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(DRAFT) Condemn Cretox State

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(DRAFT) Condemn Cretox State

Postby Nopengie » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:25 am

The WA,

Recognising Cretox State's work in the WA

Cognizant of a successful track record of passed resolutions

Worrying that a lot of these resolutions are ill reasoned, random repeals, such as repeal rights of the employed.

Fearing that this could become a commonplace practice to undermine one's enemies

Knowing that some of these repeals had little in the way of honest reasoning

Hereby condemns Cretox State
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Thanks for reading and please stay kind

Postby Nopengie » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:28 am

Just saying thanks for reading this draft and please don't bash me in the comments. I haven't written many proposals and am kinda new at this so if you recommend a change, please be kind about it and don't be mad

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Postby Wellington Bingbong » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:33 am

Nopengie wrote:The WA,

Recognising Cretox State's work in the WA

Cognizant of a successful track record of passed resolutions

Worrying that a lot of these resolutions are ill reasoned, random repeals

Fearing that this could become a commonplace practice to undermine one's enemies

Knowing that some of these repeals had little in the way of honest reasoning

Hereby condemns Cretox State


The delegate for The Oppressed Peoples Of Wellington Bingbong certainly agrees with the sentiment behind this proposal, but has nothing of worth to add to this draft, and awaits advice from other seasoned statespeople.

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Postby Comfed » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:21 am

Not nearly enough content in this draft.

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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:23 am

I'm no WA draft master or anything, but yeah you certainly need to add more. Maybe, instead of just brushing over said repeals, give a few examples and show why they're bad. You also may need to fix the formatting but that is not something I'm all too sure about. Just make sure to add more details and wait for other suggestions in the meantime.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:23 am

Nopengie wrote:Worrying that a lot of these resolutions are ill reasoned, random repeals

List these 'ill reasoned, random repeals'.
Fearing that this could become a commonplace practice to undermine one's enemies

How so? Elaborate?
Knowing that some of these repeals had little in the way of honest reasoning

Again, elaborate. Explain this to us.
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Postby Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:09 am

Cretox's tyrrany over this body must end. We stand in full support.
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Postby Cretox State » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:58 am

Nopengie wrote:Worrying that a lot of these resolutions are ill reasoned, random repeals, such as repeal rights of the employed.

By "a lot of," you mean 1. By "ill reasoned" and "random," you mean "he passed a resolution I don't like." "He passed a resolution I don't like" is pretty lousy grounds for a condemnation.

The trick with writing one of these is to do actual research. My passed resolutions are in my forum sig. You can look into my work in TNP. I won't necessarily support this either way, but hey, if you come up with an actually good draft that makes a convincing argument, who am I to judge?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:34 pm

This is too sincere. No support.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:00 pm

No research done on the nominee, your draft has nowhere near enough detail to support a Condemnation. Suggest you read other Condemnations to get an idea of how far away this one is from being up to scratch.

But thank you for drafting here first.
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Postby Modessia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:27 pm

While I hate to point it out and be pedantic, could you perhaps use a bit more formal language in this? Also, can you prove any of your accusations, such as "Knowing that some of these repeals had little in the way of honest reasoning"?
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Postby Cretox State » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:35 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:No research done on the nominee, your draft has nowhere near enough detail to support a Condemnation. Suggest you read other Condemnations to get an idea of how far away this one is from being up to scratch.

But thank you for drafting here first.

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Postby Nopengie » Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:39 am

Cretox State wrote:
Nopengie wrote:Worrying that a lot of these resolutions are ill reasoned, random repeals, such as repeal rights of the employed.

By "a lot of," you mean 1. By "ill reasoned" and "random," you mean "he passed a resolution I don't like." "He passed a resolution I don't like" is pretty lousy grounds for a condemnation.

The trick with writing one of these is to do actual research. My passed resolutions are in my forum sig. You can look into my work in TNP. I won't necessarily support this either way, but hey, if you come up with an actually good draft that makes a convincing argument, who am I to judge?

Ill reasoned and random means ill reasoned and random. The fact that they are ill reasoned and random is WHY i dont like em

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Postby Daarwyrth » Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:50 am

Nopengie wrote:
Cretox State wrote:By "a lot of," you mean 1. By "ill reasoned" and "random," you mean "he passed a resolution I don't like." "He passed a resolution I don't like" is pretty lousy grounds for a condemnation.

The trick with writing one of these is to do actual research. My passed resolutions are in my forum sig. You can look into my work in TNP. I won't necessarily support this either way, but hey, if you come up with an actually good draft that makes a convincing argument, who am I to judge?

Ill reasoned and random means ill reasoned and random. The fact that they are ill reasoned and random is WHY i dont like em


It's funny that you should use these terms, because at the moment I would use those same descriptions for this resolution draft. At the moment it really comes across as "boohoo, they wrote a resolution I didn't like which was passed so I will Condemn them". In other words, because of its lack of substance it comes across as whiny, and I imagine that's not the tone you wanted to embody in this draft.

If you really want to go through with this, you need to do serious research about your target, and form up a proper, reasonable argument around it that has actual substance. Because at the moment, the current draft lacks all of those things and rather appears to be a petty stab at someone who did something that made you feel bad.
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Postby Bormiar » Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:21 am

Not a mod, but if the people above are correct and this is your response to a certain resolution Cretox wrote and you didn't like (which is?), then this is probably a clear-cut tit for tat proposal; i.e. illegal.

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Postby Cretox State » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:59 am

Nopengie wrote:
Cretox State wrote:By "a lot of," you mean 1. By "ill reasoned" and "random," you mean "he passed a resolution I don't like." "He passed a resolution I don't like" is pretty lousy grounds for a condemnation.

The trick with writing one of these is to do actual research. My passed resolutions are in my forum sig. You can look into my work in TNP. I won't necessarily support this either way, but hey, if you come up with an actually good draft that makes a convincing argument, who am I to judge?

Ill reasoned and random means ill reasoned and random. The fact that they are ill reasoned and random is WHY i dont like em

You just admitted that you're trying to condemn me because I wrote something you don't like. Which is...?

Edit: "Worrying that a lot of these resolutions are ill reasoned, random repeals, such as repeal rights of the employed."

By "a lot of," you mean "1."
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm

A condemnation should describe in detail the accomplishments of the nominee, and why they are so significant as to merit a condemnation. Currently this reads as a vague dislike of the nominee's work. I would urge more detail, at least to the point of naming and describing each resolution of note. I'd also recommend research on their activities outside of the WA, so as to round out the breadth of the condemnation.
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Postby Nopengie » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:43 am

I will edit this soon, but I am busy with another draft

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:53 am

Nopengie wrote:I will edit this soon, but I am busy with another draft

Edit? Don’t you mean a top to bottom rewrite?
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Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..


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