[SUBMITTED] Repeal "Liberate CCD"

[American Pere Housh]

I support this proposal not because I'm once again a CCD member but because I believe SCR #263 is no longer needed. I believe the CCD has come a long way in all IRL fascists from the region. Even I wasn't apart of the CCD, I would vote yes when it eventually came to a vote.

[The Unified Missourtama States]

I support this proposal not because I'm once again a CCD member but because I believe SCR #263 is no longer needed. I believe the CCD has come a long way in all IRL fascists from the region. Even I wasn't apart of the CCD, I would vote yes when it eventually came to a vote.

I might've believed you if you didn't have the three concepts of facism in your signature:

#ThinBlueLine
#BlueLivesMatter

"Fascist Style": a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization.

If you support the abolishment or defunding of our men and women in blue, shame on you.

"Fascist Goals": transform social relations within a modern, self-determined and co-existing culture.

A vote for Trump is a vote for freedom.

"Facist Style": charismatic authoritarian leadership.

A vote for Biden is a vote for socialism.

"Fascist Negations": anti-liberalism, anti-socialism, anti-communism.

[Jocospor]

I want to reassure everyone that the helpful feedback which has been submitted on this thread is under close consideration and a new draft will appear soon.

Again, I understand why people hold reservations, but I hope I have made out CCD's genuine intentions with this. I promise you, we're meaning well this time. I want to thank those of the NSGP community who've contacted my privately to offer their support for the resolution.

This will be submitted on or after 25th November, as planned. If I am unable to submit it, Shrew has my permission to.

[WayNeacTia]

Again, I understand why people hold reservations, but I hope I have made out CCD's genuine intentions with this. I promise you, we're meaning well this time. I want to thank those of the NSGP community who've contacted my privately to offer their support for the resolution.

You can drop the pretense at any time. This whole endeavour is nothing more than ego stroking on your part, with the side benefit of gaining an authorship badge. No one is buying it, so you may as well drop it and let someone, who has zero affiliation with the CCD write it. Either that, or keep the liberation. Your choice.

[Jocospor]

Again, I understand why people hold reservations, but I hope I have made out CCD's genuine intentions with this. I promise you, we're meaning well this time. I want to thank those of the NSGP community who've contacted my privately to offer their support for the resolution.

You can drop the pretense at any time. This whole endeavour is nothing more than ego stroking on your part, with the side benefit of gaining an authorship badge. No one is buying it, so you may as well drop it and let someone, who has zero affiliation with the CCD write it. Either that, or keep the liberation. Your choice.

Sigh. No, Wayneactica, that's not how things are at all.

I would say, Kaboomlandia, you are more than welcome to submit your proposal. CCD will definitely support it.

EDIT: I was not aware of the new draft by Kaboomlandia, which has just been submitted, when I gave this endorsement. The last four lines of this new version are extremely misleading. CCD will be holding its support for the resolution until further notice.

Herein lies the hypocrisy: CCD has been criticised for in the past using this resolution for glorification purposes. CCD critics are now currently doing exactly the same thing, and yet they receive no rebuke. It's these double-standards that have always led CCD to raise concerns over the state of the World Assembly.

I would ask all delegates to be as objective as possible throughout this process.

I must also support CCD. We as a region have worked on this for months; I must represent my region. I will be submitting a [redrafted; not there yet sorry] resolution to the Security Council on 25/11/20. If you are looking for a display of integrity, this is it.

[Honeydewitopia]

If you support CCD, you'll drop this, because getting this to vote and getting it defeated will poison the well for another year or so

[Jocospor]

Kaboomlandia's similar repeal has been defeated.

While I said this would be posted on 25th Nov, I still haven't had a chance to polish up a new draft, and need to go away at short notice for a week. Might have to be closer towards the end of November. Shrew has the fort in my absence.

[WayNeacTia]

Kaboomlandia's similar repeal has been defeated.

Really? It was defeated? So votes aren't held now?

[Honeydewistania]

Kaboomlandia's similar repeal has been defeated.

While I said this would be posted on 25th Nov, I still haven't had a chance to polish up a new draft, and need to go away at short notice for a week. Might have to be closer towards the end of November. Shrew has the fort in my absence.

Just stop, okay. Stop. You just threw away the closest you’ll get to getting it repealed for the entirety of this resolution’s existence. It’s been made clear that any repeal will not come from CCD. Even Kaboom, who is respected, was quorum raided. What do you think will happen to you guys? Just leave it be

[Kaboomlandia]

Don't do this. Save your dignity, time and money. I have WA connections, authorship experience and no connection to the region, which are three things the leaders of CCD don't have, and my resolution didn't get to vote. TNP also told me that their approval raid against my proposal that knocked it out of queue was just business and nothing to do with me personally, and somehow I can't really see that being the case in this instance.

[Refuge Isle]

Kaboomlandia's similar repeal has been defeated.

While I said this would be posted on 25th Nov, I still haven't had a chance to polish up a new draft, and need to go away at short notice for a week. Might have to be closer towards the end of November. Shrew has the fort in my absence.

Since you sank a repeal from a neutral third party, as far as I can tall, just to get a proposal up that you wrote and has your name in it. By all means, push this to vote. Winter's coming and we're going to need something for the fire place. Votes rely on political support, not on alienation. Recent political antics from CCD regarding repealing SC#263 have only done the latter.

No support from me and I would be all too happy to write a blistering IFV for the the East.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Since you sank a repeal from a neutral third party, as far as I can tall, just to get a proposal up that you wrote and has your name in it. By all means, push this to vote. Winter's coming and we're going to need something for the fire place. Votes rely on political support, not on alienation. Recent political antics from CCD regarding repealing SC#263 have only done the latter.

To be fair, had we known TNP would quorum raid it out of queue, we wouldn't have needed to run those counter-campaign telegrams.

Your take is, as usual, also objectively false - Jocospor and I explained why we could not support that proposal here: viewtopic.php?p=37960776#p37960776

Don't do this. Save your dignity, time and money. I have WA connections, authorship experience and no connection to the region, which are three things the leaders of CCD don't have, and my resolution didn't get to vote. TNP also told me that their approval raid against my proposal that knocked it out of queue was just business and nothing to do with me personally, and somehow I can't really see that being the case in this instance.

Again, TNP's quorum raid was a pretty weak attempt, they knocked off a total of 4 approvals at minor. Our counter-campaign removed approximately 20 approvals and it was already sitting at exactly quorum - 63 approvals - before the minor update.

I have looked over the logistics of getting this proposal to vote, and am fairly confident that regardless of any interference from TNP, we're going to be able to do so.

[Morover]

I have looked over the logistics of getting this proposal to vote, and am fairly confident that regardless of any interference from TNP, we're going to be able to do so.

Then do it.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

I have looked over the logistics of getting this proposal to vote, and am fairly confident that regardless of any interference from TNP, we're going to be able to do so.

Then do it.

We will, there's no rush

As Jocospor said above, he's away at the moment, so this draft will be updated and likely submitted before the end of November.

[WayNeacTia]

Then do it.

We will, there's no rush

As Jocospor said above, he's away at the moment, so this draft will be updated and likely submitted before the end of November.

You're right. Let the taste of failure ferment. That way all of us can enjoy it's sweet taste.

[Jocospor]

Hello hello, sorry about the delay, I became surprisingly busy and my leave of absence incurred a few additional days of work from home. New draft has been filed, see OP. Thank you to all who provided valuable feedback. I had a number of people contact me privately, which was very humbling.

[Comfed]

Interpreting this repeal resolution as not just an apology,

Really? It doesn’t sound like one.

[Miss Bad Life Choices]

Resolved, however, that the Confederation has reformed at great lengths to combat fascism and indeed all heinous ideologies;

How has the CCD actually combatted fascism? There's a difference in cleaning out your own region and actually combatting fascism such as through doing anti-fash operations, and cleaning out your own region from fascism is something that should be expected of any decent region. I read this post and I don't think this merits a line of "combatting fascism" as all you're doing is what is expected of regions. Would re-word, unless CCD has done things like anti-fash bashes in which case add that in.

Either way I don't intend to support this and have a hope that NPA will quorum raid this too. Just in the rare case this passes, would rather not have the CCD pat themselves on the back for combatting fascism when they were doing what any decent region does~

[Imperium Anglorum]

Lmao.

[Jocospor]

Resolved, however, that the Confederation has reformed at great lengths to combat fascism and indeed all heinous ideologies;

How has the CCD actually combatted fascism?

O, let the hyposcrisy shine forth.

Initial feedback suggested the resolution was too verbose and "congratulatory", so I cut it back. And now? I'm being criticised for a lack of specificity. I would gladly find a sweetspot, were one to be found. (One can't be found, because it doesn't exist. There's no appeasing some people.)

But to try and answer the question, on top of general denunciation, we have in fact engaged in anti-fascist operations, the likes of which are too particular to explicitly detail here. And if that's the case, of course they're not appropriate to be listing in a World Assembly resolution. If you want clarifcation, consult your NSGP friends. Some of them are privy to what we've done. But, on the whole, "combatting" does not necessarily need be "aggressively offensive".

Something else we've started doing is notifying the TRR foreign office when we banject an OOC fascist player from CCD. I doubt every other "decent region" does that. Again, if you seek clarification on that score, contact Frat.

Interpreting this repeal resolution as not just an apology,

Really? It doesn’t sound like one.

I've phrased it as best I can. If you can't infer an apology, either your interpretation is off or I can't write. If you want to suggest changes, please feel free to.

Lmao.

If there's no more useful feedback, Shrew and I will start looking for an accomodating time to submit this.