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Team Leo
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Postby Team Leo » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:21 am

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Dollystana wrote:Yes I would, and stop or I might condemn you next.

Howls of derisive laughter. I wouldn’t mind being Condemned, but I would rather it was done by someone who had a better command of the SC basics.

Dollystana wrote:It was funny at first, but now it’s annoying. And besides, they are a known troll.

Not very nice.

Plz be nice to Dolly. She/he are new to the forums

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:59 am

Dollystana wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Why would you condemn BBD for opposing your resolution?

It was funny at first, but now it’s annoying. And besides, they are a known troll.

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Postby UENW-Wooloos » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:57 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
UENW-Wooloos wrote:Wrong this Liberate has nothing to do with what has happend in Old Zealand, that was just pure backstabbing by the Founder who ran to the Mods telling lies, who fell for their lies.

Not a mod, but I don't see a need to bitch about mods or your founder or whatever. As you pointed out, this liberation has nothing to do with that.

Because I was getting Wayneactia facts right.
And I was not fucking bitching, I was mearly stating a fact.

Yer your not a Mod and since Sedg didnt say anything to me, leave the modding to the mods.
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UENW-Wooloos wrote:Wrong this Liberate has nothing to do with what has happend in Old Zealand, that was just pure backstabbing by the Founder who ran to the Mods telling lies, who fell for their lies.

The liberation has nothing to do with that. But why did you go around sticking your nose into other regions by mercilessly advertising this proposal to be approved? What are you gains for having the region liberated?

I never did, so get you facts right.
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Outer Sparta
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:07 pm

UENW-Wooloos wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Not a mod, but I don't see a need to bitch about mods or your founder or whatever. As you pointed out, this liberation has nothing to do with that.

Because I was getting Wayneactia facts right.
And I was not fucking bitching, I was mearly stating a fact.

Yer your not a Mod and since Sedg didnt say anything to me, leave the modding to the mods.
Outer Sparta wrote:The liberation has nothing to do with that. But why did you go around sticking your nose into other regions by mercilessly advertising this proposal to be approved? What are you gains for having the region liberated?

I never did, so get you facts right.

Tell me then, what is your interest to getting this liberation passed? To go after the Black Hawks? Or is it anything else?
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Postby Wayneactia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:11 pm

Dollystana wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:The liberation has nothing to do with that. But why did you go around sticking your nose into other regions by mercilessly advertising this proposal to be approved? What are you gains for having the region liberated?

More regions to chat on. Also 50 approvals, only 21 more to go!

Smells more like a badge grab to me.

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Postby 20XX » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:36 pm

Go to sleep and wake up to another two pages. Wew.

Dollystana wrote:SEC Fanatics has literally 1 nation and it is RBBF. And besides, it literally says in your title that you are a raider so biased.

I am absolutely biased - I will make no attempt to deny this. I have Raider Purist in my signature and wear my biases on my sleeve.
However your ad-hominem attack here does not answer my still-valid questions, and I don't intend to drop them until I get a satisfactory answer, so I will ask again.

Aurum Raider wrote:1. Have you consulted the natives for this liberation.

2. What will this liberation accomplish, and why is passing it necessary.
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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:53 pm

This is getting extremely close to reaching quorum, and I'm quite surprised. There's so little meat — I feel like with a little more time and care, this could have been a strong proposal, and it does sound like it's needed, but I can't support something this thin. Take the "deflating a basketball" clause, for instance — it sounds as if the author's grasping at straws here, and it's a shame, because with a little reframing (e.g. "shameless defacement of precious regional history and mockery of its culture") it could have actually worked. As-is, I cannot give my approval, and if this reaches a vote I'll have to go "Against".

It's my hope that in the future, the author will be willing to take a little more time to craft their proposal and make it shine.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:59 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:This is getting extremely close to reaching quorum, and I'm quite surprised. There's so little meat — I feel like with a little more time and care, this could have been a strong proposal, and it does sound like it's needed, but I can't support something this thin. Take the "deflating a basketball" clause, for instance — it sounds as if the author's grasping at straws here, and it's a shame, because with a little reframing (e.g. "shameless defacement of precious regional history and mockery of its culture") it could have actually worked. As-is, I cannot give my approval, and if this reaches a vote I'll have to go "Against".

It's my hope that in the future, the author will be willing to take a little more time to craft their proposal and make it shine.

Some people probably went on an aggressive WA campaign for it.
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Postby Aurum Raider » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:42 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:it does sound like it's needed

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:With a little reframing (e.g. "shameless defacement of precious regional history and mockery of its culture") it could have actually worked.


It's a liberation for a dead region, and the natives in it have already moved on - this is something the proposal itself points out.

I think that the author's attempts to dodge my questions speaks for itself.
The author is not interested in the natives of the region, and the blatant lack of care taken in the writing of this proposal is more than evident.

With the apparent lack of defenders interested in doing an actual gameside liberation (that is, kicking the raider ROs out), this proposal is basically a huge waste of time.
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Qvait
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Postby Qvait » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:00 pm

How tragic. I guess the supporters of this proposal, however few, can take solace in the fact that this proposal avoided a shellacking in the vote.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:36 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:This is getting extremely close to reaching quorum, and I'm quite surprised. There's so little meat — I feel like with a little more time and care, this could have been a strong proposal, and it does sound like it's needed, but I can't support something this thin. Take the "deflating a basketball" clause, for instance — it sounds as if the author's grasping at straws here, and it's a shame, because with a little reframing (e.g. "shameless defacement of precious regional history and mockery of its culture") it could have actually worked. As-is, I cannot give my approval, and if this reaches a vote I'll have to go "Against".

It's my hope that in the future, the author will be willing to take a little more time to craft their proposal and make it shine.

Some people probably went on an aggressive WA campaign for it.

One person certainly went on an illegal RMB spam campaign for it - the support numbers did seem to jump after that, even though all the posts were suppressed by Moderation.

So glad this did not make it to vote, it was a poorly thought out and badly written mess.
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Northern Pole
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Postby Northern Pole » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:37 am

What happened to it? When I went to bed it only needed about five more votes I felt shure it would get through, my first thought in the morning was the mods must have pulled it for some reason

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:40 am

Northern Pole wrote:What happened to it? When I went to bed it only needed about five more votes I felt shure it would get through, my first thought in the morning was the mods must have pulled it for some reason

Not pulled, just failed to reach quorum.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:18 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Some people probably went on an aggressive WA campaign for it.

One person certainly went on an illegal RMB spam campaign for it - the support numbers did seem to jump after that, even though all the posts were suppressed by Moderation.

So glad this did not make it to vote, it was a poorly thought out and badly written mess.

Without the spam campaign the proposal wouldn't even have half of the approvals.
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Postby Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:26 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Some people probably went on an aggressive WA campaign for it.

One person certainly went on an illegal RMB spam campaign for it - the support numbers did seem to jump after that, even though all the posts were suppressed by Moderation.

So glad this did not make it to vote, it was a poorly thought out and badly written mess.

I have done the campaign for the proposal and I say so in the glory of Team Leo

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Postby Dollystana » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:56 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Northern Pole wrote:What happened to it? When I went to bed it only needed about five more votes I felt shure it would get through, my first thought in the morning was the mods must have pulled it for some reason

Not pulled, just failed to reach quorum.

Not going to resubmit it this time.
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Postby Team Leo » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:15 am

Dollystana wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Not pulled, just failed to reach quorum.

Not going to resubmit it this time.

Have it all covered look viewtopic.php?f=24&t=488109
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:54 pm

Thank goodness this didn't pass.
They were spamming embassy requests, to compete with the Embassy.
I am more than happy that RBBF got admin deleted.
The Black Hawks should stay in the region for as long as they want.
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