[PASSED] Commend Nuremgard

[Cretox State]

"Some nations are internationally acclaimed for their highly public contributions to the multiverse as a whole. Some nations are unequivocally reviled for their obvious damage to the same. Some nations work tirelessly behind the scenes to hold everything together. This proposal is intended to recognize the latter."

OOC: This one's a bit different from the other two issue C/C's already on the forum. As always, any feedback is appreciated (yes, I asked first).

Edit: This has been submitted.

Commend Nuremgard

The Security Council,

Comprehending the somber and demanding role of national leaders in maintaining the stability of nations and the integrity of governments throughout the multiverse against all odds,

Outlining the importance of rapid, decisive, and proactive decision-making on the part of national leaders to address potentially grave issues before they spiral out of control, and lamenting the fact that national leaders are often unable to engage in this form of decision-making due to issues not reaching their attention, or any response on their part being stalled by the slow and deliberate nature of a national government,

Most supportive of the tireless, hugely successful, and frankly paradoxical efforts of Nuremgard to covertly research potential problems that could compromise the functioning of every individual national government in existence, and their dedication to cutting through unnecessary red tape and allowing national leaders from all over the world to take effective action to solve these problems before they would otherwise be apparent to them,

Most impressed by the daily missions that Nuremgard undertakes to achieve the above, in which the nation's operatives stage incidents that present a menu of possible policy actions to national leaders in a succinct, comprehensive, and often amusing manner that can easily be understood by the average modern Leader, including:

1. Mission #1181, in which Nuremgardian agents risked humiliation pretending to actually care about jousting, in order to provide national governments with a supplementary stream of income and an easy way to keep their people happy with the way things are run,
2. Mission #531, in which Nuremgardian agents risked incarceration insulting national royalty on live television, outraging monarchs across the multiverse into making a decisive decision regarding lèse majesté laws,
3. Mission #710, in which Nuremgardian agents risked forced labor pretending to be disaffected serfs and forging economic reports, in order to ensure that feudal governments would be stabilized before their systems of serfdom could cause total economic collapse,
4. Mission #786, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their skins altering government reports on infection rates and pretending to be tattoo artists, in order to bring the issue of infections resultant from tattoos to the attention of national leaders before their nations could be decimated by full-blown pandemics,
5. Mission #545, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their sanity trying to sell national governments defective blenders, in order to bring the issue of expatriate voting to said governments' attention before it could compromise the integrity of elections in the eyes of the public,
6. Mission #596, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their lives to drug absolute monarchs and impersonate members of their royal courts, in order to force said monarchs to resolve the issue of royal succession before their nations could descend into civil war over the crown, and
7. Mission #780, in which Nuremgardian agents risked the existence of time and space itself by using quantum entanglement technology to implement a value-added tax in every nation in the multiverse, in order to push national leaders into addressing the essential question of taxation,

Emphasizing the Nuremgardian government's lack of any attempts to publicize or seek credit for their critical work in preserving national stability, including the aforementioned missions in addition to eleven others of equal significance,

Noting the unprecedented caliber of Nuremgard's operatives, who plan, arrange, and execute every one of their missions without any need for support from other nations, excepting review by certain shadowy and benevolent authorities dedicated to providing logistical infrastructure to assist in such missions,

Determined to recognize the unyielding hard work and dedication of this nation in ensuring the stability and integrity of governments throughout the multiverse, and believing that few nations on this front are more deserving of such an honor,

Hereby commends Nuremgard.

Commend Nuremgard

Validity: All.

The Security Council,

Noting the somber and demanding role of national leaders in maintaining the stability of nations and the integrity of governments throughout the multiverse against all odds,

Understanding that this stability is threatened every day by deeply interconnected forces and tensions which can easily snowball into crippling and unsolvable problems by the time they become apparent to those in power and are addressed through the usual bureaucracy of government,

Realizing the importance of rapid, decisive, and proactive decision-making on the part of national leaders to address these issues before they spiral out of control, and lamenting the fact that national leaders are often unable to engage in this form of decision-making due to issues not reaching their attention, or any response on their part being stalled by the slow and deliberate nature of a national government,

Earnestly supporting the tireless, hugely successful, and frankly paradoxical efforts of Nuremgard to covertly research potential problems that could compromise the functioning of every individual national government in existence, and their dedication to cutting through unnecessary red tape and allowing national leaders from all over the world to take effective action to solve these problems before they would otherwise be apparent to them,

Most impressed by the daily missions that Nuremgard undertakes to achieve the above, in which the nation's operatives stage incidents that present a menu of possible policy actions to national leaders in a succinct, comprehensive, and often amusing manner that can easily be understood by the average modern Leader, including:

1. Mission #1181, in which Nuremgardian agents risked humiliation pretending to actually care about jousting, in order to provide national governments with a supplementary stream of income and an easy way to keep their people happy with the way things are run,
2. Mission #894, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their morals posing as lecherous feudal lords, in order to force national governments to issue an official stance on the rights of nobles to deflower maiden brides of their estates before a high-ranking figure could be caught up in potentially disastrous controversy,
3. Mission #531, in which Nuremgardian agents risked incarceration insulting national royalty on live television, outraging monarchs across the multiverse into making a decisive decision regarding lèse majesté laws,
4. Mission #494, in which Nuremgardian agents risked corporal punishment disseminating fake rankings from civil rights organization Amnesty Interregional to national governments, in order to embarrass said governments into issuing a decisive stance on public floggings,
5. Mission #710, in which Nuremgardian agents risked forced labor pretending to be disaffected serfs and forging economic reports, in order to ensure that feudal governments would be stabilized before their systems of serfdom could cause total economic collapse,
6. Mission #768, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their skins altering government reports on infection rates and pretending to be tattoo artists, in order to bring the issue of infections resultant from tattoos to the attention of national leaders before their nations could be decimated by full-blown pandemics,
7. Mission #545, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their sanity trying to sell national governments defective blenders, in order to bring the issue of expatriate voting to said governments' attention before it could compromise the integrity of elections in the eyes of the public,
8. Mission #596, in which Nuremgardian agents risked their lives to drug absolute monarchs and impersonate members of their royal courts, in order to force said monarchs to resolve the issue of royal succession before their nations could descend into civil war over the crown,
9. Mission #1033, in which Nuremgardian agents risked war to pose as diplomats of nonexistent countries and high-five autocratic leaders, in order to force said autocrats to issue an official judgement as to royal etiquette before a controversy over such could drag their nations into devastating international conflicts, and
10. Mission #780, in which Nuremgardian agents risked the existence of time and space itself by using quantum entanglement technology to implement a value-added tax in every nation in the multiverse, in order to push national leaders into addressing the essential question of taxation,

Gratifyingly shocked by the Nuremgardian government's lack of any attempts to publicize or seek credit for their critical work in preserving national stability, including the aforementioned missions in addition to eight others of equal significance, and their general lack of any desire to build a completely warranted international name for themselves,

Amazed by the unprecedented caliber of Nuremgard's operatives, who plan, arrange, and execute every one of their missions without any need for support from other nations, excepting review by certain shadowy and benevolent authorities dedicated to providing logistical infrastructure to assist in such missions,

Recognizing that this dedication to efficiency and decisiveness is exemplified by Nuremgard's running of its own nation, which has been consistently ranked highly in every metric from environmental beauty to economic output, all while maintaining an incorrigible and efficient government,

Determined to recognize the unyielding hard work and dedication of this nation in ensuring the stability and integrity of governments throughout the multiverse, and believing that few nations on this front are more deserving of such an honor,

Hereby commends Nuremgard.

[Nuremgard]

This commendation has my full support. Thank you for recommending me and writing it.

[Morover]

I'm assuming the "Option 1" at the bottom is a reference towards answering issues. If it is, I wonder if it'd run afoul of R4 - if not, then can you explain what exactly it is?

[Cretox State]

I'm assuming the "Option 1" at the bottom is a reference towards answering issues. If it is, I wonder if it'd run afoul of R4 - if not, then can you explain what exactly it is?

OOC: I'm not putting that in the actual submission . Much like I won't be putting category into the Araraukar one.

[Jutsa]

ok ngl that option 1 bit I glanced over but that's actually impressive imo. Indeed, it's basically saying that the only option is to commend Nuremgard.
(well, or discarding the resolution, but that's basically the dismiss button. Overall I'm a fan, though I'd understand if it's a bit outside of acceptability?)

For sure, Nuremgard's an interesting choice. It's hard to say what exactly they have done outside of writing issues,
but the point about wanting to add issues to the game without making a big name of themselves definitely is something unique that... I can't say anyone else has done.
(Well, ok, 1x authors, maybe one or two 2x authors, but not 19 in counting authors.)

Certainly an interesting choice. I personally support this, but I can't say this'll be the easiest one to push through to commendation. (Though I'm certainly hoping it does. )

[Lavan Tiri]

Nurem is a bro. Totally behind this.

[Honeydewistania]

I think you should add more issues example, since they're the meat of it. Nuremgard has 17+ to choose from. Overall I support this, especially since it's commending a rather underappreciated and unknown author.

[Cretox State]

I think you should add more issues example, since they're the meat of it. Nuremgard has 17+ to choose from. Overall I support this, especially since it's commending a rather underappreciated and unknown author.

OOC: I bumped it up to ten issues.

[Picairn]

Full support. Nuremgard is very underrated, he deserves credit for all of his achievements on Issues.

[Drasnia]

This will sound a bit weird, but Nuremgard is the kind of nation you'd make up as a hypothetical when discussing whether writing issues is commendable per see. They've authored 18 issues yet have never interacted with the greater issues community. They've never posted in Got Issues? even. So, is authorship alone a commendable action?

I don't think so, and I hope to lay out why I believe that.

In my opinion, commendations should be reserved for people who go above and beyond what is expected of them. You can argue that just writing an issue that gets accepted is going above and beyond expectations; however, it isn't a one-person process. Some issue submissions are pretty bad and only get dragged kicking and screaming to publication because an editor really loves the premise of it and is willing to sink a lot of time and effort just to get it publishable. At 18 issues authored, I don't think that's the case for Nuremgard

The thing about commendations for issue authors is that most of the time, authorship is only one of several supporting details in it. I'm going to go through each commendation and explain why Nuremgard's doesn't meet that same bar.

SC#126: Commend Sanctaria. This commendation focuses primarily on Sanct's regional government work, then goes on to talk about WA authorship and then finally issue authorship.

SC#190: Commend Nation of Quebec. This is perhaps the weakest of all active commendations of authors. Like this draft, it only talks about his authorship. That said, NoQ was a pillar of the community. He helped mentor me when I was starting out, and he helped a lot of people in GI by giving feedback. Honestly, this comm doesn't hold up that well and I wouldn't be opposed to a R&R.

SC#224: Commend Drasnia. This one starts off with my authorship, but quickly moves on to the work I've put into GI and into regional governance. It might be first, but it isn't the most important bit. (It's just impressive sounding to outsiders).

SC#233: Commend Zwangzug. Zwangzug is a prolific sports RPer and issue authorship rightfully is only a footnote at the end.

SC#235: Commend Candlewhisper Archive. This is also similar to NoQ's commendation. The actual text is only about authorship, but it is OOCly motivated by factors that can't be explained in an SC proposal.

SC#236: Commend Ransium. This one is almost entirely concerned with Ransium's tireless efforts to build and improve Forest. Authorship only comes at the end.

SC#258: Commend Helaw. This one is mostly concerned with helping develop the Augustin Alliance. Issues only come at the end.

SC#275: Commend Jutsa. This one's similar to my commendations. Issues come at the beginning, but it's mostly about his work and importance in the community.

SC#308: Commend Candensia. Starts off with issues, goes on to talk about regional government and SC work.

Nuremgard's accomplishments don't hold up to the same scrutiny that most active commendations do. I simply can't support this even though they're a good author.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

While the draft is nicely written and presented, I think most of it is filler. Yes, there are a number of issues authored by the nominee, but not much else - the rest of the text tries to disguise this lack of other achievements.

Will not support this if it gets to the vote.

[Authoritaria-Imperia]

Yes, there are a number of issues authored by the nominee, but not much else - the rest of the text tries to disguise this lack of other achievements.

Ditto. I'd agree — the resolution takes a bit too long to get to the point. That point is then ten points rolled into one, and it takes a long time after that to get to the operative clause. I'd cut down the mission examples to five or six, and try to spice up that wording a bit too (the current "… in which Nuremgardian agents risked" format is functional, but could be replaced with a variety of more interesting/varied phrases). Then, I'd cut out most of the side-clauses, including the stats clause at the end which feels a bit tacked-on.

Hope I didn't sound too harsh there — this does sound like a worthy nominee, but the draft's just too long!

Edit: Sorry for all the edits; I tried to make a baguette metaphor and it failed despite my best efforts.

[Cretox State]

I think you should add more issues example, since they're the meat of it. Nuremgard has 17+ to choose from. Overall I support this, especially since it's commending a rather underappreciated and unknown author.

Yes, there are a number of issues authored by the nominee, but not much else - the rest of the text tries to disguise this lack of other achievements.

Ditto. I'd agree — the resolution takes a bit too long to get to the point. That point is then ten points rolled into one, and it takes a long time after that to get to the operative clause. I'd cut down the mission examples to five or six, and try to spice up that wording a bit too (the current "… in which Nuremgardian agents risked" format is functional, but could be replaced with a variety of more interesting/varied phrases). Then, I'd cut out most of the side-clauses, including the stats clause at the end which feels a bit tacked-on.

Hope I didn't sound too harsh there — this does sound like a worthy nominee, but the draft's just too long!

Edit: Sorry for all the edits; I tried to make a baguette metaphor and it failed despite my best efforts.

OOC: Sure, I can streamline things a bit.

[Cretox State]

Ditto. I'd agree — the resolution takes a bit too long to get to the point. That point is then ten points rolled into one, and it takes a long time after that to get to the operative clause. I'd cut down the mission examples to five or six, and try to spice up that wording a bit too (the current "… in which Nuremgardian agents risked" format is functional, but could be replaced with a variety of more interesting/varied phrases). Then, I'd cut out most of the side-clauses, including the stats clause at the end which feels a bit tacked-on.

Hope I didn't sound too harsh there — this does sound like a worthy nominee, but the draft's just too long!

Edit: Sorry for all the edits; I tried to make a baguette metaphor and it failed despite my best efforts.

"We cut the proposal down to seven missions, and removed two clauses. We can cut it down more if necessary. The "… in which Nuremgardian agents risked" format is a stylistic choice, though not one we're particularly attached to."

[Cretox State]

OOC: Bumping this.

[Cretox State]

OOC: Tentatively moving to Last Call for submission later in the week.

[Comfed]

Not sure that we can commend people for just submitting a lot of issues - not even posting in the forum!

[Sedgistan]

Not sure that we can commend people for just submitting a lot of issues - not even posting in the forum!

Why? Issues are the core of the game, and developing that relies on people writing and submitting good issues.

[Candensia]

Not sure that we can commend people for just submitting a lot of issues - not even posting in the forum!

For merely *submitting* an issue? No, not commendable. But the fact that so many submissions from Nuremgard have been published is something that is commendable, and gives us idea of their notable writing skills and dedication. If Nuremgard was someone who sent in garbage, they'd probably have far fewer published issues, and be directed to draft in GI as per established norms.

Now, is the issues contribution alone enough for a commendation? A different question entirely, and one I personally am still considering.

[Cretox State]

OOC: Pulled to fix a typo. Will resubmit tomorrow at minor.

[Cretox State]

OOC: Resubmitted. I'm eagerly awaiting an instarepeal 12 hours before this goes to vote.

[Flying Eagles]

Some issue submissions are pretty bad and only get dragged kicking and screaming to publication because an editor really loves the premise of it and is willing to sink a lot of time and effort just to get it publishable.

I am interested if there's a way to know how much of the nominee's issues are the nominee's work and how much are the editor's work. Usually, the editor drafts in the forum so we know how much of the work is theirs, but that's not the case this time. Unfortunately, since we don't know if the nominee's issue submissions are any good to begin with, I doubt I can support unless we receive some information answering this question.

Counterpoint: We doubt any issue editor would put up with poor submissions by the same author 18 times, but then there's the question of whether that's enough for a commend. Considering that Maxtopia, with 35 issues, does not have a commend, we'd doubt so.

Also, we wouldn't specify "eleven" other issues, as they will likely write more in the future.

[Comfed]

In my opinion, people in the GI community who draft issues on the forum, give constructive feedback to others, and actually get issues published are the people we should commend. This was my issue with commend Trotterdam and it is especially why I am opposed to this proposal.

[Honeydewistania]

In my opinion, people in the GI community who draft issues on the forum, give constructive feedback to others, and actually get issues published are the people we should commend. This was my issue with commend Trotterdam and it is also why I am opposed to this proposal.

Trotterdam is the prime example of someone who gives constructive feedback though...

[Drasnia]

In my opinion, people in the GI community who draft issues on the forum, give constructive feedback to others, and actually get issues published are the people we should commend. This was my issue with commend Trotterdam and it is especially why I am opposed to this proposal.

You should actually do your research before saying stuff like this. Trotterdam is the sterling example of someone who give great feedback all the time. He also got two issues published as Milostein, so it's not like he's some slouch as a writer either.