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[DRAFT] Condemn The World Assembly Elite

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:26 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
The Security Council,

Observing The World Assembly Elite,

Dismayed at their continued support for a voting policy of great inequity, where 0.2% of nations control half of all votes cast;

Concerned that this inequity between nations ensures that less powerful nations are completely unable to influence a given vote;

Disgusted at their openness in rigging elections against potential candidates they disagree with;

Observing that this election rigging forgoes the principles of democracy in order to silence their competitors;

Horrified at their continued use of slander, by falsely labelling nations as "fascists" or "Nazis" in order to discredit them if they dare question their oppressive regime;

Believing that these heinous actions deserve widespread recognition across the world;

Hereby condemns The World Assembly Elite.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:27 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
I'll leave this comment here regarding the legality of this proposal. It is my understanding that given the ruling on the legality of the recent "Condemn This Game", and previous rulings on symbolic proposals, as below, this proposal should meet the requirements to be deemed legal.

Symbolic resolutions - as in resolutions that are used to condemn a nation/region which represents something else, are, in some circumstances, legal. Symbolic resolutions must be written in a way that they would make sense when read as targeting the nation/region which would get the 'badge' were the resolution to pass:

Symbolic proposals should target a 'concept' that is part of NationStates in some way:

Nevertheless, given there is some doubt regarding this, out of courtesy I will wait until a final ruling has been declared before sending out any campaign telegrams for this proposal.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:29 pm
by The Yeetusa
Maybe work on the formatting?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:30 pm
by Wayneactia
Fuck...... This shit is worse than Bitely. Give it the fuck up already.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:33 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Wayneactia wrote:Fuck...... This shit is worse than Bitely. Give it the fuck up already.

You know, in some ways I actually have a decent amount of respect for Bitely. I'll take this as a compliment.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:36 pm
by The New California Republic
Wayneactia wrote:Fuck...... This shit is worse than Bitely. Give it the fuck up already.

Yeah seriously, just let it the fuck go. This is honestly just getting pathetically bad at this point.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:39 pm
by South Reinkalistan
Not to mention the fact that this objectively will not pass. Shrew knows this. Why try to condemn an elite if they supposedly control everything?

Let's not post here and give Shrew the attention he so desperately craves.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:42 pm
by Frisbeeteria
South Reinkalistan wrote: Why try to condemn an elite if they supposedly control everything?

They don't control the region he's condemning. It's almost certainly his puppet, or one of the Joco sycophants.

Even if it's legal, it's certainly not as amusing as "Condemn This Game", which was clearly intended as an April Fools joke. This one is just foolish.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:45 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Frisbeeteria wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote: Why try to condemn an elite if they supposedly control everything?

They don't control the region he's condemning. It's almost certainly his puppet, or one of the Joco sycophants.

Even if it's legal, it's certainly not as amusing as "Condemn This Game", which was clearly intended as an April Fools joke. This one is just foolish.

It's a symbolic proposal, it's not intended to be amusing. The region is indeed a puppet region of mine.

It's being proposed to draw attention to an issue that, in my very strong opinion, needs to be known throughout the world of NationStates. I'm well aware it's unlikely to pass; that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:47 pm
by The New California Republic
Frisbeeteria wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote: Why try to condemn an elite if they supposedly control everything?

They don't control the region he's condemning. It's almost certainly his puppet, or one of the Joco sycophants.

Even if it's legal, it's certainly not as amusing as "Condemn This Game", which was clearly intended as an April Fools joke. This one is just foolish.

Yeah I'd put money on a nation that was founded 4 days ago, which immediately founded a region called "The World Assembly Elite", and password protected it, as being connected to the CCD in some way.

EDIT: And it's confirmed. :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:47 pm
by Kathol Rift
The world of Nationstates knows about this issue, it was talked about all the time during the election. And guess what? The supposed “NS elite” still won. Nobody cares. You’re beating a dead horse at this point. Just let it go.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:50 pm
by The New California Republic
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:They don't control the region he's condemning. It's almost certainly his puppet, or one of the Joco sycophants.

Even if it's legal, it's certainly not as amusing as "Condemn This Game", which was clearly intended as an April Fools joke. This one is just foolish.

It's a symbolic proposal, it's not intended to be amusing. The region is indeed a puppet region of mine.

It's being proposed to draw attention to an issue that, in my very strong opinion, needs to be known throughout the world of NationStates. I'm well aware it's unlikely to pass; that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

Honestly just let it go man for fuck's sake, it's just getting ridiculous.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:25 pm
by Morover
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:They don't control the region he's condemning. It's almost certainly his puppet, or one of the Joco sycophants.

Even if it's legal, it's certainly not as amusing as "Condemn This Game", which was clearly intended as an April Fools joke. This one is just foolish.

It's a symbolic proposal, it's not intended to be amusing. The region is indeed a puppet region of mine.

It's being proposed to draw attention to an issue that, in my very strong opinion, needs to be known throughout the world of NationStates. I'm well aware it's unlikely to pass; that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

The funny thing I could definitely see a satirical version of this proposal passing, given the right circumstances.

Not that I'm saying you should try it.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:29 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Morover wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:It's a symbolic proposal, it's not intended to be amusing. The region is indeed a puppet region of mine.

It's being proposed to draw attention to an issue that, in my very strong opinion, needs to be known throughout the world of NationStates. I'm well aware it's unlikely to pass; that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

The funny thing I could definitely see a satirical version of this proposal passing, given the right circumstances.

Not that I'm saying you should try it.

I'm not petty, that would only draw attention to our cause. I'd support it.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:26 pm
by Outer Sparta
Sure go ahead and condemn a region that is password-protected and has only one member lol. Not surprised to see this being a CCD plant.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:27 pm
by The New California Republic
Outer Sparta wrote:Sure go ahead and condemn a region that is password-protected and has only one member lol. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a CCD plant.

It is:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:It's a symbolic proposal, it's not intended to be amusing. The region is indeed a puppet region of mine.

It's being proposed to draw attention to an issue that, in my very strong opinion, needs to be known throughout the world of NationStates. I'm well aware it's unlikely to pass; that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:32 pm
by Outer Sparta
The New California Republic wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Sure go ahead and condemn a region that is password-protected and has only one member lol. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a CCD plant.

It is:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:It's a symbolic proposal, it's not intended to be amusing. The region is indeed a puppet region of mine.

It's being proposed to draw attention to an issue that, in my very strong opinion, needs to be known throughout the world of NationStates. I'm well aware it's unlikely to pass; that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

Interesting premises. And pretty on character for CCD to do something like this, even if it's just a symbolic proposal.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:41 pm
by Guomindang
This is just pure foolish in continuing this non-existent crusade.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:39 pm
by MineLegotia and Equestria
Btw, if the CCD controls the WA Elite, doesn't that make the CCD part of the WA Elite? And thereof part of the problem?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:41 pm
by South Reinkalistan
South Reinkalistan wrote:Let's not post here and give Shrew the attention he so desperately craves.

Please.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:56 pm
by The Gilded Star
MineLegotia and Equestria wrote:Btw, if the CCD controls the WA Elite, doesn't that make the CCD part of the WA Elite? And thereof part of the problem?


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Source: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1142052

(Yeah it's taken out of context but it's still amusing to poke fun at it.)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:39 pm
by Ransium
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'll leave this comment here regarding the legality of this proposal. It is my understanding that given the ruling on the legality of the recent "Condemn This Game", and previous rulings on symbolic proposals, as below, this proposal should meet the requirements to be deemed legal.

Symbolic resolutions - as in resolutions that are used to condemn a nation/region which represents something else, are, in some circumstances, legal. Symbolic resolutions must be written in a way that they would make sense when read as targeting the nation/region which would get the 'badge' were the resolution to pass:

Symbolic proposals should target a 'concept' that is part of NationStates in some way:

Nevertheless, given there is some doubt regarding this, out of courtesy I will wait until a final ruling has been declared before sending out any campaign telegrams for this proposal.


The SC mods are discussing the legality, it may take some time to render a decision.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:29 pm
by The Stalker
Do you really think there is some shadowy leadership of so called WA elite who manipulate world events?

Or maybe just maybe it's far more likely the majority of the people just don't like fascism?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:02 pm
by Tinfect
This is a joke. I'm already condemned; condemning me twice won't give me any other badges. Thank you for the thought, though.

Re: Condemn The World Assembly Elite

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:11 pm
by Yohannes
Tinfect wrote:This is a joke. I'm already condemned; condemning me twice won't give me any other badges. Thank you for the thought, though.


Tinfect, shall we telegram Gorundu? I hear that the Breaker of Chains is trying to save the World Assembly Elite