[DRAFT] Repeal: “Condemn The Black Hawks”

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Note that this proposal targets SC#217, while my previous draft on a very similar topic targetted SC#52. I fully intend to submit both in due time. Suggestions, comments, feedback all welcome

The Security Council,

Recognising that this condemnation was originally passed with the intention of demonstrating the nature and severity of The Black Hawks' raiding operations to NationStates as a whole;

Noting, however, that the region has failed to successfully conduct any major operations as of late;

Disputing the claim that The Black Hawks have demonstrated destructive actions; insisting their recent actions have only served to demonstrate the true, harmless nature of the region;

Observing that most of the region's few recent occupations have been quasi-raids, resulting in the targeted region eventually being handed back into the control of natives;

Acknowleging The Black Hawks' recent efforts in promoting LGBT rights; believing that a region promoting these positive values does not deserve to be condemned by this body;

Concerned that SC#217 could potentially mislead nations into percieving The Black Hawks as a threat to interregional peace and goodwill;

Hereby repeals SC#217: “Condemn The Black Hawks”.

[Lord Dominator]

Lol

[Tinhampton]

Support all repeals of SC#52, oppose all repeals of SC#217 (unless they're well done, this isn't).

[Aurum Raider]

Noting, however, that the region has failed to successfully conduct any major operations as of late;

You've heard of Asia, right? Surely you weren't posting in the Liberate Asia thread just because you saw some big names, right?

Observing that most of the region's few recent occupations have been quasi-raids, resulting in the targeted region eventually being handed back into the control of natives;

The region not being demolished doesn't make it a quasi-raid. I welcome you to try run some 'real raids' of your own, but I think we both know how that will end.

Concerned that SC#217 could potentially mislead nations into perceiving The Black Hawks as a threat to interregional peace and goodwill;

The one and only reason you can say this is because you know better than to try do R/D, and you have a founder.

[The Stalker]

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Up to your usual low and lazy standard of drafts.

[Saint Nicholas and the Hussars]

Somebody could make a commendation of the bruh brawks for pandering to a specific political Identity of which they have interacted with its metaphorical organs

[WayNeacTia]

Up to your usual low and lazy standard of drafts.

Anything for him to get the attention. Perhaps people should just stop replying to him.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Noting, however, that the region has failed to successfully conduct any major operations as of late;

You've heard of Asia, right? Surely you weren't posting in the Liberate Asia thread just because you saw some big names, right?

Keyword: "successfully". You've non stop claimed you have zero intention of successfully completing the raid of Asia.

Observing that most of the region's few recent occupations have been quasi-raids, resulting in the targeted region eventually being handed back into the control of natives;

The region not being demolished doesn't make it a quasi-raid. I welcome you to try run some 'real raids' of your own, but I think we both know how that will end.

So what's the point of these raids then? To put fear into regions by giving them straight back to natives?

Concerned that SC#217 could potentially mislead nations into perceiving The Black Hawks as a threat to interregional peace and goodwill;

The one and only reason you can say this is because you know better than to try do R/D, and you have a founder.

Honestly if manage to get TBH to start defending against any future CCD raids I'd consider that a win

Up to your usual low and lazy standard of drafts.

Anything for him to get the attention. Perhaps people should just stop replying to him.

Regardless of what you think if my intentions (you're wrong btw), NSGP has an amazing track record of not replying to CCD threads :>

[Xoriet]

Disputing the claim that The Black Hawks have demonstrated destructive actions; insisting their recent actions have only served to demonstrate the true, harmless nature of the region

Hoo boy. Tell that to Westphalia. Not to mention, if TBH refounds all of the old regions, they will be eliminating some of the bigger, older targets. There are practical reasons as to why they wouldn't want to refound everything they raid. There are only so many good founderless targets to go around.

[Jakker]

If you want to be silly and make up stuff that TBH is not good at raiding, that is whatever. But why you gotta hate on LGBTIA+ as well?

[Twobagger]

Note that this proposal targets SC#217, while my previous draft on a very similar topic targetted SC#52. I fully intend to submit both in due time. Suggestions, comments, feedback all welcome

I would say it's an interesting draft, but it's just more of the same from you.

I eagerly await your submission.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Disputing the claim that The Black Hawks have demonstrated destructive actions; insisting their recent actions have only served to demonstrate the true, harmless nature of the region

Hoo boy. Tell that to Westphalia. Not to mention, if TBH refounds all of the old regions, they will be eliminating some of the bigger, older targets. There are practical reasons as to why they wouldn't want to refound everything they raid. There are only so many good founderless targets to go around.

You mean the Westphalia that was raided a year ago now? What has TBH done since?

If you want to be silly and make up stuff that TBH is not good at raiding, that is whatever. But why you gotta hate on LGBTIA+ as well?

?????

I don't hate anything for being LGBT?

I stated that promoting LGBT awareness is a positive action, and a region that spreads positive values like these doesn't deserve to be shunned by the international community like with this condemn.

Honestly, if I can get both condemns repealed, I'd probably try and pass a commend TBH for their more positive actions recently - you definitely deserve some recognition. I'd probably suggest changing the flag before this goes through though, the hawk might be a bit threatening - maybe like a cute little canary would suit better?

[Sodoran Alesia]

Anything for him to get the attention. Perhaps people should just stop replying to him.

Regardless of what you think if my intentions (you're wrong btw), NSGP has an amazing track record of not replying to CCD threads :>

lol and why do you think that is?

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Regardless of what you think if my intentions (you're wrong btw), NSGP has an amazing track record of not replying to CCD threads :>

lol and why do you think that is?

Not really relevant, but okay, I'll answer: why do I think NSGP can't stay away from CCD threads? We're irresistable.

[Mallorea and Riva]

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I don't hate anything for being LGBT?

I stated that promoting LGBT awareness is a positive action, and a region that spreads positive values like these doesn't deserve to be shunned by the international community like with this condemn.

Honestly, if I can get both condemns repealed, I'd probably try and pass a commend TBH for their more positive actions recently - you definitely deserve some recognition. I'd probably suggest changing the flag before this goes through though, the hawk might be a bit threatening - maybe like a cute little canary would suit better?

Everything in your draft is meant to be insulting to TBH. Every single line. It's obvious to every observer that you think saying that "TBH supports LGBT rights" is meant to be another funny joke/dig at TBH which should be used to justify stripping the region of its well-earned condemnation. It's not terribly surprising given your infatuation with the fascist element of NS, but trying to use the SC to poke fun at such communities is nevertheless repulsive.

This particular resolution draft stems, of course, from the brutal reception you received in the "Liberate Asia" thread from both TBH and 10KI. Unable to work with 10KI to liberate the region from TBH's control since they won't work with fash, you tried to give TBH advice on how to handle the occupation. As if anyone in TBH's command structure requires an education on the topic. TBH spurned you, and now you've run here.

Your region's antics have led to the destruction of various embassy regions, while CCD sits by, utterly helpless to do anything other than try to stir the pot with resolutions like these. Your region never ceases to disappoint, and to think that CCD is doing anything new, clever, or worthy of remembrance in the long term is laughable and misguided.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Everything in your draft is meant to be insulting to TBH. Every single line. It's obvious to every observer that you think saying that "TBH supports LGBT rights" is meant to be another funny joke/dig at TBH which should be used to justify stripping the region of its well-earned condemnation. It's not terribly surprising given your infatuation with the fascist element of NS, but trying to use the SC to poke fun at such communities is nevertheless repulsive.

I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I would never condemn an LGBT region for being LGBT. I'm not a fascist and am not "infatuated with the fascist element of NS" by any stretch of the imagination.

Bringing up TBH's promotion of LGBT rights is for exactly the reason it says so in the draft - it's a positive influence on NationStates and as a result they don't deserve to be shunned by the World Assembly.

This particular resolution draft stems, of course, from the brutal reception you received in the "Liberate Asia" thread from both TBH and 10KI. Unable to work with 10KI to liberate the region from TBH's control since they won't work with fash, you tried to give TBH advice on how to handle the occupation. As if anyone in TBH's command structure requires an education on the topic. TBH spurned you, and now you've run here.

You know, I think a big problem with TBH at the moment is that the organisation in its current state has no ambition. There's simply no desire to actually go after regions and make a real impact anymore, you're content with resting on your laurels from years past.

That's not the reason I've submitted this draft, although I'm not particuarly interested in feedback from TBH members so you can believe whatever you like.

Your region's antics have led to the destruction of various embassy regions, while CCD sits by, utterly helpless to do anything other than try to stir the pot with resolutions like these. Your region never ceases to disappoint, and to think that CCD is doing anything new, clever, or worthy of remembrance in the long term is laughable and misguided.

Destruction of various embassy regions? Hahaha that's a good one.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Everything in your draft is meant to be insulting to TBH. Every single line. It's obvious to every observer that you think saying that "TBH supports LGBT rights" is meant to be another funny joke/dig at TBH which should be used to justify stripping the region of its well-earned condemnation. It's not terribly surprising given your infatuation with the fascist element of NS, but trying to use the SC to poke fun at such communities is nevertheless repulsive.

I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I would never condemn an LGBT region for being LGBT. I'm not a fascist and am not "infatuated with the fascist element of NS" by any stretch of the imagination.

Bringing up TBH's promotion of LGBT rights is for exactly the reason it says so in the draft - it's a positive influence on NationStates and as a result they don't deserve to be shunned by the World Assembly.

For those playing along at home there are two reasons why Shrew's statement above is nonsense:
1) I didn't say he was fascist, I said he had an infatuation with the fascist element of NS. This is of course evidenced by his home region, CCD, a region which held the fascist tag until the founder got cold feet about it and removed it to hide their affiliation.

2) Something tells me that in a resolution designed to make fun of TBH, you weren't looking to praise TBH for anything. Indeed, as you know (I hope you realize this, anyways) TBH's condemnation is a badge of pride. Everyone in gameplay gets that.

This particular resolution draft stems, of course, from the brutal reception you received in the "Liberate Asia" thread from both TBH and 10KI. Unable to work with 10KI to liberate the region from TBH's control since they won't work with fash, you tried to give TBH advice on how to handle the occupation. As if anyone in TBH's command structure requires an education on the topic. TBH spurned you, and now you've run here.

You know, I think a big problem with TBH at the moment is that the organisation in its current state has no ambition. There's simply no desire to actually go after regions and make a real impact anymore, you're content with resting on your laurels from years past.

That's not the reason I've submitted this draft, although I'm not particuarly interested in feedback from TBH members so you can believe whatever you like.

Everyone in here is reading this, trying to understand how anyone who expects to have their region taken seriously could possibly hold such an opinion. Those same people are then quietly shaking their heads before tabbing to a different thread.

Your region's antics have led to the destruction of various embassy regions, while CCD sits by, utterly helpless to do anything other than try to stir the pot with resolutions like these. Your region never ceases to disappoint, and to think that CCD is doing anything new, clever, or worthy of remembrance in the long term is laughable and misguided.

Destruction of various embassy regions? Hahaha that's a good one.

... is anyone going to tell him? Should I?

Alright, I'll tell you: the regions you have embassies with have been repeatedly targeted for tagging and outright destruction by those who won't tolerate the fascist element of gameplay. The fact that you don't know that is a testament to CCD's overall state, I suppose.

RIP in peace to the following regions, which CCD was unaware were wiped out.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=republican_army
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tatorships
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ita ... s_defensus
https://www.nationstates.net/region=imp ... of_nations

Just a question for you, when this draft gets absolutely bombed out of existence (either at the quorum stage, or at vote), is it going to be because there is a conspiracy of WA Elites? Or is it going to be because it is a particularly poorly thought out draft, being pushed for transparently petty reasons?

[ShrewLlamaLand]

I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I would never condemn an LGBT region for being LGBT. I'm not a fascist and am not "infatuated with the fascist element of NS" by any stretch of the imagination.

Bringing up TBH's promotion of LGBT rights is for exactly the reason it says so in the draft - it's a positive influence on NationStates and as a result they don't deserve to be shunned by the World Assembly.

For those playing along at home there are two reasons why Shrew's statement above is nonsense:
1) I didn't say he was fascist, I said he had an infatuation with the fascist element of NS. This is of course evidenced by his home region, CCD, a region which held the fascist tag until the founder got cold feet about it and removed it to hide their affiliation.

2) Something tells me that in a resolution designed to make fun of TBH, you weren't looking to praise TBH for anything. Indeed, as you know (I hope you realize this, anyways) TBH's condemnation is a badge of pride. Everyone in gameplay gets that.

I don't have an "infatuation with the fascist element of NS". CCD is not a fascist region, and you're wrong, I removed that tag myself. We're not fascist.

I don't have any personal ill will towards TBH, so I'll give credit where credit is due - their promotion of LGBT values is a positive element of their region and deserves praise.

You know, I think a big problem with TBH at the moment is that the organisation in its current state has no ambition. There's simply no desire to actually go after regions and make a real impact anymore, you're content with resting on your laurels from years past.

That's not the reason I've submitted this draft, although I'm not particuarly interested in feedback from TBH members so you can believe whatever you like.

Everyone in here is reading this, trying to understand how anyone who expects to have their region taken seriously could possibly hold such an opinion. Those same people are then quietly shaking their heads before tabbing to a different thread.

Okay, let me reword that, I'm not interested in a continuation of the endless hate that seems to come from TBH lately. If TBH members have geniune feedback they're more then welcome to share it.

Destruction of various embassy regions? Hahaha that's a good one.

... is anyone going to tell him? Should I?

Alright, I'll tell you: the regions you have embassies with have been repeatedly targeted for tagging and outright destruction by those who won't tolerate the fascist element of gameplay. The fact that you don't know that is a testament to CCD's overall state, I suppose.

RIP in peace to the following regions, which CCD was unaware were wiped out.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=republican_army
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tatorships
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ita ... s_defensus
https://www.nationstates.net/region=imp ... of_nations

Just a question for you, when this draft gets absolutely bombed out of existence (either at the quorum stage, or at vote), is it going to be because there is a conspiracy of WA Elites? Or is it going to be because it is a particularly poorly thought out draft, being pushed for transparently petty reasons?

Oh, don't worry, I know about those raids
None of those regions constitute major raids, they were all tiny regions most without even a WA Delegate. Further to that, strangely none of those regions were refounded by TBH, they were all NPA operations... hmm...

Whether or not this proposal makes it to vote will depend if TBH has the willpower or resources left to quorum raid I guess. Quorum itself won't be an issue. There's no "conspiracy" with the WA Elite, the WA Elite is very real.

If you think this proposal is pooly thought out, what would you suggest I do to improve it?

[Outer Sparta]

Uh huh. Opposed.

[Tinhampton]

There's no "conspiracy" with the WA Elite, the WA Elite is very real.

Opposed, as mentioned above. Am I a member of the WA Elite?

[The Stalker]

There's no "conspiracy" with the WA Elite, the WA Elite is very real.

Opposed, as mentioned above. Am I a member of the WA Elite?

Yea i'm curious too can we get a list of the WA elite made?

[ShrewLlamaLand]

There's no "conspiracy" with the WA Elite, the WA Elite is very real.

Opposed, as mentioned above. Am I a member of the WA Elite?

Opposed, as mentioned above. Am I a member of the WA Elite?

Yea i'm curious too can we get a list of the WA elite made?

I don't really know how this is relevant to Repeal: Condemn The Black Hawks.

Again, there's no "list" of WA Elite members. You don't get a card, I think I've answered this many times.

[Tinfect]

Again, there's no "list" of WA Elite members. You don't get a card, I think I've answered this many times.

Yes you do! Mine came in the mail years ago, I'm sure I have it lying around here somewhere...

[Wallenburg]

Opposed unconditionally.

Again, there's no "list" of WA Elite members. You don't get a card, I think I've answered this many times.

Oh? But we do!

Credit to South Reinkalistan for the card format.