by Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:16 am
by Noahs Second Country » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:20 am
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
by Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:21 am
Noahs Second Country wrote:So right after the other proposal fails you are trying this again, without learning from any of the mistakes of the last one. I see absolutely no reason to liberate this region when the founder was DEATed and the natives have all moved on. Please convince me otherwise.
Against.
by Miss Bad Life Choices » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:32 am
Confirming that many raider regions such as The North Pacific and Lone Wolves United helped The Black Hawks raid SECFanatics
Shocked that once defenders came to SECFanatics aid and helping detag the regionThe Black Hawks raided the region AGAIN, kicked all the defenders out, and put up a password making it impossible to detag the region and defend SECFanatics
by Aurum Raider » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:34 am
Team Leo wrote:Shocked that once defenders came to SECFanatics aid and helping detag the regionThe Black Hawks raided the region AGAIN, kicked all the defenders out, and put up a password making it impossible to detag the region and defend SECFanatics
The North Polish Union wrote:Additionally, virtually all founderless regions are viewed as falling under the defenders' allegedly protective purview. This is a form of colonialism that the great imperialist regions of NS history could only dream of.
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:36 am
by Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:36 am
Aurum Raider wrote:Team Leo wrote:Shocked that once defenders came to SECFanatics aid and helping detag the regionThe Black Hawks raided the region AGAIN, kicked all the defenders out, and put up a password making it impossible to detag the region and defend SECFanatics
The impression I got from the last thread is that the defenders are also not particularly interested in defending it further - though as I am not a defender I obviously can't speak for them.
Your proposal is no less sparse in detail as the last one, and addresses all the same points. Unlike the last one, you don't acknowledge the successor regions at all, and seem to by trying to ride your way to victory by filling half the proposal with 'raider bad' fluff.
Did you consult the natives for this proposal, and do they have any interest in liberating or moving back into their region. Do they have any interest in attempting a refound? There are already two successor regions that are spamming out embassy requests - what will this liberation accomplish, what is it's purpose?
by Atheris » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:38 am
by Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:40 am
Miss Bad Life Choices wrote:Confirming that many raider regions such as The North Pacific and Lone Wolves United helped The Black Hawks raid SECFanatics
TNP isn't raider x)Shocked that once defenders came to SECFanatics aid and helping detag the regionThe Black Hawks raided the region AGAIN, kicked all the defenders out, and put up a password making it impossible to detag the region and defend SECFanatics
We came back because s o m e o n e decided to unsuppress and like a post calling TBH fascist and racist~ Was going to leave it alone but then they did that and we decided SECFan could use a lil more raiding ;P
In any case! The natives moved on. If it was liberated, we'd probably just raid them again. Trying to liberate SECFanatics is just a continued waste of time~
Atheris wrote:Liberating a region just so raiders can raid it again is fundamentally flawed. Against.
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:42 am
Team Leo wrote:Aurum Raider wrote:The impression I got from the last thread is that the defenders are also not particularly interested in defending it further - though as I am not a defender I obviously can't speak for them.
Your proposal is no less sparse in detail as the last one, and addresses all the same points. Unlike the last one, you don't acknowledge the successor regions at all, and seem to by trying to ride your way to victory by filling half the proposal with 'raider bad' fluff.
Did you consult the natives for this proposal, and do they have any interest in liberating or moving back into their region. Do they have any interest in attempting a refound? There are already two successor regions that are spamming out embassy requests - what will this liberation accomplish, what is it's purpose?
To uh remove the password, get defender friends, and have my embassy back
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by Atheris » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:43 am
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:44 am
by Atheris » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:44 am
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:45 am
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:48 am
by Aurum Raider » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:50 am
Team Leo wrote:To uh remove the password, get defender friends, and have my embassy back
The North Polish Union wrote:Additionally, virtually all founderless regions are viewed as falling under the defenders' allegedly protective purview. This is a form of colonialism that the great imperialist regions of NS history could only dream of.
by Atheris » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:51 am
Aurum Raider wrote:Team Leo wrote:To uh remove the password, get defender friends, and have my embassy back
So no, you did not consult the natives, then? You should get on that.
Otherwise, if you don't already have backing from defenders, you probably should secure that before a liberation proposal passes.
That aside, it appears your reasons for wanting to liberate it are flimsy at best, and don't have the region's - or the natives - interests at heart.
You likely should go back to the drawing board and re-evaluate why you want to liberate the region in the first place, because if you don't care about the region, neither does anybody else.
by Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:51 am
Aurum Raider wrote:Team Leo wrote:To uh remove the password, get defender friends, and have my embassy back
So no, you did not consult the natives, then? You should get on that.
Otherwise, if you don't already have backing from defenders, you probably should secure that before a liberation proposal passes.
That aside, it appears your reasons for wanting to liberate it are flimsy at best, and don't have the region's - or the natives - interests at heart.
You likely should go back to the drawing board and re-evaluate why you want to liberate the region in the first place, because if you don't care about the region, neither does anybody else.
by Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:52 am
Atheris wrote:Aurum Raider wrote:So no, you did not consult the natives, then? You should get on that.
Otherwise, if you don't already have backing from defenders, you probably should secure that before a liberation proposal passes.
That aside, it appears your reasons for wanting to liberate it are flimsy at best, and don't have the region's - or the natives - interests at heart.
You likely should go back to the drawing board and re-evaluate why you want to liberate the region in the first place, because if you don't care about the region, neither does anybody else.
As much as I absolutely despise your practices, you're completely right. Liberation should always start with permission from the natives.
Nobody in their right mind would support this as-is.
by Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:53 am
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