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Postby Team Lennox » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:25 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:What's with all the Wooloo region people coming here to comment? Also, opposed since I don't think Tin deserves a commendation. Probably the nominee will as usual push this resolution to a vote and even more so to get that shiny commend badge or something.

Its well written
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:29 pm

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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Posting in an SC thread usually requires some sort of input into the draft.

There are no puppets. Probably just as well you didn’t write it if you can’t get simple grammar correct.

Just stop being a grammar police

Why are you piling on BBD with yourself not even contributing anything to this thread remotely related to Tinhampton?
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Postby Sorianora » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:49 pm

Cmon guys this is a thread about the proposal not silly feuds!
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:00 pm

Here is some of the feedback I will present to you on your draft:

Admiring Tinhampton’s devotion to Auctor. Having faithfully served over 200 days as president and delegate of the region

Auctor is a rather small region, so you will have to elaborate on what makes Tin's devotion to Auctor significant, what she did to grow the region, what her accomplishments are there, etc. I prefer having more than just saying they spent a long time as delegate. A small grammar nitpick: The second sentence is a fragment, so I would recommend removing the period after Auctor and replace it with a comma for a sentence that flows better.

Grateful for Tinhampton’s work on a regional newspapers for various regions, adding up to 4 total issues

Which regional newspapers did Tin work on? Were they an editor? You could be more detailed on her achievements in that field as to make a more persuasive case in your commendation.

Proud Tinhampton has written the constitution of Auctor, enshrining the region with the rights to elections and excellent civil rights

Okay, so this seems like one of her accomplishments in Auctor, but maybe merge it with the first point in detailing their accomplishments in Auctor.

Appreciative of Tinhampton’s work in the General Assembly, where, they worked to enhance the safety of the world in 3 proposals, authored and co-authored, 1 of which still stands:

I. GA#484, a proposal to name and identity diseases more quickly, in an attempt to save lives and spread awareness of new epidemics

II. GA#491, which was co-authored by Tinhampton,a proposal to give rights to the average day worker and improve working conditions, making them more effective in their jobs

III. GA#500, in which Tinhampton co-authored, which set to repeal a proposal which failed to complete its goal of eliminating the death penalty

All three aforementioned resolutions have been repealed, which may undermine your argument. The manner of which 484 and 491 passed were also close votes and the repeals signify the flaws present in them. I think it is important to point out their contributions to the GA but I feel that with both being repealed, it does put a bit of a damper. As others have pointed out, 500 wasn't co-authored by Tin, but she did contribute to that repeal, which is not 500 but actually 533.


Recognising Tinhampton’s equally important job in the Security Council, where, Tinhampton authored 3 proposals, all still standing today:

I. SC#250, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation on the region Femdom Empire

II. SC#251, which commended a well-deserving nation, Alasdair I Frosticus SC#250, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation on the region Femdom Empire

You mentioned SC 250 twice. Remove the repeated sentence that comes after the SC 251 I underlined.

Applauding Tinhampton’s work on government situation #1115, “One in the Arm for @@LEADER@@“

Is Tin the author for Issue 1115? While on NSIndex I checked and it credited both her and Turbeaux. However, only Turbeaux has the issues author badge and not Tinhampton, which suggests that they authored it and not her. Must be a mistake in how the game recognizes multiple authors of the same issue, but double check on that.

As previously stated I don't believe the nominee deserves a commendation. However, that doesn't stop me from giving feedback on what you can do to make the draft better.
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Postby Sorianora » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:20 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Here is some of the feedback I will present to you on your draft:

Admiring Tinhampton’s devotion to Auctor. Having faithfully served over 200 days as president and delegate of the region

Auctor is a rather small region, so you will have to elaborate on what makes Tin's devotion to Auctor significant, what she did to grow the region, what her accomplishments are there, etc. I prefer having more than just saying they spent a long time as delegate. A small grammar nitpick: The second sentence is a fragment, so I would recommend removing the period after Auctor and replace it with a comma for a sentence that flows better.

Grateful for Tinhampton’s work on a regional newspapers for various regions, adding up to 4 total issues

Which regional newspapers did Tin work on? Were they an editor? You could be more detailed on her achievements in that field as to make a more persuasive case in your commendation.

Proud Tinhampton has written the constitution of Auctor, enshrining the region with the rights to elections and excellent civil rights

Okay, so this seems like one of her accomplishments in Auctor, but maybe merge it with the first point in detailing their accomplishments in Auctor.

Appreciative of Tinhampton’s work in the General Assembly, where, they worked to enhance the safety of the world in 3 proposals, authored and co-authored, 1 of which still stands:

I. GA#484, a proposal to name and identity diseases more quickly, in an attempt to save lives and spread awareness of new epidemics

II. GA#491, which was co-authored by Tinhampton,a proposal to give rights to the average day worker and improve working conditions, making them more effective in their jobs

III. GA#500, in which Tinhampton co-authored, which set to repeal a proposal which failed to complete its goal of eliminating the death penalty

All three aforementioned resolutions have been repealed, which may undermine your argument. The manner of which 484 and 491 passed were also close votes and the repeals signify the flaws present in them. I think it is important to point out their contributions to the GA but I feel that with both being repealed, it does put a bit of a damper. As others have pointed out, 500 wasn't co-authored by Tin, but she did contribute to that repeal, which is not 500 but actually 533.


Recognising Tinhampton’s equally important job in the Security Council, where, Tinhampton authored 3 proposals, all still standing today:

I. SC#250, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation on the region Femdom Empire

II. SC#251, which commended a well-deserving nation, Alasdair I Frosticus SC#250, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation on the region Femdom Empire

You mentioned SC 250 twice. Remove the repeated sentence that comes after the SC 251 I underlined.

Applauding Tinhampton’s work on government situation #1115, “One in the Arm for @@LEADER@@“

Is Tin the author for Issue 1115? While on NSIndex I checked and it credited both her and Turbeaux. However, only Turbeaux has the issues author badge and not Tinhampton, which suggests that they authored it and not her. Must be a mistake in how the game recognizes multiple authors of the same issue, but double check on that.

As previously stated I don't believe the nominee deserves a commendation. However, that doesn't stop me from giving feedback on what you can do to make the draft better.

Alright, great! Me and my co-author will take a look and begin to edit these in tomorrow.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:24 am

Sorianora wrote:The Security Council,
Noting Tinhampton was founded October 5th, 2016. From there Tinhampton was located in a number of regions including but not limited to Federation of Fictitious States, The North Pacific, Union of Liberal Nations, and The Rejected Realms until finally settling in Auctor

So they moved around a bit. Why is this Commendable? Otherwise this is just filler.
Sorianora wrote:Amazed Tinhampton has served as World Assembly Delegate for 11 different regions, a position many never attain even once

And what impact did they make on these regions they were WAD for? Also being WAD for a number of regions is hardly amazing or commendable.
Sorianora wrote:Admiring Tinhampton’s devotion to Auctor. Having faithfully served over 200 days as president and delegate of the region

200 days? Again not commendable because lots of nations have been WADs for longer periods than this.
Sorianora wrote:Grateful for Tinhampton’s work on a regional newspapers for various regions, adding up to 4 total issues

Again nothing that stands out here as being commendable. Plenty of nations have edited and written regional newspapers and for more than four issues.
Sorianora wrote:Proud Tinhampton has written the constitution of Auctor, enshrining the region with the rights to elections and excellent civil rights

Reads like you're applying an emotion to Tinhampton ("Proud Tinhampton...") which would be illegal as nations do not have emotions. And once more plenty of nations have worked on regional constitutions, so Tinhampton does not stand out from the crowd in this case.
Sorianora wrote:Appreciative of Tinhampton’s work in the General Assembly, where, they worked to enhance the safety of the world in 3 proposals, authored and co-authored, 1 of which still stands:

I. GA#484, a proposal to name and identity diseases more quickly, in an attempt to save lives and spread awareness of new epidemics

II. GA#491, which was co-authored by Tinhampton,a proposal to give rights to the average day worker and improve working conditions, making them more effective in their jobs

III. GA#500, in which Tinhampton co-authored, which set to repeal a proposal which failed to complete its goal of eliminating the death penalty

It's already been pointed out that you got the authorship of GA#500 wrong and the fact that the other proposals have been repealed.
Sorianora wrote:Recognising Tinhampton’s equally important job in the Security Council, where, Tinhampton authored 3 proposals, all still standing today:

I. SC#250, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation on the region Femdom Empire

II. SC#251, which commended a well-deserving nation, Alasdair I Frosticus SC#250, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation on the region Femdom Empire

III. SC#267, which repealed a now unnecessary liberation of The East Pacific, and once again gave control over the regions immigration to the World Assembly Delegate

SC#267 did absolutely nothing for border control in TEP. This is because GCRs cannot be passworded (except during the zombie outbreaks) so the Liberation and its repeal was purely symbolic.

Also Tinhampton has a terrible habit of making posts saying "Full support" in the SC forum knowing full well that the draft they are supporting is poor and/or illegal. They also quite like doing full rewrites on people's drafts and then getting into a snit when those rewrites are ignored. They took this to an extreme once where after being ignored they mounted an un-approval campaign. Hardly the behaviour of someone whom you are looking to commend for their SC work.

Sorianora wrote:Applauding Tinhampton’s work on government situation #1115, “One in the Arm for @@LEADER@@“

Don't just quote the issue code, try and get some detail into this.
Sorianora wrote:Hereby Commends Tinhampton

Co-authored by Plus Nova Imperii

Too much filler, too much stuff that is not really commendable. You've had a decent enough attempt at the research part, but you haven't come up with anything that will convince me that Tinhampton deserves a badge.

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Team Lennox wrote:Just stop being a grammar police

Why are you piling on BBD with yourself not even contributing anything to this thread remotely related to Tinhampton?

It's what they do. I've run into KOE/NAIS and Team Lennox before in an SC thread, as other nations. They didn't contribute anything positive then either.
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:14 am

Well, if Tinhampton had done Commendable things, we would be long overdue for Commend Tinhampton.
I can't even find a resolution that was repealed that gave Tinhampton the shiny silver-gold badge.
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Postby Indusse » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:22 am

Tinhampton is a nice person I agree, but what's so great on being Delegate so much regions which were mostly from raids,coups and takeovers. Maybe, you could wait a bit more and commend them instead doing it now.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:29 am

Grishahakkaverchynot wrote:Well, if Tinhampton had done Commendable things, we would be long overdue for Commend Tinhampton.
I can't even find a resolution that was repealed that gave Tinhampton the shiny silver-gold badge.

This is terrible logic. "If they're so commendable, why aren't they commended yet? That means they're not commendable." By that train of thought, no commendation will ever pass
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Postby Sorianora » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:43 am

Indusse wrote:Tinhampton is a nice person I agree, but what's so great on being Delegate so much regions which were mostly from raids,coups and takeovers. Maybe, you could wait a bit more and commend them instead doing it now.

Mm I suppose your right, I’ll keep editing this on my own for a couple months, or years.
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Postby Minskiev » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:48 am

'Admiring Tinhampton’s devotion to Auctor. Having faithfully served over 200 days as president and delegate of the region'

Why the period? Looks like a comma should be there instead, no?
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Postby Indusse » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:29 pm

Once again, Tinhampton has served Auctor for 200 days. Is it commendable? I have served my region for more than 500 days, why am i not commended yet? The Answer is easy: I haven't done anything commendable. What changes did Tinhampton bring in Auctor? Did they effect the total outlook of the region?

Personally, I have thought of bringing this proposal up before, I had asked many about this. But, everyone replied it isn't the right time and that's what I want to say again.It isn't the right time. The Authors may wait for some months working on the proposal so, that when the so called right time is attained they can bring this up to the floor. All the best to the Authors on bringing this up then.
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Postby World in Motion » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:31 pm

Indusse wrote:Once again, Tinhampton has served Auctor for 200 days. Is it commendable? I have served my region for more than 500 days, why am i not commended yet? The Answer is easy: I haven't done anything commendable. What changes did Tinhampton bring in Auctor? Did they effect the total outlook of the region?

Personally, I have thought of bringing this proposal up before, I had asked many about this. But, everyone replied it isn't the right time and that's what I want to say again.It isn't the right time. The Authors may wait for some months working on the proposal so, that when the so called right time is attained they can bring this up to the floor. All the best to the Authors on bringing this up then.

Lmao its on hold

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Postby Indusse » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:40 am

World in Motion wrote:
Indusse wrote:Once again, Tinhampton has served Auctor for 200 days. Is it commendable? I have served my region for more than 500 days, why am i not commended yet? The Answer is easy: I haven't done anything commendable. What changes did Tinhampton bring in Auctor? Did they effect the total outlook of the region?

Personally, I have thought of bringing this proposal up before, I had asked many about this. But, everyone replied it isn't the right time and that's what I want to say again.It isn't the right time. The Authors may wait for some months working on the proposal so, that when the so called right time is attained they can bring this up to the floor. All the best to the Authors on bringing this up then.

Lmao its on hold


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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:11 am

Indusse wrote:Once again, Tinhampton has served Auctor for 200 days. Is it commendable? I have served my region for more than 500 days, why am i not commended yet? The Answer is easy: I haven't done anything commendable. What changes did Tinhampton bring in Auctor? Did they effect the total outlook of the region?

Personally, I have thought of bringing this proposal up before, I had asked many about this. But, everyone replied it isn't the right time and that's what I want to say again.It isn't the right time. The Authors may wait for some months working on the proposal so, that when the so called right time is attained they can bring this up to the floor. All the best to the Authors on bringing this up then.

I don't think even a few months would change my opinion about Tinhampton being commendable. The draft lists some of their achievements, but I don't see them as commendable at this point.
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Postby Indusse » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:32 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Indusse wrote:Once again, Tinhampton has served Auctor for 200 days. Is it commendable? I have served my region for more than 500 days, why am i not commended yet? The Answer is easy: I haven't done anything commendable. What changes did Tinhampton bring in Auctor? Did they effect the total outlook of the region?

Personally, I have thought of bringing this proposal up before, I had asked many about this. But, everyone replied it isn't the right time and that's what I want to say again.It isn't the right time. The Authors may wait for some months working on the proposal so, that when the so called right time is attained they can bring this up to the floor. All the best to the Authors on bringing this up then.

I don't think even a few months would change my opinion about Tinhampton being commendable. The draft lists some of their achievements, but I don't see them as commendable at this point.


Yea, I get it. But what makes you say that Tinhampton won't be commendable at any near point of time?

The drafts on hold, I think we can talk on this.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:39 pm

Indusse wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I don't think even a few months would change my opinion about Tinhampton being commendable. The draft lists some of their achievements, but I don't see them as commendable at this point.


Yea, I get it. But what makes you say that Tinhampton won't be commendable at any near point of time?

The drafts on hold, I think we can talk on this.

Their accomplishments so far don't stand out to me as commendation. They definitely could reach that point in the future, but I don't see their current accomplishments as something to commend. It takes a bit for a nation to reach that commendable stage where they've accomplished a lot in NS, and it's definitely possible Tinhampton could reach that point.
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Postby Indusse » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:40 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Indusse wrote:
Yea, I get it. But what makes you say that Tinhampton won't be commendable at any near point of time?

The drafts on hold, I think we can talk on this.

Their accomplishments so far don't stand out to me as commendation. They definitely could reach that point in the future, but I don't see their current accomplishments as something to commend. It takes a bit for a nation to reach that commendable stage where they've accomplished a lot in NS, and it's definitely possible Tinhampton could reach that point.


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