(ABANDONED)Liberate SECFanatics

[Aurum Raider]

When this proposal is at vote I shall get my defender friends such as TGW to help secure it

Defender support is important to passing a liberation. Without defenders, you can pass a liberation proposal all you like, but it will be toothless.
If they aren't interested in doing anything gameside, all you've done is added a badge to the region - the raiders still control it.

I'll hold judgement to see if any defenders come and support this proposal, but given the lack of familiar faces in the other thread I wouldn't get my hopes up.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm against it regardless, for obvious reasons.

[Outer Sparta]

You did get warned earlier for WA campaign spam on RMBs.

Yes I know!!!!

If you wish to seek support for the resolution just see if you can get any defenders on board with it, otherwise it's touthless and just amounts to no less than a badge hunt instead of doing an actual service.

[Qvait]

Find me a single defender region that's interested in liberating a region that was founded by a nation that was DEATed and linked to a Nazi-aligned region.

[Outer Sparta]

Find me a single defender region that's interested in liberating a region that was founded by a nation that was DEATed and linked to a Nazi-aligned region.

Nazi-aligned region? Oh boy didn't know about that part...

[Squidroidia]

We have bigger fish to fry. We should be focusing on condemning Lily, and not this

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

The Security Council,

Observing SECFanatics is an old region at least 3 years old founded by Rbbf

No, three years old is not old, it's barely a teenager.

Admiring SECFanatics's work and boasting for having 2,000 embassies before the founder Rbbf ceased to exist leaving a chance for raiders to invade the region

A poorly phrased clause and the founder allegedly was DEATed for non-PG 13 role-play - do you really think saving this region is appropriate considering the rumoured behaviour of the founder?

Disgusted that once the founder disappeared The Black Hawks invaded the region and closed down more that 2,000 embassies

Confirming that many raider regions such as The North Pacific and Lone Wolves United helped The Black Hawks raid SECFanatics

Two clauses that with better writing skills could be combined into one. As it is this is just filler. You've also been told that TNP are not raiders.

Shocked that once defenders came to SECFanatics aid and helping detag the regionThe Black Hawks raided the region AGAIN, kicked all the defenders out, and put up a password making it impossible to detag the region and defend SECFanatics

Another badly written clause, makes my head ache trying to read it.

Disgraceful that the regions flag portrays a black hawk stabbing a deflated basketball

Almost a word for word copy of a clause from Dollystana's effort. Probably not enough to be classed as plagiarism, but it just shows the lack of effort and original thinking that has gone into this draft.

Appalled at the fact that, The Black Hawks raided the said region, SECFanatics just to "gain attention"

And this is a good reason to liberate the region, why?

The World Assembly hereby liberates SECFanatics

You started the draft with "The Security Council" - putting "The World Assembly" in this clause is superfluous.

You have produced a confused and muddled draft with a soupçon of copy pasta. You have not given one good reason in the text why the region should be liberated apart from, as Aurum said, ""raiders bad" fluff". They also pointed out that neither you nor Dollystana have been able to produce one former native of the region to support your proposals.

We have bigger fish to fry. We should be focusing on condemning Lily, and not this

This is about SECFanatics. If you want to talk about Lily take it to your own thread please.

[Team Leo]

Two clauses that with better writing skills could be combined into one. As it is this is just filler. You've also been told that TNP are not raiders.

Sure about that

[Outer Sparta]

Sure about that

Then add TNP to your resolution if you want to.

[Praeceps]

Just because the NPA helped raid the region doesn't mean that TNP is raider. We're Independent.

[Outer Sparta]

Just because the NPA helped raid the region doesn't mean that TNP is raider. We're Independent.

Imagine thinking TNP is a raider and is in line with TBH.

[WayNeacTia]

To uh remove the password, get defender friends, and have my embassy back

You have learned absolutely nothing have you. Even if this gets to quorum, and by some miracle looks like it has a chance of passing, the Hawks will just refound the region, and you will have achieved absolutely nothing. As for getting defender friends to help you? Don’t make me laugh. Just drop this whole endeavour. You will be better off.

I care about SEC. They were my trusty allies before TBH had to ruin everything. When this proposal is at vote I shall get my defender friends such as TGW to help secure it

Yes I am sure Tim, Thomas and Vince are just drooling with anticipation to help you secure it. You do realize once it is liberated it cannot be passworded again until the liberation is repealed? Perhaps instead you should just continue with your little side show in The Anti Fascism Alliances, "refounding" so called "fascist strongholds" that didn't exist until you created them.

[Northern Pole]

Confirming that many raider regions such as The North Pacific and Lone Wolves United helped The Black Hawks raid SECFanatics

TNP isn't raider x)

Shocked that once defenders came to SECFanatics aid and helping detag the regionThe Black Hawks raided the region AGAIN, kicked all the defenders out, and put up a password making it impossible to detag the region and defend SECFanatics

We came back because s o m e o n e decided to unsuppress and like a post calling TBH fascist and racist~ Was going to leave it alone but then they did that and we decided SECFan could use a lil more raiding ;P

In any case! The natives moved on. If it was liberated, we'd probably just raid them again. Trying to liberate SECFanatics is just a continued waste of time~

I think you guys have to accept the role you play in the game, you can't be the bad guys and expect to viewed in a good light


Fascism is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society (you call each other Colonel and Sergeant etc) does that sound like the Black Hawks?

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

TNP isn't raider x)


We came back because s o m e o n e decided to unsuppress and like a post calling TBH fascist and racist~ Was going to leave it alone but then they did that and we decided SECFan could use a lil more raiding ;P

In any case! The natives moved on. If it was liberated, we'd probably just raid them again. Trying to liberate SECFanatics is just a continued waste of time~

I think you guys have to accept the role you play in the game, you can't be the bad guys and expect to viewed in a good light


Fascism is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society (you call each other Colonel and Sergeant etc) does that sound like the Black Hawks?

They can’t be that bad - the author of this abandoned attempt just tried to join them (and then got kicked).

[Dollystana]

Against, this is a parody of my proposal but with worse grammar. JAKKER LOCK THIS UP?

[Dollystana]

Liberating a region just so raiders can raid it again is fundamentally flawed. Against.

Kuriko: iRaN aNyOnE?

[Team Leo]

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It aint none of your business why I tried to join them. I will not state why. It is NONE of your business

[Refuge Isle]

It aint none of your business why I tried to join them. I will not state why

It will remain a mystery for the ages.

[Aurum Raider]

Fascism is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society (you call each other Colonel and Sergeant etc) does that sound like the Black Hawks?

That has to be the most reductionist take on Fascism I've seen in a long time.
TBH are certainly play the bad guys, but characterizing them as fascist is so incredibly misguided it's almost hilarious.

It aint none of your business why I tried to join them. I will not state why

Given that half the proposal deals with TBH it's highly relevant, but given the proposal was abandoned it's a moot point.

[Team Leo]

Against, this is a parody of my proposal but with worse grammar. JAKKER LOCK THIS UP?

Read the title, it says ABANDONED

(big tip: read the title before posting. I am not going to submit it)

[WayNeacTia]

Against, this is a parody of my proposal but with worse grammar. JAKKER LOCK THIS UP?

Read the title, it says ABANDONED

(big tip: read the title before posting. am not going to submit it)

Then what was the point in posting it? Pro tip: Don’t try to join the Hawks, after posting all over RMB’s that #1 You are friends with TGW, and #2 You are trying to join TGW. As I said earlier, concentrate on your little side show in “TAFA”.