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[DRAFT] The Hierarchy between Authors and Co-Authors

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:27 pm
by Warzone Codger
Warwick Z Codger was snoozing in his sleepy chambers. It's more of a private retreat these days, when he wanted to get away from the bickering of tis advisers. After all it was been over 6 years since he penned his last resolution, the lyrical Commend Haiku. Happily retired, he was startled awake by a constant clink, clank and thud from the floors below.

"What's that racket?!", he growled to no particular aide

"It's the gnomes sir, they are working overtime smelting over 100 new trophies to send to 'co-authors'. With over a 1000 resolutions passed there is a lot to catch-up"

"Who authorised this? I'm not acknowledging any hanger-on 'co-authors' who can't write a resolution with the same recognition as real authors"

"Well...umm...building management. When the WA was formed it signed a perpetual outsourcing contract to administrate operations, like posting proposals, tallying the votes, sending telegrams...we never thought the gnomes would change policies too. Nothing we can do about it, though we now are able to send strongly worded messages with the new 'Declaration' resolution.

'To the Security Council then! Before those 'Co-authors' get too comfy.


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The World Assembly,

ACKNOWLEDGING the administration of the World Assembly had decided to confer co-authoring nations the same benefits and privileges as those of nations who author and submit resolutions,

NOTING these benefits include a trophy sent to the nation, increased rarity of artworks depicting the nation, increased respect from the international community and eternal rights for rulers to reclaim their lands regardless of the period of their absence.

CONCEDING these chambers of the World Assembly, despite infinite jurisdiction to make legislation and issue commends, condemns and declarations are powerless at directing its own internal operations.

NEVERTHELESS desiring members of this Assembly to express their opposition against forced equality without equal effort.

DECLARES:

- The AUTHOR is the singular nation which submits the resolution, with their nation appearing in the headline of the bill.

- The CO-AUTHOR nations are other contributors to the resolution, which only appears within the minutiae of the resolution.

- The AUTHOR nation is the main contributor to any resolution and deserving of higher recognition than CO-AUTHORs.

- The contributions made by CO-AUTHORING nations have no value if not for the leadership of the AUTHOR nation to bring about a Resolution, therefore it should not be entitled to equal privileges.

- ENCOURAGES nations which have sponsored resolutions as CO-AUTHORS to strive higher to become an AUTHOR nation and propose new resolutions into the World Assembly

- REMINDS the international community there is a preordained hierarchy between AUTHORS and CO-AUTHORS

- ASSERTS individual nations to review their own diplomatic policies such that a proportional level of recognition is given to AUTHORS compared to CO AUTHORS


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This is in response to the Recognition and badges for WA/Issues co-authors change which was recently implemented. Do I really oppose the change? You decide, but not enough to make a post in Technical about it. I think it would be an interesting Declaration, focusing on the political (in-character) impacts of a game change and adding some lore to the WA as well.

Happy to take on co-authors, if they acknowledge their position in the hierarchy. ;)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:32 pm
by Hulldom
Very, very well done. Excited to see where this goes!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:34 pm
by Minskiev
For the first clause, since this is from the World Assembly, you might want to change it a little.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:42 pm
by Wallenburg
Oh wow, yet another lazy declaration that does nothing but remind people how the game works. Truly, this speaks to the unique quality of work typical in this chamber.

EDIT: Ah, now I get it. Still not interested, but at least there's a true value judgement made, even if it's not one of any importance.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:01 pm
by Warzone Codger
Minskiev wrote:For the first clause, since this is from the World Assembly, you might want to change it a little.


"My language might have been unclear. I believe the World Assembly has legislative chambers compromising of nations, but also as an operation function managing administration and compliance which we have outsourced to the gnomes. Alas, it was very unexpected that the gnomes have minds of their own. Therefore it is from the World Assembly, but speaking out against a section of the WA which we have no control. Do you have any suggestions on how to rephrase this?"

Wallenburg wrote:Oh wow, yet another lazy declaration that does nothing but remind people how the game works. Truly, this speaks to the unique quality of work typical in this chamber.


"Mr...Ogenbond, I believe? You might consider it long-winded but there is a point beyond explaining procedures. Co-authors should not have the same benefits as Authors. I felt I should point out the benefits Authors get, the relative contributions of Authors and Co-authors, which would show why Co-authors are not equal"

(You do IC in the SC? I'm aiming to do this IC..as OOC it is incredibly petty.)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:54 pm
by Outer Sparta
Whoa you actually did it! While I question the merits of making authors and co-authors equals, I do appreciate you following through.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:48 am
by Giovanniland
Warzone Codger wrote:
Minskiev wrote:For the first clause, since this is from the World Assembly, you might want to change it a little.


"My language might have been unclear. I believe the World Assembly has legislative chambers compromising of nations, but also as an operation function managing administration and compliance which we have outsourced to the gnomes. Alas, it was very unexpected that the gnomes have minds of their own. Therefore it is from the World Assembly, but speaking out against a section of the WA which we have no control. Do you have any suggestions on how to rephrase this?"


Perhaps change the opening words to "The Security Council," instead of "The World Assembly,"?

On an unrelated note, I am also wondering why did you decide to write authors and co-authors in all caps in a number of clauses. I don't think that's needed, and there's at least one place where you forgot the hyphen in co-author so that should be fixed for consistency.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:59 am
by Thousand Branches
Some edits to this resolution for grammatical/word-smithing things :)

Warzone Codger wrote:ACKNOWLEDGING the administration of the World Assembly had decided to confer co-authoring nations the same benefits and privileges as those of nations who author and submit resolutions,

"the administration" --> "that the administration".

"had" should be "has".

Warzone Codger wrote:NOTING these benefits include a trophy sent to the nation, increased rarity of artworks depicting the nation, increased respect from the international community and eternal rights for rulers to reclaim their lands regardless of the period of their absence.

"these benefits" should be "that these benefits".

Maybe "recognizing"? "NOTING" really doesn't fit well with the rest of the clause.

"artworks" should be "artwork".

"increased respect" can probably just be "respect" or alternatively something like "substantial respect". Using "increased" twice in such quick succession makes the clause clunky.

"and eternal rights" --> ", and eternal rights"

Warzone Codger wrote:CONCEDING these chambers of the World Assembly, despite infinite jurisdiction to make legislation and issue commends, condemns and declarations are powerless at directing its own internal operations.

I'm actually not sure what the heck happened with this clause? I'm gonna give a rewrite because I think that'll be the easiest way to show how to fix this?

"CONCEDING that these chambers of the World Assembly --- despite infinite jurisdiction to make legislation and issue commends, condemns, and declarations --- are powerless at directing its own internal operations."

Just did em dashes around that middle section to clarify that it is its own dependent clause plus a comma. Small details for a full rewrite but I don't wanna rewrite these edits now xD

Warzone Codger wrote:NEVERTHELESS desiring members of this Assembly to express their opposition against forced equality without equal effort.

"to express" --> "to be able to express"

Warzone Codger wrote:- The AUTHOR is the singular nation which submits the resolution, with their nation appearing in the headline of the bill.

Any reason why this isn't a list?

"which" should be "that"

Warzone Codger wrote:- The CO-AUTHOR nations are other contributors to the resolution, which only appears within the minutiae of the resolution.

I'd argue "within the minutiae" is very innacurate. They are clearly outlined and formatted differently at the bottom of the resolution to make them stand out so they aren't really lost within the tiny details or something.

"only appear" --> "appear only"

Warzone Codger wrote:- The AUTHOR nation is the main contributor to any resolution and deserving of higher recognition than CO-AUTHORs.

I feel like "nation" can be ommitted here.

"any resolution" --> "their submitted resolution"

"than CO-AUTHORs" --> "than any CO-AUTHORS"

Warzone Codger wrote:- The contributions made by CO-AUTHORING nations have no value if not for the leadership of the AUTHOR nation to bring about a Resolution, therefore it should not be entitled to equal privileges.

"leadership" is a weird word. Perhaps "initiative"?

"to bring about" --> "in bringing about"

"Resolution" should not be capitalized.

"it should" --> "they should" as you talked about co-authors as plural earlier in the clause.

Warzone Codger wrote:- ENCOURAGES nations which have sponsored resolutions as CO-AUTHORS to strive higher to become an AUTHOR nation and propose new resolutions into the World Assembly

"which" --> "that"

Delete "higher". It is a flow killer and unnecessary as it's made very clear in this resolution that being an author is better than being a co-author.

Warzone Codger wrote:- REMINDS the international community there is a preordained hierarchy between AUTHORS and CO-AUTHORS

"community there is a preordained hierarchy" --> "community that a preordained hierarchy exists"

Warzone Codger wrote:- ASSERTS individual nations to review their own diplomatic policies such that a proportional level of recognition is given to AUTHORS compared to CO AUTHORS

"asserts" is grammatically incorrect, but something like "requests" or "directs" would work.

"CO AUTHORS" should be "CO-AUTHORS", or at least that's what it's been for all the other instances in the resolution

Hope these edits have been helpful! Have a wonderful day~

-A

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:09 pm
by Unibot III
This isn’t true though, a WA Author is the submitter of the resolution.

The Co-Author may in fact have written all or most of the text, and may even play a formative role in the passage of the resolution.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:59 am
by Honeydewistania
The top of the hierarchy should be ghostwriters

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:21 am
by Outer Sparta
Unibot III wrote:This isn’t true though, a WA Author is the submitter of the resolution.

The Co-Author may in fact have written all or most of the text, and may even play a formative role in the passage of the resolution.

Whilst this is true, how many resolutions were passed that contained the majority of words/formatting by the co-author? I think that's very hard to determine unless you actually know how that particular resolution was drafted and the process it went through. In most cases, I notice that the co-author is just simply a helper and plays some supporting cast while the author has basically constructed most of it themselves.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:33 am
by Tinhampton
Outer Sparta wrote:
Unibot III wrote:This isn’t true though, a WA Author is the submitter of the resolution.

The Co-Author may in fact have written all or most of the text, and may even play a formative role in the passage of the resolution.

Whilst this is true, how many resolutions were passed that contained the majority of words/formatting by the co-author? I think that's very hard to determine unless you actually know how that particular resolution was drafted and the process it went through. In most cases, I notice that the co-author is just simply a helper and plays some supporting cast while the author has basically constructed most of it themselves.

Unibot himself contributed the bulk of SC#28 "Commend Sionis Prioratus" and GA#80 "A Promotion of Basic Education."