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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:28 am

I feel like TRR does not count as numerous other regions.
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Postby Bormiar » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:01 am

What TRR newspaper existed in 2016?

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Postby Marxist Germany » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:40 am

Honeydewistania wrote:I feel like TRR does not count as numerous other regions.

OOC: Initially, I included Right to Life and Westphalia, but I was told to remove them due to problematic association. I'll edit the clause appropriately.


Bormiar wrote:What TRR newspaper existed in 2016?

I found these in the old tapatalk forum, but it does seem that this was only during 2015, I will correct as such.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_rr_and_rra/the-rejected-times-issue-xxix-t8338.html
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/the_rr_and_rra/reviving-trr-media-corp-t5139.html
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Postby Tinfect » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:48 am

I will break my general policy of not voting on SC resolutions to oppose this. CD is not remotely worthy of a commendation.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:49 pm

Tinfect wrote:I will break my general policy of not voting on SC resolutions to oppose this. CD is not remotely worthy of a commendation.

OOC: Sad to hear that.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:59 am

OOC: Finally got my WA sorted out, this will be submitted tomorrow.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:31 am

Marxist Germany wrote:Recognising that [nation=noflag]Christian Democrats[/nation] is the current and longest-serving delegate of Catholic, with 1260 consecutive days and over 2200 total days in that office; furthermore, during its reign as delegate, the region experienced its most thriving and active era, reaching an all-time high membership record of 123 nations, and has enjoyed a long period of stability and security during this era, Christian Democrats also served as the High Councillor of the region from 2012 to 2013,

I don't mean to nitpick, but if you have a nation that's been delegate of a region for six years, it sort of follows that said nation would have seen "its most thriving and active era," by the numbers, right? If CD began as delegate in 2014 and between then and 2018 Catholic consistently had between 35 and 50 nations, you could presumably argue that CD had also probably seen the most inactive and stagnant time in its current iteration.

I understand that the point of the clauses is to say "Look! Big number!" I'm just not convinced by the way it does so. There's no argument here about why it was "thriving and active" or what CD's role in bringing that about was, beyond just being present while it happened.

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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:52 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Recognising that [nation=noflag]Christian Democrats[/nation] is the current and longest-serving delegate of Catholic, with 1260 consecutive days and over 2200 total days in that office; furthermore, during its reign as delegate, the region experienced its most thriving and active era, reaching an all-time high membership record of 123 nations, and has enjoyed a long period of stability and security during this era, Christian Democrats also served as the High Councillor of the region from 2012 to 2013,

I don't mean to nitpick, but if you have a nation that's been delegate of a region for six years, it sort of follows that said nation would have seen "its most thriving and active era," by the numbers, right? If CD began as delegate in 2014 and between then and 2018 Catholic consistently had between 35 and 50 nations, you could presumably argue that CD had also probably seen the most inactive and stagnant time in its current iteration.

I understand that the point of the clauses is to say "Look! Big number!" I'm just not convinced by the way it does so. There's no argument here about why it was "thriving and active" or what CD's role in bringing that about was, beyond just being present while it happened.

OOC: I'll remove the "most thriving" section.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:47 am

OOC: Submitted.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:35 pm

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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:15 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Pass.

Same
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:06 am

I’m going to join with a number of the other posters here and say no to this one.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:11 am

It’s also worth pointing out that CD has joined the band of non complying nations as per UM’s dispatch, making them in violation of World Assembly law.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:21 am

Against, because CD is a non-compliant WA state and even joined a non-compliant alliance. That alone should be a disqualifying metric.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 am

Picairn wrote:Against, because CD is a non-compliant WA state and even joined a non-compliant alliance. That alone should be a disqualifying metric.

To be fair, they hadn’t advocated for this before Access to Abortion was passed.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:49 am

Honeydewistania wrote:To be fair, they hadn’t advocated for this before Access to Abortion was passed.

Sure, but still, non-compliance is an automatic disqualifier for me. I argued against Access to Abortion very passionately, but in the end chose to comply anyway after seeing how democracy has made its final voice. You won't see me throwing a fit and join a non-compliant alliance while still staying in the WA and collecting endorsements. The WA has its perks and obligations, and I will not shrink away from responsibility while enjoying its benefits.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:01 am

Picairn wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:To be fair, they hadn’t advocated for this before Access to Abortion was passed.

Sure, but still, non-compliance is an automatic disqualifier for me. I argued against Access to Abortion very passionately, but in the end chose to comply anyway after seeing how democracy has made its final voice. You won't see me throwing a fit and join a non-compliant alliance while still staying in the WA and collecting endorsements. The WA has its perks and obligations, and I will not shrink away from responsibility while enjoying its benefits.

Indeed, my friend.
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Postby Dreadton » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:10 am

Against this, Non-Complaint nations should not be awarded with a Commend.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:13 am

Dreadton wrote:Against this, Non-Complaint nations should not be awarded with a Commend.

You mean non-compliant? But it would definitely be better if they are also non-complaint. :)
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difficulties of posting from a mobile
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Dreadton wrote:difficulties of posting from a mobile

I call that Fat Thumb Syndrome. :lol:
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Postby Foril » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:08 pm

Without a doubt against. CD is not worthy of this at all.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:32 pm

Well it's in queue. Looking at the list of approvals, it looks pretty obvious that this isn't going to pass.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:34 pm

Wayneactia wrote:Well it's in queue. Looking at the list of approvals, it looks pretty obvious that this isn't going to pass.

Looks like CD approved their own commend, lol
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