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Tinhampton wrote:

Parxland wrote:
Some alt-right seriously like to recruit teens and young adults in video games and radicalize them to the ideology. So in response to your question, the fascist community is a part of this game that I take seriously. If you ask me about anything else, my answer is probably not.

My question is why don't you remove those two embassies, since you have the power to do it yourself? Doing that will shut me up pretty quickly.

Name me one member of Createmino Region (or allied regions) who has been "radicalize[d] to" "alt-right" or "the fascist community" as a result of the embassies constructed with Barbaria or Genua.

OOC: Huh? That doesn't make sense to me Tinhampton. How am I going to know if that's happened with people between those communities? I just stated what some alt-right do as a general fact. I can't name you any members, plus if I did then I would have probably reported it already.

A stagnant region that has done nothing to promote fascism (and if you can prove otherwise, actually add that to your draft), simply having an embassy with Genua. All this does is give them attention, and is a complete waste of time.

Parxland wrote:

Tinhampton wrote:Name me one member of Createmino Region (or allied regions) who has been "radicalize[d] to" "alt-right" or "the fascist community" as a result of the embassies constructed with Barbaria or Genua.

Huh? That doesn't make sense to me Tinhampton. How am I going to know if that's happened with people between those communities? I just stated what some alt-right do as a general fact. I can't name you any members, plus if I did then I would have probably reported it already.

If you want to fight fascism on the site, then join an anti-fascist raider group. Pointless liberations of fasicst regions don't do anything against fascism.

Normally when we see regions with fascist embassies, they are asked politely to close them or they are embassy raided. I'm not sure why you'd Liberate this random tiny region instead of trying the fascist region with which the embassy is held.

Parxland wrote:

Tinhampton wrote:Name me one member of Createmino Region (or allied regions) who has been "radicalize[d] to" "alt-right" or "the fascist community" as a result of the embassies constructed with Barbaria or Genua.

Huh? That doesn't make sense to me Tinhampton. How am I going to know if that's happened with people between those communities? I just stated what some alt-right do as a general fact. I can't name you any members, plus if I did then I would have probably reported it already.

So you have admitted that Barbaria and Genua have ended up creating/recruiting zero fascists combined from the Createmino empire (that you know of).

Please remind me again: why do you think that this will not open the door for the Security Council to Liberate regions simply because they hold embassies that it finds distasteful - which is no better than CAIN's tactics against "Nazi Collaborator" regions were?

Tinhampton wrote:

Parxland wrote:
Huh? That doesn't make sense to me Tinhampton. How am I going to know if that's happened with people between those communities? I just stated what some alt-right do as a general fact. I can't name you any members, plus if I did then I would have probably reported it already.

So you have admitted that Barbaria and Genua have ended up creating/recruiting zero fascists combined from the Createmino empire (that you know of).

Please remind me again: why do you think that this will not open the door for the Security Council to Liberate regions simply because they hold embassies that it finds distasteful - which is no better than CAIN's tactics against "Nazi Collaborator" regions were?

OOC: What is CAIN?

Did you try contacting the region and informing them of the fascists they’re associated with before going for the nuclear option?

In any case, it will be a while before this region gets raided by Antifa (if we decide to raid it), because we’re currently all held up in The Coalition of Fascist Nations

It's a roleplay region. It doesn't even have the fascist tag.

Also the argument of embassies with regions with fascist embassies is so weak. As I said, you can get to Genua from every GCR through no more then five regions, so are all GCR's fascist?

The Python wrote:It's a roleplay region. It doesn't even have the fascist tag.

Also the argument of embassies with regions with fascist embassies is so weak. As I said, you can get to Genua from every GCR through no more then five regions, so are all GCR's fascist?

Exactly. It's like claiming that a region is pro-raider because they have an embassy with someone who has an embassy with a region like the Black hawks.

Tevuros wrote:

The Python wrote:It's a roleplay region. It doesn't even have the fascist tag.

Also the argument of embassies with regions with fascist embassies is so weak. As I said, you can get to Genua from every GCR through no more then five regions, so are all GCR's fascist?

Exactly. It's like claiming that a region is pro-raider because they have an embassy with someone who has an embassy with a region like the Black hawks.

So XKI is raider because they and Lone Wolves United have embassies with the East Pacific? Yeah it's the worst argument ever.

Parxland wrote: and the promotion of fascist propaganda in it's RMB.

got to point this out, but what? where did you get an idea that we were promoting fascist propaganda in our RMB? is sussus amongus now fascist? seriously, at this point you're just fabricating things, if anything, we're against fascism.

Ultimus Tritonis wrote:

Parxland wrote: and the promotion of fascist propaganda in it's RMB.

got to point this out, but what? where did you get an idea that we were promoting fascist propaganda in our RMB? is sussus amongus now fascist? seriously, at this point you're just fabricating things, if anything, we're against fascism.

You could try axing the embassy with Barbaria and Creatopia's embassy with Genua if you can arrange that. Then this liberation has no ammunition.

Against for the reasons Xoriet pointed out, in addition to the fact than one embassy connection is not remotely sufficient grounds for a liberation.

No support from me, and it's worth noting that the founder revived about twelve minutes ago.

The owner of Createmino Region here. I have to restore back Spruska just to reply to this.

First of all, we're just nation roleplayers from an online communication app called Amino. We're not an alt-right group, nor any political group or even any political supporter. We're just roleplayers doing nation roleplay and basically having fun.

Second, I don't know about any of these embassy and us, the CM region allegedly supporting fascist or nazism but just because we built an embassy in whatever region, doesn't mean we support nor show any sympathy to their stuff, their political ideology, fascism.

Once again, we're just a non-affiliated (to any political group, specifically to fascism, in this case) roleplaying region.

I'm sorry for your loss due to the alt-right stuff but please, we're just a simple roleplaying region, just having fun with nation roleplay (tho pretty much dead rn.)

Another thing, I want to point out. I withdrew embassy from Barbaria, just to stop this dumb argument from continuing on.

Argument over, continue with your everyday life.

In conclusion: total waste of time.

Spruska wrote:Another thing, I want to point out. I withdrew embassy from Barbaria, just to stop this dumb argument from continuing on.

Argument over, continue with your everyday life.

OP, now that the region is withdrawing the embassy, will you abide by your word and pull this pointless proposal?

Parx, this is the 2nd biggest joke in NS rn, the biggest being your flatlining career.

Honeydewistania wrote:

Ultimus Tritonis wrote:got to point this out, but what? where did you get an idea that we were promoting fascist propaganda in our RMB? is sussus amongus now fascist? seriously, at this point you're just fabricating things, if anything, we're against fascism.

You could try axing the embassy with Barbaria and Creatopia's embassy with Genua if you can arrange that. Then this liberation has no ammunition.

Partially arranged according to region logs:

10 hours ago: The Republic of Spruska ordered the closure of embassies between Createmino Region and Barbaria.

Let’s face it a proposal that even Tin won’t rubber stamp has got to be pretty shite. And looking at some of the recent execrable ones that made it to the vote that’s saying something.

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Let’s face it a proposal that even Tin won’t rubber stamp has got to be pretty shite. And looking at some of the recent execrable ones that made it to the vote that’s saying something.

It doesn't help that one of the supposed "justifications" for this proposal is now being closed.

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Let’s face it a proposal that even Tin won’t rubber stamp has got to be pretty shite. And looking at some of the recent execrable ones that made it to the vote that’s saying something.

Unless Parx is going on a campaign telegram spree about asking rubber stamper delegates to approve this bad proposal, it will die an uneventful death in the approval stage.

Outer Sparta wrote:

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Let’s face it a proposal that even Tin won’t rubber stamp has got to be pretty shite. And looking at some of the recent execrable ones that made it to the vote that’s saying something.

Unless Parx is going on a campaign telegram spree about asking rubber stamper delegates to approve this bad proposal, it will die an uneventful death in the approval stage.

My delegate rubber stamps pretty much anything and I do not see him approving this garbage. If he does, I'll ask him to rescind his approval.

Seeing as the target of this liberation has withdrawn their embassy with the fash region Barbaria, I'm going to go ahead and withdraw this resolution. I guess I should note there's no game mechanic for authors to unilaterally withdraw submitted proposals. Just let the timer expire.

Parxland wrote:there's no game mechanic for authors to unilaterally withdraw submitted proposals

Incorrect - click here, scroll to the bottom and click on the red button that says "Withdraw Proposal" (or wording to that effect)