[Withdrawn] Liberate Asia

[Aclion]

Mud flinging aside. Why should we accept that your withdrawal was not a response to this lib?

[Daytime to Night]

No, you keep hammering Kuriko because you all enjoy ganging up on her.

The natives gave me a carte blanche to do whatever it took to protect Asia, I gave Kuri the nod to post this when it seemed necessary and she got explicit support for the proposal from a native when you asked her for it. So drop it.

Is this a Numero puppet? I've been told it's a Numero puppet

It's actually my main now, but I just use Numero on here a lot because more people know me by that name in GP

That's actually exactly what I said, but I knew Kuri had contacted them too so I left her to respond to the direct question as author.

I also said this:

How many natives have been ejected so far, and when was the last time TBH attempted to refound a region that wasn't fascist?

If natives are ejected in this region I assume you're happy for me to refer back to this and dismiss any future comments you make as part of a proven agenda of deliberate deception so that we can safely ignore your views in the future?

So, forgive me if I don't care about your comments as much as you want me to.

[Lord Dominator]

Mud flinging aside. Why should we accept that your withdrawal was not a response to this lib?

Because all other orgs (except LKE and Balder because I forgot to tell them) were told that we only planned to boot some natives, and can presumably testify to such?

Because we went about removing natives in one of the most inefficient manners (via banjections), leaving only 3 ROs with any significant influence well before the Liberation came to vote?

Because we did all this despite needing a week minimum more (still before the Liberation would've been voted on) to get enough influence to eject the most influential native?

Take your pick really

[World Assembly Nation 665]

Mud flinging aside. Why should we accept that your withdrawal was not a response to this lib?

Our highest endorsements were hitting into 96, and our weakest was around 38ish, excluding Infinity Engine's 17. Even after allies left, you'd have to pull a significant more amount of defenders than was just pulled just to put out our higher ROs/delegate.

EDIT: This being said, we had no reason to pull out because of a liberation being made.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Mud flinging aside. Why should we accept that your withdrawal was not a response to this lib?

Does it matter? You clearly think it is in response to that, in which case you get to feel better about the whole thing. Don't ask for someone to rain on your parade. I'm also not sure why the lib would prompt a withdrawal, unless you thought we were trying to refound... which would be a weird thing to think, as outlined extensively in this thread.

Is this a Numero puppet? I've been told it's a Numero puppet

It's actually my main now, but I just use Numero on here a lot because more people know me by that name in GP

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.

That's actually exactly what I said, but I knew Kuri had contacted them too so I left her to respond to the direct question as author.

I also said this:

If natives are ejected in this region I assume you're happy for me to refer back to this and dismiss any future comments you make as part of a proven agenda of deliberate deception so that we can safely ignore your views in the future?

So, forgive me if I don't care about your comments as much as you want me to.

Oh man that doesn't make any sense. In order for that to make sense, you have to then have a quote from me where I say "Yes Numero, if even a single native is ejected then you can banish me to the shadow realm for all eternity." Posting your own question and not including my answer is just strange. So let's see my answer:

If the ejections are followed by a password with the intent to refound then yes, absolutely.

Well that's tragic for the point you were trying to make with your selective quoting, since the ejections were not followed by a password, and the intent that has been explained throughout this thread was not one geared towards refounding.

[HumanSanity]

A significant number of which were were from TITO, of course.

Point being what precisely?

It's probably a point directed at others, not you, who were dropping lots of shade about how TITO/Kuriko specifically are bad in this thread. For example, Devi's smack talk about switchers, Wayne's suggestion Kuriko¹ should resign WA in XKI to join a lib jump, and Soul's suggestion that if we have 713 Delegate endos we should apparently also have a bunch of jump ready forces.

errr... not Kuriko, another alias that she does not use anymore. Really?

[Lord Dominator]

Point being what precisely?

It's probably a point directed at others, not you, who were dropping lots of shade about how TITO/Kuriko specifically are bad in this thread. For example, Devi's smack talk about switchers, Wayne's suggestion Kuriko¹ should resign WA in XKI to join a lib jump, and Soul's suggestion that if we have 713 Delegate endos we should apparently also have a bunch of jump ready forces.

errr... not Kuriko, another alias that she does not use anymore. Really?

Ah. You missed the ribbing about diffuculty in getting 20+ jumpers then

[HumanSanity]

Ah. You missed the ribbing about diffuculty in getting 20+ jumpers then

Heaven forbid someone underestimate our capabilities and then be proven wrong

[Daytime to Night]

Well that's tragic for the point you were trying to make with your selective quoting, since the ejections were not followed by a password, and the intent that has been explained throughout this thread was not one geared towards refounding.

And yet all of the little duckies were lining up perfectly in a row for Free HK to password the region and just 'happened' to not withdraw or resign WA when they told everyone else to



Sorry that we didn't let your operation succeed so that we could fulfil your criteria for ignoring you, but we fulfilled mine so I'll be taking your opinion with the requisite vault of salt regardless

[Tinhampton]

And as it turns out, the Black Hawks really were preparing to leave before this Liberation came to vote!

[Mallorea and Riva]

Well that's tragic for the point you were trying to make with your selective quoting, since the ejections were not followed by a password, and the intent that has been explained throughout this thread was not one geared towards refounding.

And yet all of the little duckies were lining up perfectly in a row for Free HK to password the region and just 'happened' to not withdraw or resign WA when they told everyone else to



Sorry that we didn't let your operation succeed so that we could fulfil your criteria for ignoring you, but we fulfilled mine so I'll be taking your opinion with the requisite vault of salt regardless

You caught us Numero. The evil plan was to burn all our influence banjecting natives rather than ejecting, so that we could withdraw the bulk of our troops, password the region... have the Liberation pass... and then... ah wait no that would have been totally pointless, and require us to just pump our nations back into the region. Conspiracy theories are fun, but they don't do well under scrutiny.

[World Assembly Nation 665]

And yet all of the little duckies were lining up perfectly in a row for Free HK to password the region and just 'happened' to not withdraw or resign WA when they told everyone else to



Sorry that we didn't let your operation succeed so that we could fulfil your criteria for ignoring you, but we fulfilled mine so I'll be taking your opinion with the requisite vault of salt regardless

You caught us Numero. The evil plan was to burn all our influence banjecting natives rather than ejecting, so that we could withdraw the bulk of our troops, password the region... have the Liberation pass... and then... ah wait no that would have been totally pointless, and require us to just pump our nations back into the region. Conspiracy theories are fun, but they don't do well under scrutiny.

I do love they skipped over my post earlier. Defenders wouldn't of had numbers in the first place by the looks of ASS, nor would we of budged anyways, even without the support of allied groups.

[Daytime to Night]

And as it turns out, the Black Hawks really were preparing to leave before this Liberation came to vote!

They needed nations out to impose a password too. The withdrawal would have been necessary either way.

password the region... have the Liberation pass... and then... ah wait no that would have been totally pointless

Which is why it was proposed. Thanks for confirming the need for the proposal for a second time Mall.

[A Bloodred Moon]

Sorry that we didn't let your operation succeed so that we could fulfil your criteria for ignoring you,

We succeeded at every goal we had set ourselves for this operation.

but we fulfilled mine

Your criteria for calling something a liberation must have dropped rather low that this cleanup is considered as such.

so I'll be taking your opinion with the requisite vault of salt regardless

There indeed seems to be a vault of salt present.

Feel free to spin this however you want. The point stands: we did what we aimed for and you were powerless to stop it.

[Mallorea and Riva]

And as it turns out, the Black Hawks really were preparing to leave before this Liberation came to vote!

They needed nations out to impose a password too. The withdrawal would have been necessary either way.

password the region... have the Liberation pass... and then... ah wait no that would have been totally pointless

Which is why it was proposed. Thanks for confirming the need for the proposal for a second time Mall.

Wut. You're saying that we were pulling out to put a password on, and that the only thing that could stop it would be putting a Liberation resolution in the queue... but there WAS a Liberation resolution in the queue... so why would we still be trying to refound?

You seem convinced that TBH intended to refound even after a Liberation proposal was put into the queue...

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Mud flinging aside. Why should we accept that your withdrawal was not a response to this lib?

The liberation proposal was too late to prevent a password being placed on the region anyway, given Kuriko refused to cooperate with other nations or regions (despite having the same goal) in order to submit a proposal themself.

Regardless, if TBH really wanted to password and/or refound Asia, they would have easily had the capability to quorum raid it out of queue.

[World Assembly Nation 665]

All in all, I think it's sad we never finished our RP in Asia. We did get a neat feather though. ^_^

[Daytime to Night]

but we fulfilled mine

Your criteria for calling something a liberation must have dropped rather low that this cleanup is considered as such.

Wasn't what I was referring to.

If you want a medal for pointlessly banjecting all those natives you're going to have to give it to yourself.

A lucky update glitch and a stupidly high pile isn't anything that gets my respect.

You seem convinced that TBH intended to refound even after a Liberation proposal was put into the queue...

So why else did Free HK not follow their own orders when they had no use for the delegacy and nothing left to spend their influence on but a password?

The extent you were all going to to fight this suggests you thought you could drag this liberation proposal through the mud enough to try it. You'd have to be incredibly bored to have dragged this out for seven pages for any other reason.

[World Assembly Nation 665]

Your criteria for calling something a liberation must have dropped rather low that this cleanup is considered as such.

Wasn't what I was referring to.

If you want a medal for pointlessly banjecting all those natives you're going to have to give it to yourself.

A lucky update glitch and a stupidly high pile isn't anything that gets my respect.

You seem convinced that TBH intended to refound even after a Liberation proposal was put into the queue...

So why else did Free HK not follow their own orders when they had no use for the delegacy and nothing left to spend their influence on but a password?

The extent you were all going to to fight this suggests you thought you could drag this liberation proposal through the mud enough to try it. You'd have to be incredibly bored to have dragged this out for seven pages for any other reason.

No no no. We got a feather, not a medal.

[Lord Dominator]

Ah. You missed the ribbing about diffuculty in getting 20+ jumpers then

Heaven forbid someone underestimate our capabilities and then be proven wrong

I'm fine with defender underestimating themselves, personally.

[Daytime to Night]

No no no. We got a feather, not a medal.

But if you're all already Hawks you've already got feathers. That is like giving your soldiers a piece of someone elses dead skin and convincing them them they should be happy about it.

[World Assembly Nation 665]

No no no. We got a feather, not a medal.

But if you're all already Hawks you've already got feathers. That is like giving your soldiers a piece of someone elses dead skin and convincing them them they should be happy about it.

Hmmm. A grim analogy that doesn't quite work. Birds do have to grow their feathers, y'know. Older Hawks have more feathers, newer Hawks still have to grow them in.

[A Bloodred Moon]

A lucky update glitch and a stupidly high pile isn't anything that gets my respect.

That's fine, I don't think anyone on our side thought halfway through "yeah, but have you considered what Numero will think of us when we pile???"

So why else did Free HK not follow their own orders when they had no use for the delegacy and nothing left to spend their influence on but a password?

Not everyone immediately needs their WA. Besides, leaving your nation with a pile of influence for defenders to clean up is not uncommon.

The extent you were all going to to fight this suggests you thought you could drag this liberation proposal through the mud enough to try it. You'd have to be incredibly bored to have dragged this out for seven pages for any other reason.

Have you seen much else going on in gameplay that we should pay attention to instead?

[Zizou]

No no no. We got a feather, not a medal.

But if you're all already Hawks you've already got feathers. That is like giving your soldiers a piece of someone elses dead skin and convincing them them they should be happy about it.

Why would someone need convincing?

[Lord Dominator]

So why else did Free HK not follow their own orders when they had no use for the delegacy and nothing left to spend their influence on but a password?

Souls was not in charge of any part of this occupation, there's just a rank difficulty in having him do things (and I was fine with him sticking around to waste someone's influence).

The extent you were all going to to fight this suggests you thought you could drag this liberation proposal through the mud enough to try it. You'd have to be incredibly bored to have dragged this out for seven pages for any other reason.

And yet you're here as well.

Of course, I'm still just here to fight the whole thing were you say we only left because of this proposal, despite the evidence to the contrary.