentence, plain and simple. So yes, "The Security Council, Noting that dinosaurs have legs. This has been proven by scientific research. Aware that dinosaurs are not legless, hereby declares that dinosaurs do not have legs." is absolutely a grammatical error, unless "Aware that dinosaurs are not legless, hereby declares that dinosaurs do not have legs." somehow has a subject there.
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Postby Thousand Branches » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:25 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:
Minskiev wrote:Please ignore Apatosaurus' assertions that "full stops must be avoided in resolutions, period." (get it?)

To try and claim that the entire thing is one sentence would be ridiculous - the use of numbered, bullet-pointed, or any non-comma list breaks this. Moreover, the use of "The Security Council," at the top is to me a signature (to back up the rule that all resolutions must come from the Security Council itself) and so the entirety of the proposal comes from the Security Council fundamentally. Thus, breaking the proposal up into sentences, which would remove the subject normally, don't because of that signature. The subject is always present. Periods that disconnect the rest of the proposal from the signature up top don't cause grammatical errors.

Not to threadjack, but no it's not ridiculous. As to "the use of numbered, bullet-pointed, or any non-comma list breaks this", no it doesn't? I just see the use of numbers or bullet points as just formatting; for example "The Security Council, Noting that: 1) dinosaurs have legs 2) this has been proven by scientific research and 3) dinosaurs are not legless, hereby declares that dinosaurs do not have legs." is absolutely a whole sentence.

As to your point about "The Security Council," being a signature, that's at least not how I personally see it. The way I see it, the entire proposal is a sentence, using a full stop breaks that sentence, plain and simple. So yes, "The Security Council, Noting that dinosaurs have legs. This has been proven by scientific research. Aware that dinosaurs are not legless, hereby declares that dinosaurs do not have legs." is absolutely a grammatical error, unless "Aware that dinosaurs are not legless, hereby declares that dinosaurs do not have legs." somehow has a subject there.

Quick note here, this is technically opinion afaik. There is no rule about splitting sentences in the SC, only that your proposal has to be from the perspective of the WA and must contain an operative clause at the end. Yes, in almost all cases, resolutions flow as generally one convoluted sentence from beginning to end, but it is not illegal or incorrect not to do so.

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Postby Emodea » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:08 pm

Apatosaurus wrote:Who? What? Why should anyone care? Also, use a semicolon not a full stop to end clauses.

Are we really going over this again? It's a stylistic choice that many authors (including some well-regarded ones like Xoriet and HS) use and it has been well-received in this community. This isn't a hill worth dying on.

I'll give some actual feedback later on.
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Postby Warden Quebecshire » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:32 pm

It's clearly a matter of debate with nobody being explicitly right or wrong. I don't care if people want to use full stops or not. Let authors write what they want to write how they want to write it as long as it fits the rules and a general level of decorum/quality. We are here to debate cemmandability and to ensure distinguished players get the best representation they can in these recognitions. Not to argue about stylistic and subjective punctuation for hours.

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Postby Praeceps » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:56 am

I can only support resolutions with clauses that end in exclamation marks!
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:05 am

Proposal format is just a habit that UN/WA authors have got into, based primarily off RL UN legislation. Authors can (within the rules etc. etc.) write proposals with whatever format and style they want, whether that be ultra concise, poetry, or full-on Onderwall paragraphs (though maybe break those up with headings).

I'd be interested in seeing more variety to the format people use for SC proposals. What matters is that it conveys its message clearly, and is enjoyable to read.

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