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[DRAFT #3 - BUT ON HOLD?] Repeal SC#325 "Liberate Syria"

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Postby Goobergunchia » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:54 pm

Unibot III wrote:The very first WA Liberation, "Liberate Belgium" was passed after Belgium had actually been liberated. FRA and co. recovered the password and did a stealth liberation (incidentially I was actually on a school trip in Belgium at the time, so I remember this well - I had to use the hotel computer for updates - it was the 2000s!). The resolution was passed and the Belgian community requested the WA Liberation to remain in place.


We wish to emphasize the point about Belgium's request being crucial. The principle, as always, is native sovereignty.

Since in this case the natives seem to be inactive, we lean against repealing the resolution because it is a prophylactic against Region Griefing. A secret password cannot be imposed with a Liberation resolution in force, and the only nations with the moral right to impose a secret password are not, to our knowledge, requesting the ability to do so. If the natives were to request a repeal than of course the Security Council should honor that.

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Postby Unibot III » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:58 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Unibot III wrote:I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but there's a precedent for keeping "Liberate Syria."

The very first WA Liberation, "Liberate Belgium" was passed after Belgium had actually been liberated. FRA and co. recovered the password and did a stealth liberation (incidentially I was actually on a school trip in Belgium at the time, so I remember this well - I had to use the hotel computer for updates - it was the 2000s!). The resolution was passed and the Belgian community requested the WA Liberation to remain in place.

Why would Belgium have wanted to remain liberated? Because it makes good sense for any founderless UCR that doesn't want to be passworded. It premptively limits the capacity of invaders to grief a region. Belgium was eventually invaded again by a very, very sizeable TNI-LKE force, and the WA Liberation helped protect the region in advance of any griefing that might have taken place.

Is Syria a likely target for future invasions? I'd think so, yes. Iran, Syria, Greece, Belgium, France etc. etc. they're always targeted. Any RL Name Founderless UCR is at high risk for invasions.

There is a more basic reason. There is no native population to take care of the region. By repealing the liberation, all it does is give the cadre in control now, the chance to empty the region and refound it.


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