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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:33 am

Okay let’s look at one particular clause.
Recognizing that the Sinoco has a horrible oil industry and has high prices at the gas pumps even though its name is Sinoco.

Why would being named Sinoco prevent you from having a horrible oil industry etc.? Is this a gasp real world reference of some sort?

Please explain, I’m all ears.
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Postby Westinor » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:56 am

Believing that the reason it is unique is the fact that it has banned both civil rights and political freedom and it has painkillers in the water along with crystal meth(in the water) for workers of the nation in order to up production and also make it easier to control the Sinocoan population.

How is it unique? Thousands of nations share these qualities - nearly ten thousand on the count of banning civil rights, and nearly twenty thousand on the count of political rights. Painkillers in teh water along with crystal meth to control the population is also a somewhat popular choice for nations to choose, and I don't think its stretching to say that hundreds if not thousands of nations have this policy.

Recognizing that Sinoco loves to take control of underdeveloped nations through war and if you are suicidal you get the death penalty, but first get tortured by going through a corrupt legal system which if you look at it a certain way of maybe a suicidal person it can be very good.

The war and death penalty policies aren't really the same thing. Why are they grouped on the same clause? Similarly to the point above, the death penalty for suicide is also a common policy for extreme nations. This number is far larger for a corrupt legal system. How is this unique? Additionally, the attempt at a twist falls flat here because of the poor wording, which strays from the usual formal tone of resolutions and feels more like a snippet of a ramble.

Recognizing that the Sinocoan government practices compulsory organ harvesting which allows the population to never have to worry of not getting the needed organs and also helps the economy since the sinocoan government sells Sinocoan organs to other nations.

Even more common. It would not be stretching to say tens of thousands of nations do this.

Recognizing that many nations could say that this nation needs a condemnation and not a commendation, but do not understand that every nation is amazing and beautiful in their own way plus if you don't commend Sinoco the Sinocoan government may send a army of drug addicts to whichever nation did not support this commendation

So we should commend every nation, then? The threat also doesn't convince me to support this. Nor does it convince me that this should be a commendation. It takes an incredibly confusing leap of logic to think that this clause makes a good case for commendation.

Recognizing that the Sinocoan government has amazing(some may say disgusting) military parades where the government does human sacrifices on enemies to the Sinocoan leader who is known by the Sinocoan people as "Our dear great glorious leader who bades us in the holyness of drinking water".

The grammar in this clause is out of wack. What does "the government does human sacrifices on enemies to the sinocoan leader" mean? I can probably guess, but this is the kind of thing that is caught in drafting. How are these military parades unique? Your case for commendation is that this nation is somehow unique, but you have not pointed out a single trait that makes it so.

Recognizing that the Sinoco has a horrible oil industry and has high prices at the gas pumps even though its name is Sinoco.

See BBD's comment above. How is this commendable or unique?

Recognizing that Sinoco has a great mining industry cause it destroyed a slum and usas the residents as target practice and also has surprise checkpoints that can be made anywhere even in a Sinocoan mothers kitchen.

How does destroying a slum and "usasing" residents as target practice improve the mining industry? What are these surprise checkpoints? How is this unique? Am I going insane? What is the significance of these surprise checkpoints being made in a Sinocoan mother's chicken? Am I going insane? How is this unique? What part of the checkpoint is a surprise? How is destroying a slum commendable? How is any of this commendable if it's fueled by the torture and killing of residents? Is this your sixth "Recognizing" clause in a row? Am I going insane? How is this unique?

Recognizing that Sinoco is very unique and in its own way is a very beautiful nation and how the Sinocoan leader in its own way loves the Sinocoan people.

The Sinocoan simultaneously loves its people and uses them for target practice in conjunction with surprise mining checkpoints in your mother's kitchen to boost the mining industry.

God knows why am I spending so much time on a proposal that doesn't look like it'll even make it to quorum.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:04 pm

It's still good to critique proposals by newcomers to get them a sense of the expectations of the SC. For me, whenever I see a proposal on a nominee that isn't deserving of recognition, I just cut to the chase.
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Postby Illu-chi » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:07 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Illu-chi wrote:
Thank you, I'll remember that for future proposals, but that doesn't improve my work at all in the sense of getting sinoco commended.

And that loud noise folks was the sound of sarcasm passing right over Illu-chi’s head.


You don't support my resolution because the big delegates of course. You support a corrupt voting system which stamps out anything different and actively supports communism. A perfect example of this is Kazakhstan 3 losing his proposal because o the big delegates. This game has horrible ui,most people leave this game in a couple of weeks or in the first couple of days, the creator isn't even really a programmer and doesn't even support the game at all. You are obviously blind to all this though.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:09 pm

Illu-chi wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:And that loud noise folks was the sound of sarcasm passing right over Illu-chi’s head.


You don't support my resolution because the big delegates of course. You support a corrupt voting system which stamps out anything different and actively supports communism. A perfect example of this is Kazakhstan 3 losing his proposal because o the big delegates. This game has horrible ui,most people leave this game in a couple of weeks or in the first couple of days, the creator isn't even really a programmer and doesn't even support the game at all. You are obviously blind to all this though.

Are you seriously repeating the whole "WA corrupt" nonsense? Sounds exactly like the CCD in the 2020 SecGen elections when they said the WA is corrupt because Jocospor didn't get into the top five.
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Postby Illu-chi » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:13 pm

Westinor wrote:
Believing that the reason it is unique is the fact that it has banned both civil rights and political freedom and it has painkillers in the water along with crystal meth(in the water) for workers of the nation in order to up production and also make it easier to control the Sinocoan population.

How is it unique? Thousands of nations share these qualities - nearly ten thousand on the count of banning civil rights, and nearly twenty thousand on the count of political rights. Painkillers in teh water along with crystal meth to control the population is also a somewhat popular choice for nations to choose, and I don't think its stretching to say that hundreds if not thousands of nations have this policy.

Recognizing that Sinoco loves to take control of underdeveloped nations through war and if you are suicidal you get the death penalty, but first get tortured by going through a corrupt legal system which if you look at it a certain way of maybe a suicidal person it can be very good.

The war and death penalty policies aren't really the same thing. Why are they grouped on the same clause? Similarly to the point above, the death penalty for suicide is also a common policy for extreme nations. This number is far larger for a corrupt legal system. How is this unique? Additionally, the attempt at a twist falls flat here because of the poor wording, which strays from the usual formal tone of resolutions and feels more like a snippet of a ramble.

Recognizing that the Sinocoan government practices compulsory organ harvesting which allows the population to never have to worry of not getting the needed organs and also helps the economy since the sinocoan government sells Sinocoan organs to other nations.

Even more common. It would not be stretching to say tens of thousands of nations do this.

Recognizing that many nations could say that this nation needs a condemnation and not a commendation, but do not understand that every nation is amazing and beautiful in their own way plus if you don't commend Sinoco the Sinocoan government may send a army of drug addicts to whichever nation did not support this commendation

So we should commend every nation, then? The threat also doesn't convince me to support this. Nor does it convince me that this should be a commendation. It takes an incredibly confusing leap of logic to think that this clause makes a good case for commendation.

Recognizing that the Sinocoan government has amazing(some may say disgusting) military parades where the government does human sacrifices on enemies to the Sinocoan leader who is known by the Sinocoan people as "Our dear great glorious leader who bades us in the holyness of drinking water".

The grammar in this clause is out of wack. What does "the government does human sacrifices on enemies to the sinocoan leader" mean? I can probably guess, but this is the kind of thing that is caught in drafting. How are these military parades unique? Your case for commendation is that this nation is somehow unique, but you have not pointed out a single trait that makes it so.

Recognizing that the Sinoco has a horrible oil industry and has high prices at the gas pumps even though its name is Sinoco.

See BBD's comment above. How is this commendable or unique?

Recognizing that Sinoco has a great mining industry cause it destroyed a slum and usas the residents as target practice and also has surprise checkpoints that can be made anywhere even in a Sinocoan mothers kitchen.

How does destroying a slum and "usasing" residents as target practice improve the mining industry? What are these surprise checkpoints? How is this unique? Am I going insane? What is the significance of these surprise checkpoints being made in a Sinocoan mother's chicken? Am I going insane? How is this unique? What part of the checkpoint is a surprise? How is destroying a slum commendable? How is any of this commendable if it's fueled by the torture and killing of residents? Is this your sixth "Recognizing" clause in a row? Am I going insane? How is this unique?

Recognizing that Sinoco is very unique and in its own way is a very beautiful nation and how the Sinocoan leader in its own way loves the Sinocoan people.

The Sinocoan simultaneously loves its people and uses them for target practice in conjunction with surprise mining checkpoints in your mother's kitchen to boost the mining industry.

God knows why am I spending so much time on a proposal that doesn't look like it'll even make it to quorum.


Dang. After seeing this I now realize why I should do drafts. I now understand where everyone is coming from. This is garbage but I hope it still gets somewhere anyway or maybe I'll just delete the proposal.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:14 pm

Illu-chi wrote:
Westinor wrote:How is it unique? Thousands of nations share these qualities - nearly ten thousand on the count of banning civil rights, and nearly twenty thousand on the count of political rights. Painkillers in teh water along with crystal meth to control the population is also a somewhat popular choice for nations to choose, and I don't think its stretching to say that hundreds if not thousands of nations have this policy.


The war and death penalty policies aren't really the same thing. Why are they grouped on the same clause? Similarly to the point above, the death penalty for suicide is also a common policy for extreme nations. This number is far larger for a corrupt legal system. How is this unique? Additionally, the attempt at a twist falls flat here because of the poor wording, which strays from the usual formal tone of resolutions and feels more like a snippet of a ramble.


Even more common. It would not be stretching to say tens of thousands of nations do this.


So we should commend every nation, then? The threat also doesn't convince me to support this. Nor does it convince me that this should be a commendation. It takes an incredibly confusing leap of logic to think that this clause makes a good case for commendation.


The grammar in this clause is out of wack. What does "the government does human sacrifices on enemies to the sinocoan leader" mean? I can probably guess, but this is the kind of thing that is caught in drafting. How are these military parades unique? Your case for commendation is that this nation is somehow unique, but you have not pointed out a single trait that makes it so.


See BBD's comment above. How is this commendable or unique?


How does destroying a slum and "usasing" residents as target practice improve the mining industry? What are these surprise checkpoints? How is this unique? Am I going insane? What is the significance of these surprise checkpoints being made in a Sinocoan mother's chicken? Am I going insane? How is this unique? What part of the checkpoint is a surprise? How is destroying a slum commendable? How is any of this commendable if it's fueled by the torture and killing of residents? Is this your sixth "Recognizing" clause in a row? Am I going insane? How is this unique?


The Sinocoan simultaneously loves its people and uses them for target practice in conjunction with surprise mining checkpoints in your mother's kitchen to boost the mining industry.

God knows why am I spending so much time on a proposal that doesn't look like it'll even make it to quorum.


Dang. After seeing this I now realize why I should do drafts. I now understand where everyone is coming from. This is garbage but I hope it still gets somewhere anyway or maybe I'll just delete the proposal.

Scrap the proposal. The nominee isn't deserving of any SC recognition and you won't get anywhere with that. And stop with the whole "WA is corrupt" nonsense.
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:16 pm

Illu-chi wrote:You don't support my resolution because the big delegates of course.

No, I don’t support it because it’s crap.
Illu-chi wrote:You support a corrupt voting system which stamps out anything different and actively supports communism.

Really? So telling you that your proposal is rubbish makes me a Communist? Bit of a stretch that sunshine.
Illu-chi wrote:A perfect example of this is Kazakhstan 3 losing his proposal because o the big delegates.

No, it lost because it was garbage.
Illu-chi wrote:This game has horrible ui,most people leave this game in a couple of weeks or in the first couple of days, the creator isn't even really a programmer and doesn't even support the game at all. You are obviously blind to all this though.

Blind I may be, but I can smell a shitty proposal from a mile off.
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RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Astrobolt » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:31 pm

By the way, if you no longer wish to work on the proposal, changing [Withdrawn] to [Scrapped] would suffice.
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Postby Illu-chi » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:38 pm

Astrobolt wrote:By the way, if you no longer wish to work on the proposal, changing [Withdrawn] to [Scrapped] would suffice.

OK, I will.

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