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Postby Zizou » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:48 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:You are promoting this sort of behavior with the intent of denying access to the site. That's literally DDoSing.

As a matter of fact I'm not. I'm vehemently opposed to it.

I'm saying that Drew isn't guilty of DDoS, and the raiders and defenders at least claim to be able to exploit updates non-destructively.

Building on this, and I'm addressing Kuriko here as well, I'm not sure how Drew was supposed to forsee that his video was going to totally debilitate NS like that. It's not like he had some sort of insider knowledge on how much the server's could take, he just wanted to showcase an interesting game he found.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:54 pm

Why does he deserve a commendation? He has done literally nothing notable in game. Besides, it's likely most of the new nations will CTE in 28 days. I can't believe anyone would seriously support this.

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Postby Zizou » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:55 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Why does he deserve a commendation? He has done literally nothing notable in game. Besides, it's likely most of the new nations will CTE in 28 days. I can't believe anyone would seriously support this.

As I pointed out earlier in the thread, he has quite possibly revolutionized the R/D game
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Postby Aurum Raider » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:56 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Why does he deserve a commendation? He has done literally nothing notable in game. Besides, it's likely most of the new nations will CTE in 28 days. I can't believe anyone would seriously support this.


Aurum Raider wrote:I've made it a draft because I predict that the effects Deruuu will have throughout the day up to the major update will be just as cataclysmic, and I also predict more videos will be forthcoming.


His immediate impact was notable. If more notable things happen, the draft will be updated.
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Postby Ojibwen » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:57 pm

Unironically, this is a good proposal. Like it or not, Drew is going to leave a lasting impact on this game.

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Postby South Reinkalistan » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:58 pm

Ojibwen wrote:Unironically, this is a good proposal. Like it or not, Drew is going to leave a lasting impact on this game.

No, he will not.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:04 pm

Zizou wrote:
Sodoran Alesia wrote:Why does he deserve a commendation? He has done literally nothing notable in game. Besides, it's likely most of the new nations will CTE in 28 days. I can't believe anyone would seriously support this.

As I pointed out earlier in the thread, he has quite possibly revolutionized the R/D game


Riiiight, all he's done is post a video and make the servers laggy. He had no idea what would happen and he basically inadvertently DDoS'd NS. Is that how low you set the bar for a commendation?

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Sodoran Alesia wrote:Why does he deserve a commendation? He has done literally nothing notable in game. Besides, it's likely most of the new nations will CTE in 28 days. I can't believe anyone would seriously support this.


Aurum Raider wrote:I've made it a draft because I predict that the effects Deruuu will have throughout the day up to the major update will be just as cataclysmic, and I also predict more videos will be forthcoming.


His immediate impact was notable. If more notable things happen, the draft will be updated.


An inadvertent DDoS is notable? He literally just started playing NS, is this how low you'll set the bar for a commendation? Has he had any presence in NS before hand in regional leadership, any notable experience in R/D, any authored resolutions in the SC or GenSec? Has he done anything notable within the NS community besides making an account and hitting record? Are we gonna hand out commendations just because someone has a lot of youtube subscribers? This is such a joke

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Postby Aurum Raider » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:05 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:An inadvertent DDoS is notable? He literally just started playing NS, is this how low you'll set the bar for a commendation? Has he had any presence in NS before hand in regional leadership, any notable experience in R/D, any authored resolutions in the SC or GenSec? Has he done anything notable within the NS community besides making an account and hitting record? Are we gonna hand out commendations just because someone has a lot of youtube subscribers? This is such a joke


To pull the curtain back a little, you may have missed
Applauding Deruuu's contribution to making This Game - a region this esteemed body recently condemned - more difficult to access,
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Postby Jakker » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:07 pm

Kuriko wrote:Absolutely unequivocally against. This player, while bringing new nations to the game in the sum of 10s of thousands, has done nothing notable. They also crashed the site because they acted without thinking and didn't warn people the servers couldn't handle a massive influx like we saw. So no, never ever.


They also highly promoted a commended nation (you) and indirectly your region (also commended) which has caused quite the influx of nations looking to also be saved and receive the good word. They are a true modern prophet!
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:09 pm

Aurum Raider wrote:
Sodoran Alesia wrote:An inadvertent DDoS is notable? He literally just started playing NS, is this how low you'll set the bar for a commendation? Has he had any presence in NS before hand in regional leadership, any notable experience in R/D, any authored resolutions in the SC or GenSec? Has he done anything notable within the NS community besides making an account and hitting record? Are we gonna hand out commendations just because someone has a lot of youtube subscribers? This is such a joke


To pull the curtain back a little, you may have missed
Applauding Deruuu's contribution to making This Game - a region this esteemed body recently condemned - more difficult to access,


There is a marked difference between a tongue-in-cheek April Fools proposal that passed and a proposal that wants to seriously commend someone for doing nothing except make a video and happen to have quite a few subscribers

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Postby Aurum Raider » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:12 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:There is a marked difference between a tongue-in-cheek April Fools proposal that passed and a proposal that wants to seriously commend someone for doing nothing except make a video and happen to have quite a few subscribers


Except every clause in this proposal hinges on a tongue-and-cheek joke that making 'This Game'/NationStates difficult to access/not work properly is a good thing.

This is literally a commendation with the worlds
inconvenienced the world as a whole,

in it.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:14 pm

Aurum Raider wrote:
Sodoran Alesia wrote:There is a marked difference between a tongue-in-cheek April Fools proposal that passed and a proposal that wants to seriously commend someone for doing nothing except make a video and happen to have quite a few subscribers


Except every clause in this proposal hinges on a tongue-and-cheek joke that making 'This Game'/NationStates difficult to access/not work properly is a good thing.

This is literally a commendation with the worlds
inconvenienced the world as a whole,

in it.

Except the original joke is far funnier than what has been proposed here

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Postby Aurum Raider » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:15 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Except the original joke is far funnier than what has been proposed here


Humour is subjective, I'm not sure what you want me to tell you.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:19 pm

Full support, this guy singlehandedly got 10,000 people to join NationStates
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Postby Aurum Raider » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:21 pm

Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Last online: 6 days ago.

How will you know the nation will even survive by the time you submit this draft?

This draft is probably staying a draft forever.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:22 pm

Aurum Raider wrote:
Sodoran Alesia wrote:Except the original joke is far funnier than what has been proposed here


Humour is subjective, I'm not sure what you want me to tell you.

What Deruuu did, even with some humor injected wasn't exactly world stopping for NS. Servers lagged for a few hours, that's it. Should we start commending the servers every time NS went down?

I'm not really understanding whether you're going for a joke here or trying to be serious, it's an odd mix. On one hand you guys pretend it's like a cataclysmic event and on the other it 's "Oh he's revolutionary, he stopped raids!" and "He got a ton of new players to join!"

Regardless, I'm not supporting, the joke is derivative and Deruuu has done nothing
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Postby Zeganas » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:23 pm

I'm not usually one who goes and supports resolutions in the World Assembly, but I've been watching Drew Durnil since 2016 and had my nation since 2011 and to see these worlds collide is really good (aside from all the lag on the site today) so consider me on board with this.
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Postby Penguinya » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:25 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:I'd post with my WA nation if it weren't for the fact that the game is so slow I can't switch nations.

We should wait until the influx passes (the 1 month CTE period) to do anything about Deruuu. I suspect that the results of the influx will merit a condemnation or just ignoring them.

No support until then.

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Aurum Raider wrote:This draft is probably staying a draft forever.

...so this is an utter waste of time then? :eyebrow:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:38 pm

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Aurum Raider wrote:This draft is probably staying a draft forever.

...so this is an utter waste of time then? :eyebrow:

This be NS matey, so yes.

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Postby Kuriko » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:51 pm

I watched his YouTube video in full finally, actually gave me a little bit of a laugh. And you're right, he probably had no idea about the server loads. Still not commend worthy though.
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Postby Yohannes » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:05 pm

Love his video! To Drew, thank you so much for promoting NationStates, the game we love!! That being said, sorry to be a party pooper, but I agree with The Noble Thatcherites.
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Postby Airengard » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:35 pm

As much as some Drew videos have amused me in the past, I have to say no. What he did was not particularly notable nor intentional. He brought in a ton of people most of which will inevitably CTE, the lag spike he caused was annoying but, as said before, purely accidental so he can't be commended for having masterminded anything in particular and if we're going to start commending the fact that someone managed to DDoS the servers, even if unintentionally, then we're really going to fall into a bad slippery slope.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:22 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:Full support, this guy singlehandedly got 10,000 people to join NationStates

Maybe 10,000 nations, but nowhere near that many people. It appears that most newbies create 10 or more puppets each, which is quite noticeable when all the person's puppets are based on rulebreaking themes. I think we got more Nazis, racists, sex themes, and poop worshipers in a single day than ever before. It's not exactly a shining achievement.

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