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[DRAFT] Commend Koem Kab

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East Blepia
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[DRAFT] Commend Koem Kab

Postby East Blepia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:20 pm

The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING that the nation Koem Kab has since time immemorial possessed the greatest amount of international art, and that this makes Koem Kab uniquely deserving of praise and respect, especially among other prominent art-trading nations,

DISTURBED by the pretensions of certain other nations, which may wish to dethrone Koem Kab and upset the natural order of things, perhaps for the following reasons:

1. The nation's leadership acting in a youthful and rebellious manner and seeking to change that which had ought to remain the same.

2. The nation's leadership holding Koem Kab in enmity, for some reason or other.

3. The nation's leadership seeking infamy and universal disdain

4. The nation's leadership simply not having any clue what they are doing.

AWARE that the effect of any other nation eclipsing Koem Kab in international artwork would be severe, and may even incur the wrath of Violet,

NOTING that Koem Kab, in its position as foremost patron of the arts, has always acted with the utmost kindness and respect towards smaller art traders, and that this reputation has been so powerful so as to cause the creation of the Cult of Koem Kab region, and the inclusion of tributes to Koem Kab in the World Factbook Entries of several other card-based regions, such as Second Best Card Farm, RSCA, Giovanniland, and Blepia,

CONCLUDING that it is in the best interest of the art trading community, and indeed of all of the nations of the world, that Koem Kab be recognized and congratulated for its great feat,

Hereby commends Koem Kab.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Morover » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:21 pm

Hard against. KK has accomplished enough for their initial condemnation, but not enough for a second c/c.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:24 pm

I'll post the same arguments I've said elsewhere
  • Koem Kab has already been condemned for their card play, and that resolution already encompasses a lot of what they have accomplished on NS
  • Koem Kab is not necessarily seen as a "good" person of cards. We all love and respect Koem Kab, but they play the villain.
  • Koem Kab doesn't engage frequently with other members of the cards community. Hence, the silent, omnipresent, and generally mysterious villain characterization of Koem Kab.
I don't see how the same actions should warrant both a commend and a condemn, especially since a condemnation is much more suitable for their character and actions.
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Postby East Blepia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:25 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:I'll post the same arguments I've said elsewhere
  • Koem Kab has already been condemned for their card play, and that resolution already encompasses a lot of what they have accomplished on NS
  • Koem Kab is not necessarily seen as a "good" person of cards. We all love and respect Koem Kab, but they play the villain.
  • Koem Kab doesn't engage frequently with other members of the cards community. Hence, the silent, omnipresent, and generally mysterious villain characterization of Koem Kab.
I don't see how the same actions should warrant both a commend and a condemn, especially since a condemnation is much more suitable for their character and actions.


Koem Kab is worthy of our praise.

Koem Kab is benevolent and just.

Also, Koem Kab has telegrammed me twice. In my experience Koem Kab is not opposed to negotiation or interaction, [OOC] he/she just does not participate in the Cards Discord.
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20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Bormiar » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:26 pm

Do you know he's condemned?

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Postby East Blepia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:27 pm

Bormiar wrote:Do you know he's condemned?


Yes.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:54 pm

Not a particularly good draft, plenty of generalizations, very few hard accomplishments worthy of a Commend.

Their Condemnation was of a much higher quality than this attempt.

Edit: your numbered points are utter crap.
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Postby East Blepia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:19 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:very few hard accomplishments worthy of a Commend


Koem Kab has become #1 in international artwork, remained there for a long while, and exceeded 200k bank. Koem Kab has inspired a region of followers, tributes from other regions, and general respect among the entire card-trading community, which I would say now forms a significant part of NationStates.

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Their Condemnation was of a much higher quality than this attempt.


Only after it had been drafted.

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:your numbered points are utter crap.


I realize that. I intend to re-format them while retaining the general message which I meant them to convey.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Noahs Second Country » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:25 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:very few hard accomplishments worthy of a Commend


Koem Kab has become #1 in international artwork, remained there for a long while, and exceeded 200k bank. Koem Kab has inspired a region of followers, tributes from other regions, and general respect among the entire card-trading community, which I would say now forms a significant part of NationStates.

It is noteworthy that Koem Kab was passed recently for a period of time and was not the first (or only!) to achieve 200K.

Their accomplishments are difficult and one-of-a-kind. However, they already have a shiny badge for exactly the points you listed above.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:13 pm

Morover wrote:Hard against. KK has accomplished enough for their initial condemnation, but not enough for a second c/c.

Agree with Morover here - maybe 2 or 3 players/regions in the history of ever have gotten double C/Cs. No way is KK worthy to be the next. They're influential and a good cards player but not worth double C/Cs.

Sedgistan got Commended, then Condemned, of which the Commend was repealed due to ideological shift and the Condemn wasn't particularly high-quality.
TBH has the double Condemns - they're the single largest raider org that NS can point to as "baddies".
TBR at one point held double Condemns, but based on how the resolutions fall I presume the double was merely due to a replace/repeal style scenario.

People are welcome to point out more examples but the fact of the matter is that only the most influential (and probably only GPers, /notsalty) can get double C/Cs. Even if KK was influential and popular enough, they haven't done anything particularly different from what's mentioned in their condemn, and certainly not another whole resolution's worth.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:13 am

East Blepia wrote:The Security Council,

ACKNOWLEDGING that the nation Koem Kab has since time immemorial possessed the greatest amount of international art, and that this makes Koem Kab uniquely deserving of praise and respect, especially among other prominent art-trading nations,

Preamble is okay.

East Blepia wrote:DISTURBED by the pretensions of certain other nations, which may wish to dethrone Koem Kab and upset the natural order of things, perhaps for the following reasons:

1. The nation's leadership acting in a youthful and rebellious manner and seeking to change that which had ought to remain the same.

2. The nation's leadership holding Koem Kab in enmity, for some reason or other.

3. The nation's leadership seeking infamy and universal disdain

4. The nation's leadership simply not having any clue what they are doing.

This is just drivel. There is nothing in here that lends itself to a Commendation. You haven't a clue what you're doing, so you've decided to just waffle and hope nobody notices.

East Blepia wrote:AWARE that the effect of any other nation eclipsing Koem Kab in international artwork would be severe, and may even incur the wrath of Violet,

Again why is this Commendable? Basically this is bs.

East Blepia wrote:NOTING that Koem Kab, in its position as foremost patron of the arts, has always acted with the utmost kindness and respect towards smaller art traders, and that this reputation has been so powerful so as to cause the creation of the Cult of Koem Kab region, and the inclusion of tributes to Koem Kab in the World Factbook Entries of several other card-based regions, such as Second Best Card Farm, RSCA, Giovanniland, and Blepia,

At long last you've managed to turn your attention to the subject in hand, namely Commending Koem Kab. However, there is nothing you've mentioned here that is remotely Commendable. A cult region? Mentioned in WFEs? Do us a favour, come up with something decent.

East Blepia wrote:CONCLUDING that it is in the best interest of the art trading community, and indeed of all of the nations of the world, that Koem Kab be recognized and congratulated for its great feat,

Hereby commends Koem Kab.

If Koem Kab is commendable, then you haven't managed to demonstrate it.

A draft that is poorly researched, mostly full of filler that has nothing to do with commendable acts. I'm going to call it a badge hunt and not a particularly clever one at that.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..


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