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[DROPPED :(] Condemm Palcania

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Perikuresu
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Postby Perikuresu » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:56 am

Picairn wrote:Great, another joke proposal.

Palcania is a nuisance as far as I heard but like, not to the point of this, imagine if this gets to the SC, then we should probably just abolish the bloody thing
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East Supple Lund
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Postby East Supple Lund » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:57 am

Just a tip, but if you want this to actually succeed, you need to provide more concrete examples of his “crimes”. Nation names, dates, way more detail then what you have here. Otherwise, this is never going to pass.

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Drew Durrnil
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:58 am

You shouldn't add site rule violations to this proposal, as they should be reported to the mods and not put in an SC proposal.
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Postby Friently » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:00 am

For those thinking its a joke, it isn't. OP & co just have an obsession with subject nation. Please refrain from boosting it.
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Them Chic
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Postby Them Chic » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:00 am

Palcania wrote:I am Palcania and I approve this message.

Lol

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Lumio Magika
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Postby Lumio Magika » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:11 am

I may not be the most experienced resolution author, but I can tell the difference between a well-written proposal and a bad one. Condemns are meant for nations that have done some heinous act, not nations that don't play nice. All of Palcania's "offenses" are extremely common on NS. If this was condemnable, a large portion of NS would have condemns. I'm not up to date on SC rules, but I'll list a few things that would likely be a violation:

1. "selfishness" is not condemnable. It's a trait of the person OOC, and it has nothing to do with NS.

2. "Talking in favor of controversial topics" is very outside of the SC's jurisdiction. Every human is guaranteed the right to their own opinion (even if they don't voice them), and it's absurd to think that the SC would condemn somebody based off of their own personal beliefs, especially if they have no bearing on NS whatsoever.

3."warmongering" what do you mean by this? War doesn't exist in NS. If you mean that they attempted to raid someone, that's not condemnable. A vast portion of NS has done that, too. If you mean that they support wars IRL, then that's not condemnable. That's their IRL belief, and it has no bearing on NS.

4. "Insulting Almost Every TNP member" While this does somewhat relate to NS, it's still not condemnable. It's based on their behavior as a player, which is technically condemnable if you do it right, but it's almost impossible to use in a good proposal due to it's OOC nature.

5. "Referring other regions to Nazis" I don't see what you mean here. If you mean that they refer to other regions as Nazis, then see the above, and 2 as well. If they try to send other players to Nazi regions... well, that's possibly condemnable. It depends on the context.

6." Attempting Terrorism" gonna give any evidence of that? How did they attempt terrorism? Did they try to coup a region (which is pretty much the only "terrorism in NS)?

7. None of this has any evidence. Not a single bit of proof is provided to show that they did all these things. The SC doesn't accept "I'm telling the truth!" You have to prove that you're right, and right now, these are just baseless accusations.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:15 am

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:They haven't done anything notable that would be of SC recognition. I don't think you know what makes anyone condemnable and I suggest you abandon this draft.

“I’m not going to abandon the draft.”

You really should. You have no clue on what makes a nation Condemnable, you have no clue on how to write a Condemnation and you have no clue about the SC rules.
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Postby Esthe » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:16 am

Totally Real President Joe Biden wrote:Seems like somebody needs a 19 dollar fortnite card

I’m thinking that this is a bot.
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Postby Comfed » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:22 am

Esthe wrote:
Totally Real President Joe Biden wrote:Seems like somebody needs a 19 dollar fortnite card

I’m thinking that this is a bot.

It is a puppet of Palcania.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:24 am

Comfed wrote:
Esthe wrote:I’m thinking that this is a bot.

It is a puppet of Palcania.

There's also a good number of TNPers on the RMB coming here for some reason, which I don't know what their purpose is besides to feed the nominee and author more attention.
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Postby Comfed » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:26 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Comfed wrote:It is a puppet of Palcania.

There's also a good number of TNPers on the RMB coming here for some reason, which I don't know what their purpose is besides to feed the nominee and author more attention.

Palcania is immensely disliked on the TNP RMB. The idea for this first spawned there.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:54 am

Comfed wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:There's also a good number of TNPers on the RMB coming here for some reason, which I don't know what their purpose is besides to feed the nominee and author more attention.

Palcania is immensely disliked on the TNP RMB. The idea for this first spawned there.

If I made a resolution on someone disliked in my region's RMB, then it would be in the same state as this draft because that person isn't condemnable solely for being "disliked by the region RMB."
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Postby Comfed » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:51 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Comfed wrote:Palcania is immensely disliked on the TNP RMB. The idea for this first spawned there.

If I made a resolution on someone disliked in my region's RMB, then it would be in the same state as this draft because that person isn't condemnable solely for being "disliked by the region RMB."

I know, I'm not disputing that this resolution is a bad idea. Just providing context.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:52 pm

Comfed wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:If I made a resolution on someone disliked in my region's RMB, then it would be in the same state as this draft because that person isn't condemnable solely for being "disliked by the region RMB."

I know, I'm not disputing that this resolution is a bad idea. Just providing context.

Good to know, and at least this resolution got dropped.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:51 am

bro i remember this :lol2:

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