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[DRAFT] Condemn South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:47 am
by The Unified Missourtama States
The Security Council,

Recognizing that many nations participate in the usually morally reprehensible practice of colonization,

Recognizing South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos, as the most prolific colonizer in the history of this august Security Council,

Observing the many thousands of nations colonized by South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos, usually under the name of “Womble,” and the use of those nations to greedily expand the reaches of their region Chicken Overlords to be what is now the largest region in the world, and worried that they may use their position of power to spread their hateful ideologies, such as the elimination of all humans and the ideals of chicken supremacy,

Worried about what other further sinister functions they may use their many satellite states for,

Furthermore also aware that it is near impossible for South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos to fully provide for all the peoples of all their colonies,

Wishing to bring sanctions to slow down the spread of this evil menace,

Hereby Condemns South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos.

The Security Council,

Recognizing that many nations participate in the usually morally reprehensible practice of colonization,

Recognizing South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos, as the most prolific colonizer in the history of this august Security Council,

Observing the many thousands of nations colonized by South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos, usually under the name of “Womble,” and the use of those nations to greedily expand the reaches of their region Chicken Overlords to be what is now the largest region in the world, and worried that they may use their position of power to spread their hateful ideologies, such as the elimination of all humans and the ideals of chicken supremacy,

Knowing that South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos has participated in the takeover of regions in the past, most notably assisting in the raid of Old New Tiamat, and worried about what other further sinister functions they may use their many satellite states for,

Also aware of the gross weight which is placed on the World Census Bureau by South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos’s many colonies, to properly count all of the essentially uniform and unified nations, and the way in which they so severely skew the statistics of the World Census Bureau,

Furthermore also aware that it is near impossible for South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos to fully provide for all the peoples of all their colonies,

Wishing to bring sanctions to slow down the spread of this evil menace,

Hereby Condemns South His Majestys most loyal kangaroos.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:56 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc
Sorry TUMS, not seeing having lots and lots of puppets as Condemnable. No support from me.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:57 am
by Noahs Second Country
I'm not sure how I feel about this proposal. Harmonic Empire, Koem Kab, r3n, etc. all have thousands of puppets to their names but I would not consider a c/c for any of them (at least based on puppet count alone). With autologin scripts, managing such a large number is not particularly difficult.

If you could convince me that this project has built a notable community over in chicken overlords or that the stat barriers produced by the puppets are detrimental to everyone, then perhaps I'd be more inclined to support this.

edit: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:49 pm
by Daytime to Night
If making that many puppets is an commendable achievement then lots of us are not far off. They haven't done an especially efficient job of it, I could have made that many puppets in a day and moved on with my life if that was my ambition :p

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:44 pm
by Outer Sparta
Noahs Second Country wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about this proposal. Harmonic Empire, Koem Kab, r3n, etc. all have thousands of puppets to their names but I would not consider a c/c for any of them (at least based on puppet count alone). With autologin scripts, managing such a large number is not particularly difficult.

If you could convince me that this project has built a notable community over in chicken overlords or that the stat barriers produced by the puppets are detrimental to everyone, then perhaps I'd be more inclined to support this.

edit: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2

At least Koem Kab and the other card farmers use puppets to expand their card empire. The Womble ones aren't particularly designed to be card farmers and therefore serve no other purpose other than to inflate a region's member count.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:50 pm
by Sturmdrungen
This absurd proposal somehow warrants my attention even as a non-WA member. I was on very friendly terms with him recently right when he just got featured for having the most nations in the world, and treated me very well that he allowed me to remain in contact with him and his many puppets. If that proposal like this ever reaches the floor and gets passed, surely I will not be very happy about it and would inform him of this.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:28 pm
by The Unified Missourtama States
New Drafting!

Did a bit more researching (some which I probably should've waited for before first drafting) and confirmed Bruce's history of raiding, also added Noah's suggestions regarding stat barriers.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:42 pm
by Refuge Isle
No matter how annoying Chicken Overlords is during update and recruitment, the target doesn't have enough history and content to justify a condemnation, even if the draft were the best possible quality.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:38 pm
by Warzone Codger
Interesting to observe how the game's attitude had shifted in the last 7-8 years.

We once Condemned "True North" for being a puppet dump and the driving force for that was it triggered the likes of large UCRs like XKI and Europeia, the later which wrote the condemn. The only reason we repealed it half a year later was that the puppet master quit and all the nations were gone.

The condemn passed Votes For: 8,271 vs Votes Against: 3,445 but the NS forum threads didn't really record the breakdowns of how people voted. Did the feeders support it, or was it mainly a UCR thing and the power difference between UCRs and Feeders were not as stark then? At least names that a representative of GPers of today hold consistent views..

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:43 pm
by Greater Zeritae
This proposal doesn't really fit.