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[Withdrawn] Liberate Createmino Region

Postby Parxland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:35 am

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Liberate Createmino Region

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Createmino Region

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[b]Noting
at first look that Createmino Region appears to be a backwater region.

Surprised to learn about the region's use of it's proxy Creatopia to support the vile ideology known as Nazism/Fascism and it's relationship with the nazi region Genua through an embassy in Creatopia, holding an embassy with the fascist-sympathizing Barbaria, and the promotion of fascist propaganda in it's RMB.

Reminded of this body's support combatting all bastions and supporters of the vile, discriminatory and intolerant fascist/nazi ideology.

Positive that through liberation by this body, Createmino Region will be made vulnerable to antifascist action.

Hereby Liberates Createmino Region
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:41 am

Is that the best you can come up with? It’s not very well written, it’s basically an SC cliche. And your last clause is completely nonsensical.

Let’s not give them any publicity and an already moribund region will just wither and die.

Zero support from me. Next!
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:43 am

Proposed rewrite (in full):
The Security Council hereby liberates Creatopia for having an embassy with the fascist region of Genua.

:P
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:06 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Proposed rewrite (in full):
The Security Council hereby liberates Creatopia for having an embassy with the fascist region of Genua.

:P

For once I’m going to agree with you - that’s basically all the substance of the draft.

Edit: Looks like it’s been submitted. Shame the author is not literate enough to know the difference between “its” and “it’s”.
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Postby Parxland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:15 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Proposed rewrite (in full):
The Security Council hereby liberates Creatopia for having an embassy with the fascist region of Genua.

:P

For once I’m going to agree with you - that’s basically all the substance of the draft.

Edit: Looks like it’s been submitted. Shame the author is not literate enough to know the difference between “its” and “it’s”.


OOC: Don't be a grammar nazi. :p
Regarding the "substance" of this proposal, there's no need to beat around the bush. This is a region that supports fascists and nazis. That's enough to get the antifascist boot.
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Postby Varanius » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:22 pm

Parxland wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:For once I’m going to agree with you - that’s basically all the substance of the draft.

Edit: Looks like it’s been submitted. Shame the author is not literate enough to know the difference between “its” and “it’s”.


Don't be a grammar nazi. :p

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Postby Quebecshire » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:26 pm

A terribly written proposal to liberate a region of 8 nations? No thank you, next.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:56 pm

Parxland wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:For once I’m going to agree with you - that’s basically all the substance of the draft.

Edit: Looks like it’s been submitted. Shame the author is not literate enough to know the difference between “its” and “it’s”.


OOC: Don't be a grammar nazi. :p
Regarding the "substance" of this proposal, there's no need to beat around the bush. This is a region that supports fascists and nazis. That's enough to get the antifascist boot.

Substance? Substance? Where is it. The only thing I can see with this proposal is a..., no, must not say it, must not say badge hunt.

And honestly referencing Genua? They are the biggest joke in Gameplay. They couldn’t organise a booze up in a brewery, never mind a decent invasion.
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Postby Parxland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:59 pm

Varanius wrote:Have you ever had an opinion that wasn’t an absolute joke?


OOC: I've lost family because of alt-right idiots and their supporters. It's not a joke that I'm genuinely disgusted when I see fascists or their supporters, and I want them purged from this game.
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Postby The Python » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:22 pm

They don't actually have an embassy with Genua if that's what you mean

EDIT: OK you meant they have an embassy with Creatopia which in turn has embassies with Genua. Not my brightest moment >_> This should be clearer though imo.

Still, this could use a lot more content in it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:35 pm

Not even a region worth the SC's time to liberate.

Parxland wrote:
Varanius wrote:Have you ever had an opinion that wasn’t an absolute joke?


OOC: I've lost family because of alt-right idiots and their supporters. It's not a joke that I'm genuinely disgusted when I see fascists or their supporters, and I want them purged from this game.

Are you insinuating that BBD and Vara are fascist supporters just because they didn't think the region you are targeting is worthy of a liberation?
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Postby The Python » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:39 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Not even a region worth the SC's time to liberate.

Parxland wrote:
OOC: I've lost family because of alt-right idiots and their supporters. It's not a joke that I'm genuinely disgusted when I see fascists or their supporters, and I want them purged from this game.

Are you insinuating that BBD and Vara are fascist supporters just because they didn't think the region you are targeting is worthy of a liberation?

Also did you know that every GCR you can get to Genua through it's embassies within at most 5?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:42 pm

The Python wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Not even a region worth the SC's time to liberate.


Are you insinuating that BBD and Vara are fascist supporters just because they didn't think the region you are targeting is worthy of a liberation?

Also did you know that every GCR you can get to Genua through it's embassies within at most 5?

I also don't understand if this is supposed to be against Genua because it's clearly not and essentially targets a dead region and goes on a tangent with other regions it associates with.
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Postby Parxland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:48 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Not even a region worth the SC's time to liberate.

Parxland wrote:
OOC: I've lost family because of alt-right idiots and their supporters. It's not a joke that I'm genuinely disgusted when I see fascists or their supporters, and I want them purged from this game.

Are you insinuating that BBD and Vara are fascist supporters just because they didn't think the region you are targeting is worthy of a liberation?


OOC: I'm pretty confident Varanius is anti-fascist. I don't know BBD enough to know where their politics align but I can assume from their signature they're anti-fascist too. The answer to your question is a solid no.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:49 pm

So they have an embassy with a region that happens to have an embassy with a fascist region? Really? WTF? Not even worthy of a liberation and this is incredibly petty.
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Postby Westinor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:50 pm

I don't think there's any point to this. Against.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:56 pm

Here are my more specific criticisms behind your submission:

Noting at first look that Createmino Region appears to be a backwater region.

Uh huh. If they're a backwater region (that nobody seems to care about), why do you see a reason to liberate them?

Surprised to learn about the region's use of it's proxy Creatopia to support the vile ideology known as Nazism/Fascism and it's relationship with the nazi region Genua through an embassy in Creatopia, holding an embassy with the fascist-sympathizing Barbaria, and the promotion of fascist propaganda in it's RMB.

You're trying to liberate a region that has a proxy with another region that has ties with Genua? Both regions are essentially dead and again, it's very pointless to go out and liberate dead regions. Additionally, the its is misused, which essentially means "region's use of it is proxy Creatopia" which doesn't make any sense.

Reminded of this body's support combatting all bastions and supporters of the vile, discriminatory and intolerant fascist/nazi ideology.

A liberation of a dead region won't do much to combat hate.

Positive that through liberation by this body, Createmino Region will be made vulnerable to antifascist action.

There's also no point to this. Do you plan on having this region turned into an antifascist one, because it's not a very notable nor relevant region to be made "vulnerable to antifascist action."
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Postby Comfed » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:22 pm

Meh. No thanks. Not worth the time.

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Postby Tevuros » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:30 pm

Nope, not at all. As someone who once had an account there, I can tell you that Createmino region is locked by it's owners, due to them not wanting members who aren't from the social media community they originated from. They aren't controlled by raiders. Wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't make it to the voting stage.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:30 pm

Parxland wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Not even a region worth the SC's time to liberate.


Are you insinuating that BBD and Vara are fascist supporters just because they didn't think the region you are targeting is worthy of a liberation?


OOC: I'm pretty confident Varanius is anti-fascist. I don't know BBD enough to know where their politics align but I can assume from their signature they're anti-fascist too. The answer to your question is a solid no.

Just as fucking well. My dad was a Welsh Guard at the end of WW2, my grandfather (his dad) was a Chief Engineer in the Merchant Navy and did a number of convoys to Archangel. My other grandfather worked the railways at Cardiff Dock during bombing raids. I learnt anti-fascism from people who risked their fucking lives fighting it.
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Postby Comfed » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:31 pm

Tevuros wrote:Nope, not at all. As someone who once had an account there, I can tell you that Createmino region is locked by it's owners, due to them not wanting members who aren't from the social media community they originated from. They aren't controlled by raiders. Wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't make it to the voting stage.

It’s being liberated so that it can be raided.

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Tevuros wrote:Nope, not at all. As someone who once had an account there, I can tell you that Createmino region is locked by it's owners, due to them not wanting members who aren't from the social media community they originated from. They aren't controlled by raiders. Wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't make it to the voting stage.

Besides, it's worth noting that this region, along with Creatopia, are both DEAD!

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:36 pm

Comfed wrote:
Tevuros wrote:Nope, not at all. As someone who once had an account there, I can tell you that Createmino region is locked by it's owners, due to them not wanting members who aren't from the social media community they originated from. They aren't controlled by raiders. Wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't make it to the voting stage.

It’s being liberated so that it can be raided.

And I think more than embassies should be required for that type of raid.
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Postby Ultimus Tritonis » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:37 pm

war minister of createmino region here and former delegate i am here to ask
what
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Postby Nepleslia » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:37 pm

Comfed wrote:
Tevuros wrote:Nope, not at all. As someone who once had an account there, I can tell you that Createmino region is locked by it's owners, due to them not wanting members who aren't from the social media community they originated from. They aren't controlled by raiders. Wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't make it to the voting stage.

It’s being liberated so that it can be raided.

That’s a pretty big yikes on the author’s behalf if your guess is accurate. Aren’t liberations meant to, y’know, liberate a region from raiders?

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