Security Council Proposal to Condemn The Communist Bloc

[Outer Sparta]

Hey, current leader of TCB here, if you need help writing a condemn for us, feel free to ask for something that's...yknow....true.

I especially take issue with the description of our walls. They're beautiful walls. The best walls. Nobody makes beautiful walls like me. You can see how great our walls are by how many people come in and out.

We've done loads of evil deeds. We raided ISIS, and everyone knows raiding is bad...oh and we occupy some nazi regions, and occupations are really really bad....no wait that's a good thing.... erm....

I've been elected twice to leader which shows our democracy is a fix!!!!11!1 Oh, wait, you're claiming we dont do elections at all...this is awkward, we got criticised recently for doing too many elections.... erm..... We don't elect our Admin staff, very evil and condemnable, yes. Oh, and the Peoples Assembly isn't elected, how corrupt! If only the Peoples Assembly wasnt...yknow...all citizens.

Oh, the Card Factory we run, you should see how nasty we are to the lazy workers in them! Truly, the most oppressed peoples. So evil. Someone should liberate them.

Oh, we're really really really mean to Anarchists. No wait, half the government are LibLeft. Hm. Then we must be really mean to AuthComs!!! Aha gottem! Wait, what do you mean half the government are AuthCom. WE'RE PANLEFTISTS!?!?!?!

Damn, are we not condemnable. There goes next terms campaign. Heck.

Note- yes most of us in TCB are RL commies. You got us there.

I mean the author only seems to rant against communism with nothing else in their proposal besides "communism bad." If I wanted to rant against an ideology, then I would head over to NSG to do it and not in the SC forums.

[Feyrisshire]

can confirm.

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hahaha communism no food stalin eat all bread in holodomor never forget

Help!! I am trap imprison in Gay Horny Gulag by Stalin Soveit Union Gay Communist Anime Hentai Catgirl

Full support. I hope this passes quorum and passes to vote

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Oh dearie, dearie me. This is really a very poor attempt. No research done either on the nominee or on the standards required by the SC. Instead of listening to the well meant advice of the SC regulars, you have opted for the pig-headed “I’m right, the rest of you are wrong” approach.

Your pitiful proposal will sink without trace and a good thing too.

[Pidgeon]

It’s a garbage proposal. All you need to do is look at the data and TCB has better than average civil rights and average political freedoms.

[Aredita]

Thank you for your criticism. A few things to note:
1. It is not communist in name alone, I have spoken to members and viewed many pages of nations with horrible political mistreatment, imprisonment of citizens within their nations, etc.

2. The proposal is short because it says what it needs to.

3. I will not scrap it because it has been legalized, if you personally support communism regimes and oppression of political freedoms that is your flawed prerogative.

It's not about us supporting communism, it's just that this proposal will not pass.

Even if I agree with what you are trying to pass, I will vote against it.

[Kazakhstan 3]

Glad to see the tcb has responded to my warrants, I will continue to keep up the good fight.

[Sodoran Alesia]

Glad to see the tcb has responded to my warrants, I will continue to keep up the good fight.

Unless you're foolish enough to spend money on this for telegrams have fun seeing it die in queue! Your proposal has zero substance, is wholly inaccurate, and to add the cherry on top you are hilariously oblivious to all of this.

[Kazakhstan 3]

Just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean I am oblivious. I understand that my proposal is unique but despite these vapid claims from multiple attackers it is factually accurate. If you think you could do better, I urge you to try.

[Tsaivao]

If you think you could do better, I urge you to try.

Bruh did you literally just ask the guy to write a condemnation of his own region?

[Shamian]

TCB's Chief Justice here (Just for context).
I've held off on commenting on this so far - partly because it's absolute drivel - but mostly because I can't stop laughing at the absurdity of the fact that folk are bothering to respond to it.

So, a few of points to raise, for the benefit of the author's future endeavours - and for the benefit of those bothering to reply to this thread;

1/Kazakhstan 3 is clearly a puppet created at the first of this month https://forum.nationstates.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1453122; presumably it, the region it is part of, and the other cheese themed nations within said region which all came into being around the same time were all set up to troll The Communist Bloc. If so, the respondents to this thread are doing a grand job of inflating said troll's ego by doing exactly what they wanted.

2/The likelihood of this actually being permitted to pass by the community at large is low.
Even if folks who dislike left wing politics wanted to vote for it, they wont; were they to do so, and were it to pass, then it would likely cause folk to jump on the bandwagon.
And no-one wants to see this triggering an outbreak of spammy one-liner condemnations against all and sundry.
it would be like the way the fallout from the condemnation of Kaiserreich snowballed into the whole neo-liberations thing, all over again - just spammier.

3/Should anyone wish to target a nation or region with fraudulent claims, they should at least put some effort into their proposal.
For example, the previous attempt at condemning TCB accused us of being the "NS Thought Police", and actually went into some detail in building their case.
It didn't change the fact that it was a bag of lies - but at least it was interesting to read and obvious that the author had put some work into their attempt to earn the badge they were after.
This however, is an obvious and lazy attempt to troll TCB, and also an attempt to devalue the efforts of previous condemnation authors, who put much effort into their works.
Given that folk are reacting to it, one could argue that the troll is getting exactly the response they wanted.

TK.

[Sodoran Alesia]

Just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean I am oblivious.

Well considering you have thus far ignored all advice from the SC regulars and have refused to back up your claims yeah you are pretty oblivious to the trainwreck that is your proposal.

I understand that my proposal is unique but despite these vapid claims from multiple attackers it is factually accurate.

Unique =/= quality. The claims are not vapid, funny, when faced with the facts all you can do is go "No u" lol TCB is a thriving democracy (indeed we actually have a by-election for the legislative right now).

Among regions tagged "gargantuan" (region with 500+ nations) TCB is 3rd in civil rights (first if you discount puppet storage) so not sure where you are getting that we intentionally decrease civil rights. Walls sounds particularly ridiculous but when checked for political freedoms TCB is a respectable 18th (remove puppet storage regions and it's definitely within the top 10) so your claims are bullshit.

But of course, we'll never see you address this because dealing with facts and logic is below your caliber.

If you think you could do better, I urge you to try.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

.... I understand that my proposal is unique

Uniquely bad.

...If you think you could do better, I urge you to try.

Mate I could chew a load of ink and paper and puke a better proposal than the one you’ve submitted.

[Kingdom Of Englands]

Just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean I am oblivious. I understand that my proposal is unique but despite these vapid claims from multiple attackers it is factually accurate. If you think you could do better, I urge you to try.

That's it? That's your propsal! I may not be a SC regular, but this is just a crappy waste of SC time.

For the love of god, listen to the SC regulars and just get rid of it!

[Alcala-Cordel]

Part of me kinda wants to see this pass for the lulz, but only because it's wrong about almost everything. Besides, commendations/condemnations are both generally positive things that aren't given out to places someone actually views as being bad.

I think a commendation of TCB or NSLeft would be in order though, considering they're based and they have a long history of positive contributions to the community as a whole.

[Monkchester]

Among regions tagged "gargantuan" (region with 500+ nations) TCB is 3rd in civil rights (first if you discount puppet storage) so not sure where you are getting that we intentionally decrease civil rights. Walls sounds particularly ridiculous but when checked for political freedoms TCB is a respectable 18th (remove puppet storage regions and it's definitely within the top 10) so your claims are bullshit.

Civil liberties (not to be confused with the NS census category 'civil rights') also include the right to own property and of free participation in the economy. In 'economic freedom' and 'freedom from taxation' The Communist Bloc is ranked last. In 'authoritarianism' it comes first when excluding puppet storage and jump point regions.

I have started telegramming WA delegates to campaign for this resolution, which I hope will if not pass at least reach vote.

[Sorianora]

Esteemed delegate,
I will be short and to the point: I am looking for your assistance in approving Condemn The Communist Bloc. We have less than 48 hours to ensure that this proposal reaches the World Assembly for voting. I ask that you, as delegate of your region, click the button on the linked page to approve the proposal.
I have contacted you because your region is tagged Capitalist. I hope that you will put these principles into action by helping us get this proposal to vote and passed.
I received this telegram from monkchester . Smh, can believe someone would waste stamps on this.

[Kazakhstan 3]

Esteemed delegate,
I will be short and to the point: I am looking for your assistance in approving Condemn The Communist Bloc. We have less than 48 hours to ensure that this proposal reaches the World Assembly for voting. I ask that you, as delegate of your region, click the button on the linked page to approve the proposal.
I have contacted you because your region is tagged Capitalist. I hope that you will put these principles into action by helping us get this proposal to vote and passed.
I received this telegram from monkchester . Smh, can believe someone would waste stamps on this.

A true friend

[Tsaivao]

Condemning people for ideology is going to be a really annoying precedent if something like this can pass. The fact someone would spend real money on what essentially amounts to SC-shitposting is incredible...

[Sodoran Alesia]

Among regions tagged "gargantuan" (region with 500+ nations) TCB is 3rd in civil rights (first if you discount puppet storage) so not sure where you are getting that we intentionally decrease civil rights. Walls sounds particularly ridiculous but when checked for political freedoms TCB is a respectable 18th (remove puppet storage regions and it's definitely within the top 10) so your claims are bullshit.

Civil liberties (not to be confused with the NS census category 'civil rights') also include the right to own property and of free participation in the economy. In 'economic freedom' and 'freedom from taxation' The Communist Bloc is ranked last. In 'authoritarianism' it comes first when excluding puppet storage and jump point regions.

I have started telegramming WA delegates to campaign for this resolution, which I hope will if not pass at least reach vote.

Even so, are 2 stats really the benchmark to condemn a region? Like that's it, 2 stats lol Have you ever read any previous condemns of regions. All the ones that passed are longer than the one liner submitted, but hey, it's your money, not my problem if you want to waste it on this lol

A true friend

Good job with the zero effort one liner! Now you've got your buddies wasting money on it lol Regardless, this will die in queue. At least the last person to attempt to condemn us for our ideology was a little more creative, you on the other hand are the pinnacle of laziness and obstinance in refusing to listen to any suggestions.

[Kazakhstan 3]

Good job with the zero effort one liner! Now you've got your buddies wasting money on it lol Regardless, this will die in queue. At least the last person to attempt to condemn us for our ideology was a little more creative, you on the other hand are the pinnacle of laziness and obstinance in refusing to listen to any suggestions.

I will take constructive criticism when I see fit. If you feel that my resolution is not sufficient in this issue, feel free to right your own. If you disagree with me because you are a member of TCB begone. I wish not to speak with such mannical authoritarians when it can be avoided.

[Sodoran Alesia]

Good job with the zero effort one liner! Now you've got your buddies wasting money on it lol Regardless, this will die in queue. At least the last person to attempt to condemn us for our ideology was a little more creative, you on the other hand are the pinnacle of laziness and obstinance in refusing to listen to any suggestions.

I will take constructive criticism when I see fit.

So basically you will listen to no one and continue to try to shove this through queue as you're doing now? Nice lol

If you feel that my resolution is not sufficient in this issue, feel free to right your own.

Ah so you can't be bothered to fix your own shit proposal.

If you disagree with me because you are a member of TCB begone. I wish not to speak with such mannical authoritarians when it can be avoided.

Hehe, no such thing as thread ownership bud, it's a public forum, anyone is allowed to post, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I don't disagree with you solely because of my TCB membership, I disagree with you because your proposal is riddled with inaccuracies, extremely vague, and has zero effort put into it.

You're nothing but a pesky badgehunter who thinks he can dunk on the "commies" lol

[Outer Sparta]

Among regions tagged "gargantuan" (region with 500+ nations) TCB is 3rd in civil rights (first if you discount puppet storage) so not sure where you are getting that we intentionally decrease civil rights. Walls sounds particularly ridiculous but when checked for political freedoms TCB is a respectable 18th (remove puppet storage regions and it's definitely within the top 10) so your claims are bullshit.

Civil liberties (not to be confused with the NS census category 'civil rights') also include the right to own property and of free participation in the economy. In 'economic freedom' and 'freedom from taxation' The Communist Bloc is ranked last. In 'authoritarianism' it comes first when excluding puppet storage and jump point regions.

I have started telegramming WA delegates to campaign for this resolution, which I hope will if not pass at least reach vote.

How much money did you spend on your delegate approval campaign?

[Tinhampton]

Civil liberties (not to be confused with the NS census category 'civil rights') also include the right to own property and of free participation in the economy. In 'economic freedom' and 'freedom from taxation' The Communist Bloc is ranked last. In 'authoritarianism' it comes first when excluding puppet storage and jump point regions.

I have started telegramming WA delegates to campaign for this resolution, which I hope will if not pass at least reach vote.

How much money did you spend on your delegate approval campaign?

The telegram I received from Monkchester was a (properly-marked) manual tag:template campaign which read as follows:

Esteemed delegate,

I will be short and to the point: I am looking for your assistance in approving Condemn The Communist Bloc. We have less than 48 hours to ensure that this proposal reaches the World Assembly for voting. I ask that you, as delegate of your region, click the button on the linked page to approve the proposal.

I have contacted you because your region is tagged Anti-Communist. I hope that you will put these principles into action by helping us get this proposal to vote and passed.

[Outer Sparta]

How much money did you spend on your delegate approval campaign?

The telegram I received from Monkchester was a (properly-marked) manual tag:template campaign which read as follows:

Esteemed delegate,

I will be short and to the point: I am looking for your assistance in approving Condemn The Communist Bloc. We have less than 48 hours to ensure that this proposal reaches the World Assembly for voting. I ask that you, as delegate of your region, click the button on the linked page to approve the proposal.

I have contacted you because your region is tagged Anti-Communist. I hope that you will put these principles into action by helping us get this proposal to vote and passed.

Hmm tagging those that are only anti-communist surely limits the delegate pool. They didn't extend it to regions tagged conservative or capitalist or fascist?

[Monkchester]

The telegram I received from Monkchester was a (properly-marked) manual tag:template campaign which read as follows:

Esteemed delegate,

I will be short and to the point: I am looking for your assistance in approving Condemn The Communist Bloc. We have less than 48 hours to ensure that this proposal reaches the World Assembly for voting. I ask that you, as delegate of your region, click the button on the linked page to approve the proposal.

I have contacted you because your region is tagged Anti-Communist. I hope that you will put these principles into action by helping us get this proposal to vote and passed.

Hmm tagging those that are only anti-communist surely limits the delegate pool. They didn't extend it to regions tagged conservative or capitalist or fascist?

That's just the one for Anti-Communist regions. I went through Capitalist and Anti-Communist regions last night.

Civil liberties (not to be confused with the NS census category 'civil rights') also include the right to own property and of free participation in the economy. In 'economic freedom' and 'freedom from taxation' The Communist Bloc is ranked last. In 'authoritarianism' it comes first when excluding puppet storage and jump point regions.

I have started telegramming WA delegates to campaign for this resolution, which I hope will if not pass at least reach vote.

Even so, are 2 stats really the benchmark to condemn a region? Like that's it, 2 stats lol Have you ever read any previous condemns of regions. All the ones that passed are longer than the one liner submitted, but hey, it's your money, not my problem if you want to waste it on this lol

You'll find that I'm responding to your claims to be a beacon of freedom.