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[draft] Condemn The Great Imperator Jeffrey

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[draft] Condemn The Great Imperator Jeffrey

Postby Voopmont » Sat May 23, 2020 5:54 pm

Tryna get an SC resolution passed and figured I had to post it on the forum for feedback, so criticize away! First time trying this seriously so hopefully it's decent. This is an OOC thread.

The Security Council;

Acknowledging The Great Imperator Jeffrey, known as the Jeffrian Imperium, as a multiversal empire;

Disgusted at their conquest of countless universes, estimated in the quintillions, for the sole purpose of feeding the war machine which will only continue to enslave, torture, and exterminate the conquered civilians;

Appalled at the Jeffrian Imperium's utter lack of personal freedoms and privacy due to their near omnipresent surveillance systems;

Noting that dissidents are often tortured and forced to admit to crimes they did not commit;

Enraged at the extreme racism, bigotry and xenophobia radiated from the nation, leading to atrocities such as;

  • The outlawing and execution of all LGBT+ individuals;
  • The enslavement and maltreatment of nonhuman populations, providing the bare minimum or less for survival;
  • The execution of those who even sympathize with the nation's enemies;

Sadly Noting that the nation's slave-based economy is established on the control and oppression of their people to feed the ever-growing war machine,

Frightened that their aggressive imperialism has been left unchecked for over 16 trillion years, claiming vigintillions of innocent lives;

Hereby condemns The Great Imperator Jeffrey
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Postby Sagami » Sat May 23, 2020 5:57 pm

Voopmont wrote:Tryna get an SC resolution passed and figured I had to post it on the forum for feedback, so criticize away! First time trying this seriously so hopefully it's decent. This is an OOC thread.

The Security Council,

Acknowledging The Great Imperator Jeffrey, known as the Jeffrian Imperium, as a multiversal empire,

Disgusted at their unprovoked conquest of quintillions of universes, enslavement of their populations and complete disregard for civilian casualties,

Appalled at the Jeffrian Imperium's utter lack of personal freedoms and privacy due to their near omnipresent surveillance systems,

Noting that dissidents are often tortured and forced to admit to crimes they did not commit,

Enraged at the extreme racism, bigotry and xenophobia radiated from the nation, leading to atrocities such as;

  • The outlawing and execution of all LGBT+ individuals,
  • Enslavement and maltreatment of nonhuman populations, providing the bare minimum or less for survival,
  • Execution of those who even sympathize with the nation's enemies,

Further noting that the nation's ultra capitalist economy is centered around the control and oppression of their people to feed the ever growing war machine,

Frightened that their aggressive imperialism has been left unchecked for over 16 trillion years, claiming vigintillions of innocent lives,

Hereby condemns The Great Imperator Jeffrey



Against. The Emperor Protects.

Also, is simply being edgy grounds for Condemnation now?

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Postby -Astoria » Sat May 23, 2020 6:00 pm

The outlawing and execution of all LGBT+ individuals,
Enslavement and maltreatment of nonhuman populations, providing the bare minimum or less for survival,
Execution of those who even sympathize with the nation's enemies,


Why not continually adding "the" to the start of your points; for consistency's sake?

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Postby Voopmont » Sat May 23, 2020 6:15 pm

-Astoria wrote:
The outlawing and execution of all LGBT+ individuals,
Enslavement and maltreatment of nonhuman populations, providing the bare minimum or less for survival,
Execution of those who even sympathize with the nation's enemies,


Why not continually adding "the" to the start of your points; for consistency's sake?

good point, I'll add that
Sagami wrote:Against. The Emperor Protects.

Also, is simply being edgy grounds for Condemnation now?

"edgy", from an IC perspective I'd certainly want to condemn a xenophobic multiversal empire with no regard for life
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Postby The Rouge Christmas State » Sat May 23, 2020 9:09 pm

Although the target nation seems like quite the place. I don't think that they're deserving of a condemnation at this point. Until I read this proposal I had never heard of them. So, they may be too much of a localized menace to garner international condemnation. Don't let this deter you from trying and participating in authorship in the WA in the future. Overall it is written fairly well but at this point I wouldn't support it.
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Postby Attancia » Sun May 24, 2020 1:03 am

Voopmont wrote:Disgusted at their unprovoked conquest of quintillions of universes, enslavement of their populations and complete disregard for civilian casualties,

Unprovoked makes it seem a bit tame compared to what Jeffrey has done. I'd reword it as:
Disgusted at their conquest of quintillions of universes for the sole purpose of feeding the war machine which will only continue to enslave, torture, and exterminate the conquered civilians;


Voopmont wrote:Further noting that the nation's ultra capitalist economy is centered around the control and oppression of their people to feed the ever growing war machine,

I know it might seem biased because I'm a Conservative, but I wouldn't describe Jeffrey as "Ultra-capitalist". I'd say it's more fascist, as it aligns with how Nazi Germany worked: The Business owners had their own businesses, and they controlled wages and what they produced, BUT the government controlled how much they had to produced and what they produced it for. Civilian factories were converted to military use and placed under military administration. Consequently, I'd reword it to:
Sadly Noting that the nation's Fascist-like economy is established on the control and oppression of their people to feed the ever-growing war machine,

Hope I could help.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun May 24, 2020 1:49 am

The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Although the target nation seems like quite the place. I don't think that they're deserving of a condemnation at this point. Until I read this proposal I had never heard of them. So, they may be too much of a localized menace to garner international condemnation. Don't let this deter you from trying and participating in authorship in the WA in the future. Overall it is written fairly well but at this point I wouldn't support it.

I’m in full agreement with this. I don’t think the nominee is deserving of a Condemnation, they’re pretty much a unknown as far as the wider community is concerned.

However, your draft is a good attempt, nicely presented without any illegalities as far as I can see. No support from me though.
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Postby Voopmont » Sun May 24, 2020 7:08 am

Thanks for the suggestions and voter insight! I'm making it clear here though that I will pursue it since this has been a very fun first experience, although it's still completely open to criticism :D

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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Sun May 24, 2020 8:46 am

As the target of this proposal, I give it my full support.
The Imperium is ruled by God-Imperator Jeffrey the Conqueror of Universes, Rightful Ruler of All, and Supreme Leader for All Eternity. The God-Imperator has control over a significant portion of the multiverse. Everyone is oppressed.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun May 24, 2020 9:20 am

The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:As the target of this proposal, I give it my full support.

The convention within the SC, which you may not know, is that nominees are not supposed to comment on their threads.
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Postby The Great Imperator Jeffrey » Sun May 24, 2020 10:27 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:As the target of this proposal, I give it my full support.

The convention within the SC, which you may not know, is that nominees are not supposed to comment on their threads.

Oh sorry
The Imperium is ruled by God-Imperator Jeffrey the Conqueror of Universes, Rightful Ruler of All, and Supreme Leader for All Eternity. The God-Imperator has control over a significant portion of the multiverse. Everyone is oppressed.
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Postby Wrapper » Sun May 24, 2020 10:58 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
The Great Imperator Jeffrey wrote:As the target of this proposal, I give it my full support.

The convention within the SC, which you may not know, is that nominees are not supposed to comment on their threads.

A convention that, I've always held, serves no purpose other than to foster a fake sense of humility. Members of regions that are targets of commendations/condemnations/liberations (particularly natives of liberation targets) usually participate in the discussion, why not individual nations when they are targets? Perhaps it would improve the quality of some C&Cs if the target pointed out misinformation, or verified their participation in government/raids/RPs/etc. Even from an IC sense, do you really think that a nation that was about to be condemned would hold silent throughout the process? Oh, hell no.

Anyway, Voopmont, this is a fine first attempt (even spelled "Hereby" right), though I agree the target is not really worthy. One critique is the "quintillions of universes" thing. Is this to be taken literally, or is it the eptiome of hyperbole? If the former, I'd find it hard to believe. How does one conquer even a single universe, without anyone knowing who it is?

In any case, nice effort.

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Postby Voopmont » Sun May 24, 2020 2:21 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The convention within the SC, which you may not know, is that nominees are not supposed to comment on their threads.

A convention that, I've always held, serves no purpose other than to foster a fake sense of humility. Members of regions that are targets of commendations/condemnations/liberations (particularly natives of liberation targets) usually participate in the discussion, why not individual nations when they are targets? Perhaps it would improve the quality of some C&Cs if the target pointed out misinformation, or verified their participation in government/raids/RPs/etc. Even from an IC sense, do you really think that a nation that was about to be condemned would hold silent throughout the process? Oh, hell no.

Anyway, Voopmont, this is a fine first attempt (even spelled "Hereby" right), though I agree the target is not really worthy. One critique is the "quintillions of universes" thing. Is this to be taken literally, or is it the eptiome of hyperbole? If the former, I'd find it hard to believe. How does one conquer even a single universe, without anyone knowing who it is?

In any case, nice effort.

Thanks, and yes, it is to be taken literally. The rp can get a little wacky with the scaling. I'll work on wording that makes it sound more literal so it's clear to everyone.

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Postby Voopmont » Sun May 24, 2020 6:47 pm

Voopmont wrote:Disgusted at their conquest of quintillions of universes for the sole purpose of feeding the war machine which will only continue to enslave, torture, and exterminate the conquered civilians;

I've reworded it to this to make it clearer that the numbers are literal;
Disgusted at their conquest of countless universes, estimated in the quintillions, for the sole purpose of feeding the war machine which will only continue to enslave, torture, and exterminate the conquered civilians;

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Postby Voopmont » Thu May 28, 2020 6:33 pm

Update: this will be submitted on Saturday if the thread stays dead

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Postby Atheris » Thu May 28, 2020 6:36 pm

I feel that "fascist-like economy" should be changed to "slave-dependent economy".

Don't capitalize "enslavement" and "execution" after enraged.

Besides that, I like it.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu May 28, 2020 8:51 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
The Rouge Christmas State wrote:Although the target nation seems like quite the place. I don't think that they're deserving of a condemnation at this point. Until I read this proposal I had never heard of them. So, they may be too much of a localized menace to garner international condemnation. Don't let this deter you from trying and participating in authorship in the WA in the future. Overall it is written fairly well but at this point I wouldn't support it.

I’m in full agreement with this. I don’t think the nominee is deserving of a Condemnation, they’re pretty much a unknown as far as the wider community is concerned.

However, your draft is a good attempt, nicely presented without any illegalities as far as I can see. No support from me though.

I agree with The Rouge Christmas State and Bhang Bhang Duc here, against for the reasons above.
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Postby Voopmont » Sat May 30, 2020 8:51 am

Atheris wrote:I feel that "fascist-like economy" should be changed to "slave-dependent economy".

Don't capitalize "enslavement" and "execution" after enraged.

Besides that, I like it.

Darn phone autocomplete capitalizes everything! Fixed, thanks.


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