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[Draft] Condemn The East Pacific

Postby Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:11 pm

Security Council of the World Assembly

Chief Marshall The Pixle Empire of the Triumvirate Union ex rel. The Region of The Erasa System, Petitioner
v.
The Region of The East Pacific, Respondent

The Erasa System’s Motion to Condemnation The East Pacific

Let it be known that on the twenty-fourth day of March, of the year 2020, the East Pacific Sovereign Army (hereinafter EPSA) seized control of the founderless The Erasa System, installing as the World Assembly Delegate The Dominion of Catainia and holding all executive power of the region. Let it be known that the EPSA, “with The Atlae Isles as trigger, Catiania, Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich and Oofery” vandalised the appearance of the region, and abandoned the region, leaving Catainia as a regional officer with the authorities of: appearance, communications, and embassies. In their vandalization, the EPSA announced and justified their seizure of the region by proclaiming “EPSA is really very cool, you know. Totally fabulous. That's why we took this region”. Four of the original member nations of the region have since returned to and regained the control of The Erasa System, instituted a constitution establishing an organised system of governance, and branded the four self-proclaimed leaders of the detestable raid “International Terrorists and Menaces to the Region”. The Triumvirate Union of the Erasa System (hereinafter Triumvirate Union) then commissioned the drafting of this motion to condemn, written by Chief Marshall The Pixle Empire on behalf of the Triumvirate Union.

With the completion of the reclamation and securement of the governing body of The Erasa System, the Triumvirate Union of the Erasa System moves to file an international condemnation against the fifth and latest of the region’s invaders, The East Pacific. The Triumvirate Union moves to condemn The East Pacific for their heinous crimes against the world, the crime in question being the raid and temporary seizure of power of The Erasa System, one of many raids performed by the regional military. The Triumvirate Union calls out for the international community—the World Assembly—to reprimand The East Pacific by means of official condemnation. The Triumvirate Union hopes that—in the condemnation of The East Pacific—the international community can move closer to ending the reprehensible practice of raiding throughout the world, and give a greater assurance of safety and international protection to the small, founderless, and helpless regions of the world.

The motion hereby condemns The East Pacific.

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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:13 pm

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Postby Atheris » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:16 pm

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Postby Bormiar » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:23 pm

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:
The Erasa System’s Motion to Condemnation The East Pacific

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Rule 4 - not in the perspective of the world assembly. Most SC resolutions are written like this:

The Security Council,

Noting Bormiar is bad,

Hereby condemns Bormiar.


Notice that this is a sentence written in third person:

    The Security Council hereby condemns Bormiar.

    ==>

    The Security Council, noting Bormiar is bad, hereby condemns Bormiar.

Hope that helps!

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:17 pm

You need to rip it up and start again. Have a read of other Condemnations to get an idea of how they should be presented, then have a read of the rules so you can make it legal.
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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:24 pm

I condemn the condemnation of the east pacific.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:26 pm

Nevertopia wrote:I condemn the condemnation of the east pacific.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:27 pm

Nevertopia wrote:I condemn the condemnation of the east pacific.

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[Draft] Condemn The East Pacific

Postby Lointland » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:34 pm

Let’s see if this even is legal.

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Postby Team Leo » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:29 am

I support this proposal

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Postby The Pixle Empire » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:25 am

Bormiar wrote:Rule 4 - not in the perspective of the world assembly.


So what you are saying is that the World Assembly is completely incapable of accepting varying levels of professional presentation? If I so choose to write my proposal is a format other than what all others blindly use--without question--you say I am wrong? Even if it breaks no actual rules? I see no rule regarding the proposal's format; perhaps one should be written if the moderators care so deeply about it. All subsections of the fourth rule pertain only to the content of the proposal; not its format. If the moderators are to claim that a certain format violates a content-related rule, where does it stop? What else violates such a rule? The author's ethnicity? The nation's political alignments? I vehemently object to any insinuation that my proposal is illegal due to a disagreement that the majority holds against me when I am in no violation of any actual rule. Dare I say that this is actually The East Pacific's grasp on the affairs of the World Assembly? Dare I say that this is corruption irreversibly rooted in the site itself? I do dare to say these things.

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Postby The Pixle Empire » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:32 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:then have a read of the rules so you can make it legal.


I have read the rules, and none say anything in regards to the format in which I may write my proposal. Should this be how the SC operates, then the SC is a corrupt and broken system. To be declared illegal without any actual rule violation is an inexcusable suppression of my right as a member nation to raise the concerns I may have. I would say that to declare this proposal illegal is a complete abuse of authority over my proposal; there is no rule violation present, and as such there is no illegality in it.

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Postby La Xinga » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:37 am

The Pixle Empire wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Rule 4 - not in the perspective of the world assembly.


So what you are saying is that the World Assembly is completely incapable of accepting varying levels of professional presentation? If I so choose to write my proposal is a format other than what all others blindly use--without question--you say I am wrong? Even if it breaks no actual rules? I see no rule regarding the proposal's format; perhaps one should be written if the moderators care so deeply about it. All subsections of the fourth rule pertain only to the content of the proposal; not its format. If the moderators are to claim that a certain format violates a content-related rule, where does it stop? What else violates such a rule? The author's ethnicity? The nation's political alignments? I vehemently object to any insinuation that my proposal is illegal due to a disagreement that the majority holds against me when I am in no violation of any actual rule. Dare I say that this is actually The East Pacific's grasp on the affairs of the World Assembly? Dare I say that this is corruption irreversibly rooted in the site itself? I do dare to say these things.

I- I think it needs to be written like that. If he submits it like this, it would probably be: Illegal, not written form WA perspective.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:39 am

Let's see if any of this wall of text is salvageable.

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:Security Council of the World Assembly

Chief Marshall The Pixle Empire of the Triumvirate Union ex rel. The Region of The Erasa System, Petitioner
v.
The Region of The East Pacific, Respondent

The Erasa System’s Motion to Condemnation The East Pacific

This is not a court of law, this should be a proposal for the Security Council to condemn TEP. The Erasa System cannot condemn them so this bit is illegal.

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:Let it be known that on the twenty-fourth day of March, of the year 2020, the East Pacific Sovereign Army (hereinafter EPSA) seized control of the founderless The Erasa System, installing as the World Assembly Delegate The Dominion of Catainia and holding all executive power of the region.

Rather than "Let it be known" start off the clause with "Appalled or "Dismayed".

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:Let it be known that the EPSA, “with The Atlae Isles as trigger, Catiania, Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich and Oofery” vandalised the appearance of the region, and abandoned the region, leaving Catainia as a regional officer with the authorities of: appearance, communications, and embassies. In their vandalization, the EPSA announced and justified their seizure of the region by proclaiming “EPSA is really very cool, you know. Totally fabulous. That's why we took this region”.

This is just a description of the raid mechanics and is basically filler.

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:Four of the original member nations of the region have since returned to and regained the control of The Erasa System, instituted a constitution establishing an organised system of governance, and branded the four self-proclaimed leaders of the detestable raid “International Terrorists and Menaces to the Region”. The Triumvirate Union of the Erasa System (hereinafter Triumvirate Union) then commissioned the drafting of this motion to condemn, written by Chief Marshall The Pixle Empire on behalf of the Triumvirate Union.

You are writing a Condemnation of TEP, not patting yourselves on the back. This section is completely irrelevant.

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:With the completion of the reclamation and securement of the governing body of The Erasa System, the Triumvirate Union of the Erasa System moves to file an international condemnation against the fifth and latest of the region’s invaders, The East Pacific.

Why not Condemn the other raiders of your region?

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:The Triumvirate Union moves to condemn The East Pacific for their heinous crimes against the world, the crime in question being the raid and temporary seizure of power of The Erasa System, one of many raids performed by the regional military.

The Triumvirate Union cannot condemn anyone, only the SC can. This section is, therefore, illegal

Arlii Zaldreya riy Embar wrote:The Triumvirate Union calls out for the international community—the World Assembly—to reprimandLet it be known that on the twenty-fourth day of March, of the year 2020, the East Pacific Sovereign Army (hereinafter EPSA) seized control of the founderless The Erasa System by means of official condemnation. The Triumvirate Union hopes that—in the condemnation of The East Pacific—the international community can move closer to ending the reprehensible practice of raiding throughout the world, and give a greater assurance of safety and international protection to the small, founderless, and helpless regions of the world.

The motion hereby condemns The East Pacific.

This section is just saying the same thing in two different ways.

If you boil it down, remove all the illegal stuff and the fluff and the filler, you're left with:
The Security Council,

Let it be known that on the twenty-fourth day of March, of the year 2020, the East Pacific Sovereign Army (hereinafter EPSA) seized control of the founderless The Erasa System,

The Security Council hereby Condemns The East Pacific

So is there anything that can be saved? Short answer is no. You need to go back to basics, remove the illegalities and do some research on TEP and the EPSA and come back with some better reasons for Condemning them. As it stands this draft has zero chance of passing even if it were legal.

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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:then have a read of the rules so you can make it legal.


I have read the rules, and none say anything in regards to the format in which I may write my proposal. Should this be how the SC operates, then the SC is a corrupt and broken system. To be declared illegal without any actual rule violation is an inexcusable suppression of my right as a member nation to raise the concerns I may have. I would say that to declare this proposal illegal is a complete abuse of authority over my proposal; there is no rule violation present, and as such there is no illegality in it.

Never said anything about the format being illegal. There are plenty of illegalities though which I have pointed out above. Don't think you read the rules closely enough.

And the format you had while not illegal, is pretty awful. Read other Condemnations to get an idea of how it should be formatted.
Last edited by Bhang Bhang Duc on Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:43 am

I completely agree. TEP is ebil and must be destroyed.

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Postby Xoriet » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:33 am

The last RMB post was 82 days ago. Is this region even active enough to warrant notice by the World Assembly? Is one tag raid worth anyone's notice, especially when the region is now passworded?

As to the format, unless it is an address to the World Assembly body and from international perspective, the proposal remains illegal. Except I wouldn't call this a proposal, either. The WA is not a court of law. If you wish to indict TEP for...tag raiding an inactive, founderless region like many organizations/regional militaries do...then take your legal format and convict them in your own region.
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Postby Boda » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:36 am

Another native of a another raided region. *sigh*
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Postby Bormiar » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:52 am

The Pixle Empire wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Rule 4 - not in the perspective of the world assembly.


So what you are saying is that the World Assembly is completely incapable of accepting varying levels of professional presentation? If I so choose to write my proposal is a format other than what all others blindly use--without question--you say I am wrong? Even if it breaks no actual rules? I see no rule regarding the proposal's format; perhaps one should be written if the moderators care so deeply about it. All subsections of the fourth rule pertain only to the content of the proposal; not its format.


First, slow down. There's no reason to break out a series of ill-informed, misguided rhetoric in order to justify your format. Your format reads more like an indictment than a resolution. Different mediums use different writing styles. For example, a news article would use colloquialisms; an essay would not. This is basic.

However, you're correct to say that writing in a different format is not illegal. The only example I can think of a different format passing is in commend Haiku, but commend Yelda did fine. Your proposal probably won't be marked as illegal based on the format.

The illegal part of your proposal is that The Erasa System is petitioning the Security Council to condemn TEP. Proposals are written as the Security Council condemning, commending, liberating, or repealing a target, not someone or something asking the Security Council to commend, condemn, liberate, or repeal a target. Hence Rule 4d "your proposal must be written from the perspective of the World Assembly". Your proposal is written in the perspective of The Pixle Empire and The Erasa System, not the World Assembly.

Don't take any changes required personally.

The Pixle Empire wrote: If the moderators are to claim that a certain format violates a content-related rule, where does it stop? What else violates such a rule? The author's ethnicity? The nation's political alignments? I vehemently object to any insinuation that my proposal is illegal due to a disagreement that the majority holds against me when I am in no violation of any actual rule.


The moderators may can make whatever rules they want so long as the site owner doesn't stop them, but this site has existed for almost 18 years and the Security Council has existed for over a decade, and they haven't made any rule discriminating against any ethnicity or political alignment yet. In fact, the site moderators allow the practice of in-character fascism, which is almost certainly against the opinion of the majority. This recent thread is almost entirely a large group of players criticizing a moderator decision which has not been reversed. You have no weight behind a claim that moderators will enact racist policy without any examples.

Furthermore, there is no "format rule", so the foundation of your slippery slope doesn't hold up. You have nothing to be paranoid about.

The Pixle Empire wrote:Dare I say that this is actually The East Pacific's grasp on the affairs of the World Assembly? Dare I say that this is corruption irreversibly rooted in the site itself? I do dare to say these things.

chuckles Neither the East Pacific, nor the site moderators, nor I have any reason to fear this proposal. The East Pacific also does not any grasp on the Security Council's rules, the moderators' interpretations, or my interpretations. If only you knew how ridiculous you sounded, you wouldn't have said it in such a pompous manner.




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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:27 pm

Umm not sure if this draft would even pass in terms of legality. Perhaps try again and start over?
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