Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:32 am
My mistake. My other points stand though.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
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Boston Castle wrote:Extolling Honeydewistania further for their efforts in resolving a prominent international issue-the problem of gender equity in access to sports-in “She’s A Keeper?”;
Tinhampton wrote:Firstly: What have Noahs Second Country, Wallenburg, Bormiar, Sylh Alanor, Refuge Isle, Free Las Pinas, Pluvie, Comfed, Bhang Bhang Duc, HumanSanity, and now myself - in that order - been trying to tell you about making your writing less bland and tasteless? Your two drafts are not identical, clearly, but they are uncannily flat.Boston Castle wrote:Extolling Honeydewistania further for their efforts in resolving a prominent international issue-the problem of gender equity in access to sports-in “She’s A Keeper?”;
Secondly, the correct title of the issue in question is "She's a Keeper" with no additional punctuation ;p
Thirdly, Condemn NSC was SC#319, not GA#319; and fourthly, there should probably be a space between "involveanimals."
Boston Castle wrote:Tinhampton wrote:Firstly: What have Noahs Second Country, Wallenburg, Bormiar, Sylh Alanor, Refuge Isle, Free Las Pinas, Pluvie, Comfed, Bhang Bhang Duc, HumanSanity, and now myself - in that order - been trying to tell you about making your writing less bland and tasteless? Your two drafts are not identical, clearly, but they are uncannily flat.
Secondly, the correct title of the issue in question is "She's a Keeper" with no additional punctuation ;p
Thirdly, Condemn NSC was SC#319, not GA#319; and fourthly, there should probably be a space between "involveanimals."
1. I don't appreciate your tone at all. I have worked on this draft, but at some point, there just will be a tone that is employed that this chamber will have to deal with-hence why I have strengthened the first parts of the clauses. If someone wanted to make a competing version of the same one, that's perfectly alright with me, but I have tried to present the facts as we know them in a way which shows he is commendable. Put nicely, I should only hope that _tone_ isn't the thing which gets you all against this. That would be petty, even for the WA.
Varanius wrote:Wallenburg wrote:Who knew that the WA had no business commending people for WA accomplishments.
Oh I’m entirely sure this will get done eventually, but I’m against it. The WA can run around commending people for participating in their little oligarchic club all they’d like, and I’m sure they will, but I’m against it.
Boston Castle wrote:1. I don't appreciate your tone at all. I have worked on this draft, but at some point, there just will be a tone that is employed that this chamber will have to deal with
Refuge Isle wrote:Boston Castle wrote:1. I don't appreciate your tone at all. I have worked on this draft, but at some point, there just will be a tone that is employed that this chamber will have to deal with
Evidence by this and other forum threads of yours, you don't seem keen to listen to criticism you get in any drafting/debate thread, such that I'm not really sure why you're here.
It's possible to push and push and push proposals that are bad. If you're lucky and have enough political spin, you can even pass those proposals - briefly anyway. They may last a few weeks to a month before getting burned down, but it will happen sooner or later if the quality is poor or inaccurate. That is the point your target or your legislative subject will be worse off because of your interference. A far better strategy is to work with people to make the highest quality resolution possible, so that when it hits the floor it's both uncontroversial and remembered fondly. I implore you to begin listening to the WAA staff and resolution authors that so frequently appear in this thread, for they study this material intensely.
Your assertion that either problems are not problems or that they are unsolvable only speaks to your inexperience rather than the rigidity of the format. The SC is nothing more than a platform for ideas about people and places and has some of the laxest rules of any area on NationStates. Anyone can come up with a proposal that's legal with little to no effort, anyone can regurgitate a dispassionate list of facts, but the most celebrated authors of the SC are the ones who can use this medium as a tool to make me care about someone I've never met or make me care about a place I've never been to. The format does not hold you back, your creativity does.
Boston Castle wrote:Now, to address the other elephant-in-the-room issue. The tone of the text. I genuinely do not know how to do what you all are asking me to do. For a variety of reasons. 1) Honeydew’s proposals, at least the SC ones mentioned here are relatively (though not entirely) similar.
Jakker wrote:Boston Castle wrote:Now, to address the other elephant-in-the-room issue. The tone of the text. I genuinely do not know how to do what you all are asking me to do. For a variety of reasons. 1) Honeydew’s proposals, at least the SC ones mentioned here are relatively (though not entirely) similar.
I think if people are critical of the writing/approach of a commendation proposal that mentions SC writing and you are articulating that you essentially copied the nominee's style, you are making the case that their SC writing is not really commendable.
Boston Castle wrote:Perhaps I'd feel more comfortable not addressing it if there was precedent for commending a player/nation twice. That way someone could focus more on it in the future. It certainly would maybe help because I then can better reflect some of the snark inherent in his GA work.
[To be more specific, in the way he occasionally critiques proposals. This was the reason I initially wanted to include the repeal of GAR #522 in his Commend because I think it best reflected his personality.]
Honeydewistania wrote:RIP