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[DRAFT] Condemn Grishahakkaverchynot

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[DRAFT] Condemn Grishahakkaverchynot

Postby International Tranzorian Program » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:17 pm

Like many, this is my first Condemnation. Knowing that this draft will most likely not be accepted at first, I would appreciate feedback and even criticism from you guys.
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Considering that although Grishahakkaverchynot (Referring to as Grish) has not often been involved in warfare, the nation has and interesting case on how it was recognised as a invader nation.

Recollecting that Grish was founded in the time of early May, 2020, a time where invasions by raider nations were easy to fend off and invader regions were only sending small nations. The nation joined the World Assembly and became a rogue raider nation. In August, Grish publicly stated they needed a Co-raider to raid the region United Territories of North America, knowing the vulnerability that their Founder wasn't there at the time. The nation of Kolvas transmitted this information of a raid to the UTNA, who's leader Romanov Alaska, came back to Region. Grish leaders realised this and cancelled the raid.

Expanding that Grish went on to raid (Or at least try to) these regions.
The now-destroyed region of The Oceania, which was successfully raided,
The dead region of Hazebrouck, which had it's raid cancelled,
and so on.

Knowing that Grish followed the path of many raids from large military organizations, including The Black Hawks. Grish would tag along late in the raids after the raids became known, and then leave them when it was thought that a Liberation for the Region would come.

Finalising that Grish founded the Grishahakkaverchynot League, which is a neutral region and very peaceful. However, Grish is still participating in late raids.

Hereby condemns Grishahakkaverchynot
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:39 pm

I'm not very experienced in WA stuff, but I think I can at least see that if this is a serious draft it is very lacking. It's literally just Grish raiding or attempting to? It doesn't seem they have any notable accomplishments, indeed, they only joined in May 2020. Have they done anything of note? Like going by this you could condemn nearly anyone lol
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Postby International Tranzorian Program » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:45 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:I'm not very experienced in WA stuff, but I think I can at least see that if this is a serious draft it is very lacking. It's literally just Grish raiding or attempting to? It doesn't seem they have any notable accomplishments, indeed, they only joined in May 2020. Have they done anything of note? Like going by this you could condemn nearly anyone lol

You are right. Writing aside, do you think that he should be condemned though? Even if I wrote better?

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:48 pm

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Hereby condoms Grishahakkaverchynot

Please don't.
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Postby International Tranzorian Program » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:49 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
International Tranzorian Program wrote:Hereby condoms Grishahakkaverchynot

Please don't.

STUPID AUTOCORRECT! MAKING A FOOL OF ME IN THE WA!
Sorry.

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Postby FNU » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:51 pm

Could use some more detail. Otherwise I would say the name is enough for the charge.
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Postby Praeceps » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:54 pm

I don't have time at the moment to break down the resolution clause by clause but I agree with others in that it is insufficient. Some quick comments though. Rogue not rouge. You have some inconsistent punctuation. You have two thes in front of United Terrirtories.

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International Tranzorian Program wrote:Hereby condoms Grishahakkaverchynot

Please don't.

The Security Council supports safe sex.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:57 pm

International Tranzorian Program wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Please don't.

STUPID AUTOCORRECT! MAKING A FOOL OF ME IN THE WA!
Sorry.

I wouldn’t necessarily blame the autocorrect. Ouch, that was harsh. :)

Okay a nation that’s been around for a few months and tried to raid is definitely not Condemnable. C&Cs are normally awarded to nations or regions that have a long history of accomplishments either playing the good guy or the villain. Your nominee definitely does not fall into that latter category.

nation joined the World Assembly and became a rouge raider nation. In August, Grish publicly stated they needed a Co-raider to raid the the region

I think you mean rogue.

Edit: ninja’d by Praeceps.
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Postby International Tranzorian Program » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:00 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
International Tranzorian Program wrote:STUPID AUTOCORRECT! MAKING A FOOL OF ME IN THE WA!
Sorry.

I wouldn’t necessarily blame the autocorrect. Ouch, that was harsh. :)

Okay a nation that’s been around for a few months and tried to raid is definitely not Condemnable. C&Cs are normally awarded to nations or regions that have a long history of accomplishments either playing the good guy or the villain. Your nominee definitely does not fall into that latter category.

nation joined the World Assembly and became a rouge raider nation. In August, Grish publicly stated they needed a Co-raider to raid the the region

I think you mean rogue.

Well, now I wait for more evidence. Thanks for the suggestions.

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Postby Barlyy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:02 pm

Ah, Grishahakkaverchynot. He had embassies with us in our old region. He probably isn't worth the condemnation though. (and I'm not in the WA, atleast on this account)

But, one thing I'll add is, the Grishahakkaverchnot League isn't very "peaceful". That's one part where the draft is wrong.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:03 pm

Praeceps wrote:
International Tranzorian Program wrote:Hereby condoms Grishahakkaverchynot
The New California Republic wrote:Please don't.

The Security Council supports safe sex.

There's a difference between doing it themselves and asking the WA to do it.
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Postby International Tranzorian Program » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:04 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Praeceps wrote:The Security Council supports safe sex.

There's a difference between doing it themselves and asking the WA to do it.

Why did ya put that in my mind
Barlyy wrote:Ah, Grishahakkaverchynot. He had embassies with us in our old region. He probably isn't worth the condemnation though. (and I'm not in the WA, atleast on this account)
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Thanks.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:37 pm

I'm not sure if this one merits enough to be a condemnation.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:49 pm

Full support, if it keeps the bloke away from Auctor! :P
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:59 am

A bit more detailed feedback.

International Tranzorian Program wrote:The Security Council,

Considering that although Grishahakkaverchynot (Referring to as Grish) has not often been involved in warfare, the nation has and interesting case on how it was recognised as a invader nation.

Poorly written.

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Recollecting that Grish was founded in the time of early May, 2020, a time where invasions by raider nations were easy to fend off and invader regions were only sending small nations. The nation joined the World Assembly and became a rogue raider nation. In August, Grish publicly stated they needed a Co-raider to raid the region United Territories of North America, knowing the vulnerability that their Founder wasn't there at the time. The nation of Kolvas transmitted this information of a raid to the UTNA, who's leader Romanov Alaska, came back to Region. Grish leaders realised this and cancelled the raid.

Half of this clause is filler, the rest is describing the mechanics of a failed raid attempt. Nothing condemnable here.

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Expanding that Grish went on to raid (Or at least try to) these regions.
The now-destroyed region of The Oceania, which was successfully raided,
The dead region of Hazebrouck, which had it's raid cancelled,
and so on.

Another failed raid? Poorly written clause as well.

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Knowing that Grish followed the path of many raids from large military organizations, including The Black Hawks. Grish would tag along late in the raids after the raids became known, and then leave them when it was thought that a Liberation for the Region would come.

We don’t Condemn nations for being a piler.

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Finalising that Grish founded the Grishahakkaverchynot League, which is a neutral region and very peaceful. However, Grish is still participating in late raids.

Hereby condemns Grishahakkaverchynot

Filler.

You managed to draft a legal proposal and thank you for drafting on the forums first. However, the nominee couldn’t raid their way out of a paper bag and is definitely not Condemnable material.
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Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:20 am

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Finalising that Grish founded the Grishahakkaverchynot League, which is a neutral region and very peaceful. However, Grish is still participating in late raids.

Hereby condemns Grishahakkaverchynot

We usually don't condemn nations for being peaceful.

Overall, Grishahakkaverchynot is a new nation, less than half a year, no raiding history, no authoring history, no major innovations in any niche, they are not currently suit for recognition.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:23 am

The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
International Tranzorian Program wrote:Finalising that Grish founded the Grishahakkaverchynot League, which is a neutral region and very peaceful. However, Grish is still participating in late raids.

Hereby condemns Grishahakkaverchynot

We usually don't condemn nations for being peaceful.

Overall, Grishahakkaverchynot is a new nation, less than half a year, no raiding history, no authoring history, no major innovations in any niche, they are not currently suit for recognition.

Hence why the current draft is mostly filler.
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Postby The Emirate of The Emirate » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:26 am

its just raiding, raiding is legal, as it said in resolution 98 or something, "condemn the black hawks"
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:22 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
International Tranzorian Program wrote:Hereby condoms Grishahakkaverchynot

Please don't.

Conjures up an interesting image, now doesn't it?
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:31 am

The Emirate of The Emirate wrote:its just raiding, raiding is legal, as it said in resolution 98 or something, "condemn the black hawks"

He's right, I even stopped raiding.
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:55 am

International Tranzorian Program wrote:Like many, this is my first Condemnation. Knowing that this draft will most likely not be accepted at first, I would appreciate feedback and even criticism from you guys.
The Security Council,

Considering that although Grishahakkaverchynot (Referring to as Grish) has not often been involved in warfare, the nation has and interesting case on how it was recognised as a invader nation.

Recollecting that Grish was founded in the time of early May, 2020, a time where invasions by raider nations were easy to fend off and invader regions were only sending small nations. The nation joined the World Assembly and became a rogue raider nation. In August, Grish publicly stated they needed a Co-raider to raid the region United Territories of North America, knowing the vulnerability that their Founder wasn't there at the time. The nation of Kolvas transmitted this information of a raid to the UTNA, who's leader Romanov Alaska, came back to Region. Grish leaders realised this and cancelled the raid.

Expanding that Grish went on to raid (Or at least try to) these regions.
The now-destroyed region of The Oceania, which was successfully raided,
The dead region of Hazebrouck, which had it's raid cancelled,
and so on.

Knowing that Grish followed the path of many raids from large military organizations, including The Black Hawks. Grish would tag along late in the raids after the raids became known, and then leave them when it was thought that a Liberation for the Region would come.

Finalising that Grish founded the Grishahakkaverchynot League, which is a neutral region and very peaceful. However, Grish is still participating in late raids.

Hereby condemns Grishahakkaverchynot

I joined the World Assembly because I wanted to be a bit of an influencer in the WA. I never left when I felt a liberation would come. I stopped raiding entirely. I only planned to raid a few regions.
This proposal is dumb. :lol2:
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:00 am

Barlyy wrote:Ah, Grishahakkaverchynot. He had embassies with us in our old region. He probably isn't worth the condemnation though. (and I'm not in the WA, atleast on this account)

But, one thing I'll add is, the Grishahakkaverchnot League isn't very "peaceful". That's one part where the draft is wrong.

Even someone who is banned from my region agrees your proposal is bad.
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:59 am

Tinhampton wrote:Full support, if it keeps the bloke away from Auctor! :P

I. NEVER. PLANNED. TO. RAID. AUCTOR.
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